2002/2003 FC Barcelona Official Transfers and Transfer Rumours Thread

[Maarten]

kick out Rochemback, because in my eyes he is just so unproven as Geovanni. Maybe he can also join Benfica on loan????

:D

now we know which players are leaving, which ones are coming????
So damn curious. :)

C YA

Greetzz Maarten

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No light years btw, a few years as in 36 months or as in 432 weeks or as in 3024 days or as in 72576 hours or as in 4354560 seconds.
Sounds good doesn't it??

Ciao

:D :D :D

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA

Speaking of Geo, i'm just waiting on Barca's official website for the announcement. The deal sounds done and dusted. 500,000 euros for the loan deal is nice, but we're still paying 35% of his wages. I don't get the reasoning behind that.

Isn`t he going on loan too Bernfica, a struggling side financially?
Not everybody can affort those wages Barca pays, it is not that unusual that the team that owns the player pays a part of the salary in a loan deal. Perhaps because Barca is also benefitting from this loan deal, since Geo gets experience and tv coverage which could make it easier too either sell him or taking him back for Barca.

[Maarten]

nice said

:D

I hope he comes back as a more complete player. He has the skills, now let's lay back and enjoy the ride. See ya Geo!


greetzz Maarten


:) :D :)

[The Rule]

So basically Benfica are giving Barca money for Geovanni which Barca are in turn going to give to Geovanni???

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by The Rule
So basically Benfica are giving Barca money for Geovanni which Barca are in turn going to give to Geovanni???

They are both giving it too Geo, 35% of his salary by Barca, the rest by Benfica. :)

[The Rule]

you didn't get my point,Benfica are giving Barca money as a fee and then Barca are left paying part of his wages,why not just have Benfica pay £250,000 and pay all the wages?

[Maarten]

the deal is probably to both sides. Barcelona has financial troubles and I'm certain they did the best thing possible for the club.
(I hope so anyway)

greetzz Maarten

barça rules 4éva

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[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by The Rule
you didn't get my point,Benfica are giving Barca money as a fee and then Barca are left paying part of his wages,why not just have Benfica pay £250,000 and pay all the wages?

I still don`t get your point, too be honest.

I don`t understand what you mean with the "250,000 and pay all the wages"?

The 500000 Azulgrana talked about, isn`t some sort of transfer fee right? He is just going on loan?

Please explain, I`m no financial expert.

[The Rule]

it's is a transfer fee of sorts,it's like a lease,you pay upfront and have the property for a period of time.

In this case,Benfica are paying Barcelona £500,000 to take Geovanni for 6 months,when the 6 months is up they give him back.but Barcelona get to keep the money.

Now Barcalona are going to pay 35% of Geovanni's wages,and Benfica will pay the rest.so basically,Benfica are giving Barcelona a sum of money,out of which Barcelona are going to have to pay a portion of Geovanni's wages for the next six months while not having him at the club.

i think it would be better if Benfica gave Barcelona a smaller amount and paid all of Geovanni's wages rather than have it this way.it would just be easier and less complicated,then again given that Benfica have a reputation for not paying players wages maybe Geovanni requested it this way to ensure that if Benfica start to prick about and not pay his wages then he will still have income from Barca

[soccer fanatic]

Thanks for explaining.

[gnlvagosov]

Originally posted by The Rule
it's is a transfer fee of sorts,it's like a lease,you pay upfront and have the property for a period of time.

In this case,Benfica are paying Barcelona £500,000 to take Geovanni for 6 months,when the 6 months is up they give him back.but Barcelona get to keep the money.

Now Barcalona are going to pay 35% of Geovanni's wages,and Benfica will pay the rest.so basically,Benfica are giving Barcelona a sum of money,out of which Barcelona are going to have to pay a portion of Geovanni's wages for the next six months while not having him at the club.

i think it would be better if Benfica gave Barcelona a smaller amount and paid all of Geovanni's wages rather than have it this way.it would just be easier and less complicated,then again given that Benfica have a reputation for not paying players wages maybe Geovanni requested it this way to ensure that if Benfica start to prick about and not pay his wages then he will still have income from Barca

makes no sense to me...your saying Benfica should pay £250,000 to Barca and pay all of Geovanni's wages. Now why would Barca want to do that while they can get £500,000 and only pay 35% of his wages. It's not like Geovanni is Del Piero or something... how much is his wage? I don't think that much. Barca made the right decision.:)

[The Rule]

he's on about €20000 a week i'd say,which is €1,000,000 a year,so over six months its €500,000, so say 35%is 175,000, then Barca are left with €325,000.,they should have got €350,000 and let Benfica pay the wages

[gnlvagosov]

it's nearly the same thing...

[Maarten]

Now this is settled, now start buying players!!

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Greetzz Maarten






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[The Rule]

Originally posted by gnlvagosov
it's nearly the same thing...

oh i know that,but it's complicated when it should have been a simple deal,typical Gasport shite

[The Rule]

Originally posted by gnlvagosov
makes no sense to me...your saying Benfica should pay £250,000 to Barca and pay all of Geovanni's wages. Now why would Barca want to do that while they can get £500,000 and only pay 35% of his wages. It's not like Geovanni is Del Piero or something... how much is his wage? I don't think that much. Barca made the right decision.:)

nothing with logic ever does make sense to you

[gnlvagosov]

Originally posted by The Rule
nothing with logic ever does make sense to you

shut up you monkey lover!;)

[Juan]

Originally posted by gnlvagosov
makes no sense to me...your saying Benfica should pay £250,000 to Barca and pay all of Geovanni's wages. Now why would Barca want to do that while they can get £500,000 and only pay 35% of his wages. It's not like Geovanni is Del Piero or something... how much is his wage? I don't think that much. Barca made the right decision.:)

But, why would Benfica want to do what you say?

[gnlvagosov]

because that's the deal.

[The Rule]

YES IT'S A BAD DEAL,BUT LET'S NOT FIRGET WE ARE DEALING WITH GASPORT HERE

[gnlvagosov]

Barcelona are apparently ahead in the queue to sign Lazio's Juan Pablo Sorin.

His agent Gustavo Mascardi reportedly held talks with the Catalans yesterday to discuss the move

If Lazio can off-load the Argentine, this will enable them to sign another player, possibly AS Roma's Pep Guardiola.

Benfica and Leeds have also been linked with Sorin.

[The Rule]

what a pity none of those three clubs have any money

[BLAUGRANA]

Chelsea have named their JFH price. 12 million euros. I just lost all interest. :D

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Chelsea have named their JFH price. 12 million euros. I just lost all interest. :D

Indeed, that is way too much for JFH.

[barça]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Chelsea have named their JFH price. 12 million euros. I just lost all interest. :D

You and everybody else!

[nerazzuri]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Chelsea have named their JFH price. 12 million euros. I just lost all interest. :D
i throught u guys were lookin for a defender

[Juan]

Barça have just reached an agreement with Tenerife for the transfer of David Bermudo to the Azulgranas. The player has reported to be excited for the interest Van Gaal showed on him, although he´ll most likely play for the B team.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by nerazzuri
i throught u guys were lookin for a defender

We're lookin' for both.

[FCBBarcaAjax]

It seems Barca is only selling. I we heard how you have selled 3, or 4 players, but noone was bought?

[nerazzuri]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
We're lookin' for both.
why do u need another stricker, ur attack is fine
but what about ur goalie? i've seen him done more stuff ups than sperm-man

[hollowi]

True. I'd go for two defenders rather than st+def. A keeper isn't essential but a good signing would be nice. Though keepers at this level cost a lot.

[nerazzuri]

what about ur youth squad

[barça]

Originally posted by nerazzuri
what about ur youth squad

Victor Valdes is a good young keeper but is being "punished" by Van Gaal for refusing to be demoted.

Bareclona bought Enke in the summer but his performance in Copa del Rey against Novelda was so bad (he alone was the reason Barcelona is out of the competition), he will only play if Bonano gets hurt and Valdes is still being punished.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by nerazzuri
why do u need another stricker, ur attack is fine
but what about ur goalie? i've seen him done more stuff ups than sperm-man

Why do we need another striker? Because the strikers we have need 10 chances before they convert one. That's why.

We don't need a keeper. We need defenders.

[Maarten]

Another keeper is not necessary, a couple of defenders is. By the way , who was in the defense this weekend? They did not conceed a goal in two matches. That's good isn't it?
Another striker may be usefull. But I don't know if we're going to get one. But we'll see

:)

barça 4éva

greetzz Maarten
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[relejado]

what about babbel from liverpool, not as a strikt defender but as a defensive midfielder with experience. he has some problems with houllier in liverpool, so i guess, they wouldn't be tooooo uninterested to sell him.

[Maarten]

Liverpool ain't performing that well at this time. And he's always on the bench.
By the way, how old is he?

Look for someone good , young, possibly experience with Spanish football?

Babbel is a great player, but I think he's over the hill.

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[relejado]

agreed, he's not the youngest anymore, but he's experienced. lucho isn't young anymore, but he's the best:evil: !!

[Maarten]

Lucho ain't over the hill. We need some defenders who we can use on a long term. Or else we will have the same problem within one/ two years.

[nerazzuri]

how about gudjohnsen

[Maarten]

which one?
the one from Chelsea?

[nerazzuri]

yeah, he's good at finishing

[10]

All this talk about JIMMY HASSELBANK is nothing more than another Van G al blunder, he's 30,has little ball skill,slow and all he can do is kick a ball hard so whats the point??????He's a downgrade of Kluviert who can't even score now so why buy him????
Damn why is Gaspart got to show everyone that he's the village idiot!
What we need is a calibre player like Tristan who is spanish and the best big foward out there!!!Also Saviola is great but being benched why????
Van Gal is a faccist and racist who has an obvious bias aganist any one of colour (who isn't dutch) or brazalian!!!!!!!!!!!With no right sided players why was Geovianni loaned????Why is Rommeback not playing regularly even though he is now tougher,faster and reads plays better than both Cocou and Xavi???WHY WAS D'ALLESSANDRO NOT BROUGHT IN??
This man is a racist faccist who only seeks dutch players no matter how bad thier calibre to place in the squad!!!!!!!!!
who can possibly say Tristan isn't better than a never was like JFH????????
Barca right now has alot of dutch players that are useless like debor,cocou,kluviert so why not get rid of them and start a new reveloution now instead of going back dutch????
12M FOR jfh SO WHY NOT SPEND THAT SAME MONEY ON MARQUEZ OR D'ALLESSANDRO WHO WOULD RELISH THE CLUB INSTEADT OF A USELESS NEVER WAS,WILL BE??????
BUY defenders,3,place Rommeback and Xavi in Midfield,buy 2 wingers,play riquelme in the whole with Saviola and tristan up front!!!!!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------PS-IS THERE ANY 1 AMONGST YOU THAT CAN POSSIBLY SAY THAT YOUR'E HAPPY WITH OUR MEDIORCE TEAM PERFORMANCES??????
DON'T PAMPER THE TRUTH...............WE WILL WIN NOTHING WITH VG AND WOULD BE LUCKY TO PLACE 13!

[FC Barca11]

There is no way in hell Chelsea would let him go. Plus the banks have underwritten the payments of Chelsea to Barcelona on the Manu and Zenden deals. As a consequence the debt can't be used as part of any deal. In another words, we have no negotiating power over Chelsea. Check out the article at www.planetfootball.com. They also suggest if we lose interest in JFH, we're going after portuguese striker Pauleta. He's doin really well for Bordeaux and could be a good option instead of JFH. Also i hope Gaspart signs Marquez. He is fantastic and extrememly solid at the back.

[FC Barca11]

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------PS-IS THERE ANY 1 AMONGST YOU THAT CAN POSSIBLY SAY THAT YOUR'E HAPPY WITH OUR MEDIORCE TEAM PERFORMANCES??????
DON'T PAMPER THE TRUTH...............WE WILL WIN NOTHING WITH VG AND WOULD BE LUCKY TO PLACE 13! [/B][/QUOTE]


I think we've already reached a general consensus about that one....There really is no point in crying about how bad the team is but rather find out applicable solutions. You always seem to want to buy more and more players but I think you need to be realistic here. We DON'T HAVE ANY FUNDS. Unless you figure that out your solutions of buying player after player is not really going to help. We can't sell any players either because a lot of the clubs are cash-strapped. If you think we're going to get nearly as much as what we paid for Cocu, De Boer and Kluivert, you must be crazy. Agreed that they are all old, but we can't let them go fo free. How do you plan on generating $$$. Clubs aren't willing to pay except for loan deals . Also a lot of us would have preferred Bianchi to Van Gaal but we really dont have a say in who stays unless you're a director.....

[Juan]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by FC Barca11
[B]If you

[Juan]

Originally posted by FC Barca11
If you think we're going to get nearly as much as what we paid for Cocu, De Boer and Kluivert, you must be crazy.

Well, you got Cocu on a free.

[FC Barca11]

Originally posted by Juan
Well, you got Cocu on a free.

Oh yea..my mistake. Guess he worked out to be one of our best investments.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by FC Barca11
If you think we're going to get nearly as much as what we paid for Cocu, De Boer and Kluivert, you must be crazy.

We'd get what we paid for Kluivert.

[Maarten]

tired of it. People always saying that the barcelona squad isn't good enough. I think that is bullshit. Basicly, they have enough talent to end in the top four in spain. We're doing great in european matches. Why?
Because in europe we play with confidence.
En there is another reason. Barcelona is playing the same way as 100 years ago. Barcelona style they call it. Well in Spain everybody knows this style very much. In spain we have a competition where everybody can win from everybody.

Saying that VG is a racist and a fascist is also nonsense.
A racist, while he uses black players when white ones are available?
It's also nonsense that VG only wants dutch players. He wanted two players very badly if he was coming to barcelona again. Mendieta and Schneider. He only got Mendieta. (I don't think he is a dutch men do you?)
A fascist? Do you even know the meaning of that word?????
Look it up.

VG is a great trainer, but he has to start all over and it ain't that simple. Right now we have difficulties at the back because we have lots of injuries.
the only reason why I should buy new defenders is for situations like this. Lack of defenders. A few of the players is maybe not on its place at barcelona and they should be replaced.

What the guy said about Kluivert, Cocu and De boer is also wrong.
Cocu was free. (and he will go on a free base too)
Kluivert has paid back his money on its performances. And so did De boer.
Reiziger is a player I do not like. AND I HAVE HEARD HIS TRANSFER TO MANCHESTER CITY WAS CANCELLED.

But I do think that VG has a point when he starts his lineup with a lot of Dutchmen. Why?

Because when things go wrong, everybody is sking him to leave and stand down. The dutch players he knows very much, he knows PERFECTLY in what they are capable off. Another dutch player would be in that way a good thing. But I think when VG leaves we have a problem because the new trainer will not know how to handle them. That's why we have to stop buying dutchmen (doesn't mean start selling!)

I've always sais that Tristan would be a good deal, but I also think Pauleta can be good. He has already played in Spain, that's a good reference.

BTW i think we should loan Rochemback to another team. He's good, but to me he hasn't proven his value to Barcelona.

But try catching Marquez (really good)
and TRISTAN or PAULETA. But this reinforcements doesn't necessary mean improvement. It means letting the fans think its going to be better. Not the players have to improve, its all in the head.
LETS START SUPPORTING THE PLAYERS AND TRAINER WE HAVE AND EVERYTHING WILL WORK OUT JUST FINE!!!!!

greetzz Maarten (sorry for this long reply)


barça 4éva :D

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[The Rule]

You got De Boer on a free as well didn't you?and you got Kluivert for a lot less than he is worth today.

Reiziger says that if Man City can come up with the money to buy him he'll go but he has no interest in up-rooting his family to go live in a manchester hotel for 6 months on a loan move.can't blame the guy really.i hope city get the money for him.he'd be ovre-priced but still a good player for them.

[The Rule]

Originally posted by FC Barca11
There is no way in hell Chelsea would let him go. Plus the banks have underwritten the payments of Chelsea to Barcelona on the Manu and Zenden deals. As a consequence the debt can't be used as part of any deal. In another words, we have no negotiating power over Chelsea. Check out the article at www.planetfootball.com. They also suggest if we lose interest in JFH, we're going after portuguese striker Pauleta. He's doin really well for Bordeaux and could be a good option instead of JFH. Also i hope Gaspart signs Marquez. He is fantastic and extrememly solid at the back.

it is very possible that JFH could go to Barcelona. Chelsea have said that they would consider bids of around £10-£12million for him

[The Rule]

Originally posted by 10
All this talk about JIMMY HASSELBANK is nothing more than another Van G al blunder, he's 30,has little ball skill,slow and all he can do is kick a ball hard so whats the point??????He's a downgrade of Kluviert who can't even score now so why buy him????
Damn why is Gaspart got to show everyone that he's the village idiot!
What we need is a calibre player like Tristan who is spanish and the best big foward out there!!!Also Saviola is great but being benched why????
Van Gal is a faccist and racist who has an obvious bias aganist any one of colour (who isn't dutch) or brazalian!!!!!!!!!!!With no right sided players why was Geovianni loaned????Why is Rommeback not playing regularly even though he is now tougher,faster and reads plays better than both Cocou and Xavi???WHY WAS D'ALLESSANDRO NOT BROUGHT IN??
This man is a racist faccist who only seeks dutch players no matter how bad thier calibre to place in the squad!!!!!!!!!
who can possibly say Tristan isn't better than a never was like JFH????????
Barca right now has alot of dutch players that are useless like debor,cocou,kluviert so why not get rid of them and start a new reveloution now instead of going back dutch????
12M FOR jfh SO WHY NOT SPEND THAT SAME MONEY ON MARQUEZ OR D'ALLESSANDRO WHO WOULD RELISH THE CLUB INSTEADT OF A USELESS NEVER WAS,WILL BE??????
BUY defenders,3,place Rommeback and Xavi in Midfield,buy 2 wingers,play riquelme in the whole with Saviola and tristan up front!!!!!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------PS-IS THERE ANY 1 AMONGST YOU THAT CAN POSSIBLY SAY THAT YOUR'E HAPPY WITH OUR MEDIORCE TEAM PERFORMANCES??????
DON'T PAMPER THE TRUTH...............WE WILL WIN NOTHING WITH VG AND WOULD BE LUCKY TO PLACE 13!

here we have an example of a man who hasn't yet realised that unless you have money,which Barce don't, you can't buy anyone.and 10,you say "buy defenders,3".does that mean you want to buy 3 defenders???and what exactly do you plan to do with Puyol,and you don't have Luis Enrique in your team either.not a very well thought out post,just pointless ramblings

[Maarten]

Exactly my point of view alll ramblings

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[The Rule]

Originally posted by Maarten
Exactly my point of view alll ramblings

:D
:D
:D

seems to me that's all he ever does

[Maarten]

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[10]

Ramblings of a mad man ,yes ,indeed cause every genius needs a little madness to prove a conventional method!
VG is a faccist!
I don't know how to promote money other than selling Kluviert,barcA CARDS

[miro]

Is it true that kluivert going to Man Unt. by mid of next month, and how much would they pay to buy him?

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by miro
Is it true that kluivert going to Man Unt. by mid of next month, and how much would they pay to buy him?

Any deal would have to be done by the end of this month as that's when the transfer window closes.

[nerazzuri]

manU already has enough strikers

[gnlvagosov]

and they don't need any

[Juan]

Originally posted by nerazzuri
manU already has enough strikers

No they don´t

[Maarten]

very well known that ManU has problems of making a goal. A few weeks ago they played with Scholes as a forward because Van Nistelrooij and Solskjaer could not score. Forlan was not giving wath they expected. And Kluivert and RV go well together so why not. But I think its nonsense. But ManU can use another striker.

barça 4éva

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[soccer fanatic]

I think it could be true that Man U are after Kluivert.
They need another styriker and it is more or less clear that Kluivert wants too play in the EPL.

Like you said Maarten, it is also clear that RVN and Kluivert are great in combination. Did you know they were born borth on exactly the same day and year?

[Maarten]

I knew that!!


:D

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by nerazzuri
manU already has enough strikers

No, they don't. They could use another striker considering the # of games they play a season.

Originally posted by soccer fanatic
I think it could be true that Man U are after Kluivert.

It could definately be true. Just dont' forget what happened the last time they went for him though. I'm sure Fergie hasn't, and he seems a hell of a lot tougher than LVG. Here's an excerpt from Fergie's autobiography:

"So when Patrick Kluivert, the gifted young Dutch centre forward, was so unimpressed by our approaches in 1998 that he wouldn't even do us the courtesy of talking to us, I had no trouble believing that he was likely to be a bigger loser than we were,"

Originally posted by Maarten
very well known that ManU has problems of making a goal. A few weeks ago they played with Scholes as a forward because Van Nistelrooij and Solskjaer could not score. Forlan was not giving wath they expected.

I dont' think United have any problems scoring. They have enough firepower right now, but another striker wouldn't hurt.

[BLAUGRANA]

From what I've heard, we've missed out on him thus far. We've bid 6 million pounds, but there's still 1.9 million pounds difference between what we're willing to pay and what Chelsea want. He would be cup tied if we got him, so no CL football for him. I think at 6 million pounds he's a bit expensive. I'd go for someone else or try and get that price lower.

[BLAUGRANA]

According to his agent, we're monitoring his situation.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Here's an excerpt from Fergie's autobiography:
"So when Patrick Kluivert, the gifted young Dutch centre forward, was so unimpressed by our approaches in 1998 that he wouldn't even do us the courtesy of talking to us, I had no trouble believing that he was likely to be a bigger loser than we were,"


I don`t like Ferguson at all. He has troubles with his ego.
How dare he try too sneer at Patrick. :mad:

I`m sure Kluivert was devestated reading this though. :rolleyes:

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic


I`m sure Kluivert was devestated reading this though. :rolleyes:

Exactly. I doubt he was. He just came out today (or was it yesterday) saying that he still wants to play in Spain and for Barca.

[BLAUGRANA]

LVG is reported pissed of with Barca's general director Farguell over the JFH transfer. LVG wants the deal done while Farguell wants to try and lower the price a bit. Chelsea's fee is reportedly already lower. Also, JFH has agreed a wage cut and to sign a two year deal as opposed to a one year deal.

I say Farguell is doing the right thing. Get the price lower. They need to sell.

[Olesen10]

Well I don't know. Sure it'd be great to lower the price, but we shouldn't make him unhappy about the deal...It might "scare" him...:)

[funky6]

I say Farguell is doing the right thing. Get the price lower. They need to sell.

lol!!!Sounds like a quote from the "Godfather".:D

I agree though.

[Juan]

So, is Barça about to make an offer Hasselbaink can´t refuse?

[barça]

it seems to be getting closer and closer, JFH in Barcelona that is.

[nerazzuri]

lets just hope it didn't end up like solari's situation:angel:

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by Juan
So, is Barça about to make an offer Hasselbaink can´t refuse?

I heard we are putting 6 millon pounds on the table for JFH

[Azerkid]

It is alo rumored that we will make an offer to Sunderland GK Jurgen Macho, he'll be out of contract after this season.

I seen this guy play and he's really good and also young, I think we should get him before he gets other offers.

[Juan]

Dunno, he is quite unproven, and has only started to get playing time this season. But if Barça continues its recent keeper policy then he may fit ;)

[soccer fanatic]

Exactly, if we would buy another keeper, lets make sure this is one we can use. Cudicini for instance, but no doubts. I have seen Macho a couple of times and he seemed to be a great goalie, but lets be sure now, don`t take purchasing risks anymore.

I will see Macho tomorrow again BTW. :)

[nerazzuri]

did u guys see the game manU vs sunderland?

cos macho did some ***ken good saves:thumbsup:

[The Rule]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic
Exactly, if we would buy another keeper, lets make sure this is one we can use. Cudicini for instance, but no doubts. I have seen Macho a couple of times and he seemed to be a great goalie, but lets be sure now, don`t take purchasing risks anymore.

I will see Macho tomorrow again BTW. :)

how will you see Macho??he's fourth choice now at sunderland.he's not very good either.he's poor on crosses and doesn't command his defense,he's a decent shot-stopper but IMO, Bonano and Valdes are far better than him.

Cudicini would be a good buy for Barce,but hasn't Gasport said that he won't be buying anyone else til the summer,what about jfh?

[rshepherd1000]

macho has performed very well this season against arsenal, liverpool and manu however, like david james, he is a fanatstic shot stopper but suspect in other areas

sunderland have four keeprs now having just signed poom from derby for 3mill so its a safe bet one, if not two, will be on their way out. why not try and get sorensen? hes the better of the four and a proven international keeper as well.

my ultimate choice is still frey though if the price was right.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by The Rule
he's fourth choice now at sunderland.he's not very good either.

I saw him play some matches, he wasn`t bad. But indeed not good enough either.


Cudicini would be a good buy for Barce,but hasn't Gasport said that he won't be buying anyone else til the summer,what about jfh?

I know same as you, according too that Barca won`t buy, perhaps it is a trick too put pressure on Chelsea too lower their price.

I don`t think so though.

[barça]

Originally posted by The Rule
but hasn't Gasport said that he won't be buying anyone else til the summer,what about jfh?

Gaspart and Van Maal, both said that no more until the summer.

[funky6]

First we have to pay the laundryman.

[yks_barca]

I smell something here ....




But before i eat it , we have to lose against Celta !!


we'll lose anywayz ... away from home !!



But that means that Van Gaal is out ...












Alberto Zaccheroni :D ?

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by yks_barca


Alberto Zaccheroni :D ?

No thanks!

[Maarten]

Is JFH really coming to barca? damn. WHY???????
I don't want hi. See if they buy him and they lose a couple of matches and Van Gaal is fired. He won't be used anymore. Just because he's dutch. You don't have to believe me but it's true.

greetzz Maarten

[BLAUGRANA]

We're rumoured to be in the hunt for Sorin.

[J R R]

Barca should definatly get Sorin if they can

[rshepherd1000]

could be a useful addition

BUT CAN WE PLEASE GET SOME CENTRAL DEFENDERS :annoyed: :mad:

[Juan]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
We're rumoured to be in the hunt for Sorin.

Heh, I´ve insisted on Sorin for Barça for a long time now, as you probably know.

[funky6]

We're rumoured to give Gaspart to Inter on free loan with an option to buy.That's what i call a good deal.

Sorin is a great fighter but he's not a central defender so i don't care.Besides all these are in order to show that Barça can still get good players.There's no chance we buy anybody.

[J R R]

Originally posted by funky6
We're rumoured to give Gaspart to Inter on free loan with an option to buy.That's what i call a good deal.

wish we could get rid of gaspart i bet we couldnt even pay
someone to take him away:D

[nerazzuri]

do u guys want to complete the deal on mendieta?

[barça]

Originally posted by nerazzuri
do u guys want to complete the deal on mendieta?

As of today, NO. It remains to be seen how he plays under a new coach, but its hard to see me changing my mind.

[rshepherd1000]

Originally posted by nerazzuri
do u guys want to complete the deal on mendieta?

depends on the fee

[funky6]

I agree.NONONO

[barça]

Originally posted by rshepherd1000
depends on the fee

I am pretty sure the fee is 12M

[rshepherd1000]

Originally posted by barça
I am pretty sure the fee is 12M

then NO!

[barça]

There was a big article yesterday in an Italian paper saying that if Sorin is free by the end of the month, he will end up in Barcelona.

Tranfers rumors are the worst pieces of journalism there is. These reporters lie more than politicians.

[funky6]

MD said the same thing about the 31st of January.I feel such an idiot when i speak abt these rumours(which i do almost all the time)

[barça]

Originally posted by funky6
MD said the same thing about the 31st of January.I feel such an idiot when i speak abt these rumours(which i do almost all the time)

:) :D :)

[soccer fanatic]

I heard a rumour concerning interest from Barcelona in Rosicky.

Won`t happen, but it qualifies as a rumour and this is the rumours thread.

[funky6]

Are you trying to impress us with all those cups?:silly:

[rshepherd1000]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic
I heard a rumour concerning interest from Barcelona in Rosicky.

Won`t happen, but it qualifies as a rumour and this is the rumours thread.

i so wish this was true

[funky6]

This Rosicky thing is quite "old".Nice midfielder and young but i'd pick Sorin over him at any time(stupid comparison but no money)

The funny is that every player who is somehow linked with Barça says(not Trezeguet though)"Ohh..It would be such a great honour.Barcelona are such a huge club,who wouldn't like to play for them?"

Well,come for free then:D

[Juan]

Originally posted by rshepherd1000
i so wish this was true

Why? You still have Riquelme (even though VG thinks otherwise), and Iniesta.

[rshepherd1000]

rosicky is better than both, although if JRR played this may be proved otherwise

ultimately we dont really need him as JRR and iniesta are more than enough, but hes one of my favourite players so for no other reason id love him at barca

wont happen though

[Maarten]

again? :)

when VG gets fired in the next couple of days and a ne w trainer is coming. This guy has only a few days left to buy new players. And we still don't have any central backs. :s

BTW how was your weekend guys?

:d


Greetzz Maarten

[Maarten]

Maccarone: "The coach counts on Nemeth and Boksic. He says that I have to find myself again, but at the moment I'm on the bench. If this thing could become the rule I would have to leave.
"On Inter and Juve, I have read and received a lot of telephone calls, it's difficult to say what I would choose but I have already made a choice. And there is also Barcelona."

:)

[Maarten]

heard that we are in the hunt for Ziege. is this correct?

http://www.fussball-forum.de/viewtopic.php?t=1143

[Juan]

Forget about new signings. All efforts will be focused on finding a new manager.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by nerazzuri
do u guys want to complete the deal on mendieta?

No. The price tag is the biggest deterrent. His form is too though. I think it's partially do to his being played a bit out of position, but he still isn't impressing. Started well, but now he's fizzled out.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
No. The price tag is the biggest deterrent. His form is too though. I think it's partially do to his being played a bit out of position, but he still isn't impressing. Started well, but now he's fizzled out.

I agree.

Barca isn`t able too spend big so they have too do some serious target spending, I think best would be ofcourse a high quality defender, an agressive midfielder and a high scoring striker.
Defender and attacker ofcourse are priority.

[lili]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic
I agree.

Barca isn`t able too spend big so they have too do some serious target spending, I think best would be ofcourse a high quality defender, an agressive midfielder and a high scoring striker.
Defender and attacker ofcourse are priority.

That's it.
We'll help you out sending Hierro, Helguera and Ronaldo over. :evil: :D :D :D

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by lili
That's it.
We'll help you out sending Hierro, Helguera and Ronaldo over. :evil: :D :D :D

You would do everything too get rid of those losers, wouldn`t you? :D:D:D

No thanks, we suck enough as it is.

[funky6]

I 'd like to see Salgado included in the package too:silly:

[Juan]

So now you want Salgado... how about a Puyol-Salgado swap? You´ll get a favorable reply from Madridistas :silly:

[lili]

Originally posted by Juan
So now you want Salgado... how about a Puyol-Salgado swap? You´ll get a favorable reply from Madridistas :silly:

Juan, don't be that selfish. You can't lead away the only quality they still have. :smoking: :D ;)

[funky6]

Originally posted by lili
Juan, don't be that selfish. You can't lead away the only quality they still have.:smoking::D;)

Nah, ofcourse these are bad times for Barça but still some quality lili.Argies,Iniesta,Overmars,Lucho(if he's back).Much less than Madrid but still some.I hope the new coach manages to do something LVG couldn't.Inspire them.:)

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by lili
You can't lead away the only quality they still have. :smoking: :D ;)

The highest quality player Madrid has is only proving himself of the pitch. :smoking:

Besides, Barca has more quality than Puyol.
I heard that the NouCamp serves the best cup of coffee. :D:D

[funky6]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic
Besides, Barca has more quality than Puyol.
I heard that the NouCamp serves the best cup of coffee.:D:D


Originally posted by soccer fanatic
And I am determined, cause I am a Barca fan, no matter what you all might think.

Something's not fitting,uh?:mad::D

[lili]

Originally posted by funky6
Nah, ofcourse these are bad times for Barça but still some quality lili.Argies,Iniesta,Overmars,Lucho(if he's back).Much less than Madrid but still some.I hope the new coach manages to do something LVG couldn't.Inspire them.:)

I know funky6. And I hope for you all, you'll have better times.
:) ;)

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by funky6
Something's not fitting,uh?:mad::D

It is called irony. (I think)

Besides, having good coffee is important right? :)
Keeps fans warm and awake too shoutnasty things and wave hankeys too Van Gaal. D:D:D

The ability too laugh about yourself is what dragged Ajax true a difficult time. :)

That is the one of Barca`s problems, the enormous amount of pressure and negativity. You have too feel relaxed now and again too get results. You can`t do right, if you win a few matches the press is writing: "Ahh hell won`t last long anyway."

So I gave the right example, now you can all follow in my footsteps. :smoking:

[lili]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic
I heard that the NouCamp serves the best cup of coffee. :D:D [/B]

Me, too. Therefore I will invite you on an extra cup there.:angel: ;)

[funky6]

I should have writen JOKE JOKE JOKE.

I know abt irony,believe me,i make fun of myself many times,it's a cool weapon:o

[soccer fanatic]

Ok Funky. :)

[barça]

Originally posted by lili
That's it.
We'll help you out sending Hierro, Helguera and Ronaldo over. :evil: :D :D :D
Lili, you can keep all of them, specially Helguera. You named the top three players that I think might be the worst in your team.

[Maarten]

is going to be the new trainer? And which players does he like to buy? And more important. How many days does he have left to buy them?

greetzz Maarten


:D

[Maarten]

something i like to know :D

[funky6]

The new coach is x Barça coach Charles Rexack.I don't think there's a posibility we sign any player except from Sorin(doubtful too) till the end of January:)

[BLAUGRANA]

I read today that Gaspart is trying to bring Sorin in this week before the deadline. I'm not convinced about Sorin.

[BLAUGRANA]

Robinho says he wants to play for Barca in a few years. I still don't know much about this kid.

[lili]

Originally posted by barça
Lili, you can keep all of them, specially Helguera. You named the top three players that I think might be the worst in your team.

Of course I did, Barca. And not by accident.:cool: ;)

[davor]

Hi guys, I'm new around here although I think Bier could remember me from Xtratime (dado).

Anyway, Croatian attacker Ivica Olic (famous mostly for his winning goal against Italy in Japan/Korea) was offered to Barça. The player isn't expensive, lacks technique but makes up in running, pace, determination, and above all heart. If he comes I think even Puyol would congratulate him for his heart and efforts. Olic currently plays for Dinamo Zagreb and is one of top 3 Croatian players at the moment (the other 2 being Tudor and Simic).

I've seen this guy making sliding tackles in defense and then scoring 15 seconds later. If we want an attacker and can't get Van Nistelrooy or Henry then this is the guy we want - to "Pump up the voluume"!

See you...

[funky6]

Welcome a board:)

Haven't heard of Olic rumours(or about Olic himself)but i remember his great goal against Italy(what a game..).I guess you know better since you 've already seen him,but i doubt Barça are able to buy someone,even a cheap player.

Sounds like a better version of Dani.

[lili]

Just to add to Davor: Olic is the guy who outplayed the italian defence on the match Italy:Croatia(WC202) and shot a tricky goal.;)

[lili]

wellcome, Davor.;)

[davor]

Thanks guys, and Lili, I've just realized that you're from Slovenia. Hi neighbour.

Olic is far better than Dani. Something between Overmars, Shevchenko and Saviola. Pretty strong, but as I've said, lacks the technique.

Still I hope we get Sorin, or any other defender and a descent goalie. Too bad, I've heard that Arsenal bought Brazilian keeper Marcos. He'd be great for Barça.

[rshepherd1000]

arsenal have decided against signing marcos this season (much to my relief)

[barça]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Robinho says he wants to play for Barca in a few years. I still don't know much about this kid.

You will know him.

I was just in Brazil and the kid was in the newspapers and television every day.

I saw some of the highlights from the last Brazilian championships and the kid is amazing.

Still very young, but he will make it to Europe soon.

[Olesen10]

What position does he play? Centre forward, mid field....? A new Romario perhaps? :)

[relejado]

Originally posted by davor

Too bad, I've heard that Arsenal bought Brazilian keeper Marcos. He'd be great for Barça.

you're not serious about getting marcos, right ? marcos is IMO not a better option then bonano, not at all...rather put kluivert between the sticks.:D :D (he's great in ruining big chances...)

WELCOME...by the way

[funky6]

Cristina Cubero / BARCELONA

29/01/03 03:00 h.Gabriel Milito tiene las maletas preparadas. El central de Independiente de Avellaneda, campeón del mundo Sub 20 con Argentina, vendría cedido hasta final de temporada con opción a compra, por lo que la operación resultaría del todo ventajosa para el FC Barcelona, ya que sólo tendría que abonar la ficha del jugador con el correspondiente seguro.

El central, escogido mejor jugador argentino del año y tercero de toda Suramérica, está deseando que el Barça dé el visto bueno a la operación. Los informes del staff técnico blaugrana, con firma de los principales responsables, es del todo positivo.

Milito ya estuvo en órbita blaugrana hace dos temporadas. Pese a que entonces sólo tenía 18 años, Rexach ya vio en él un central de muchísimo presente y futuro. Pero una grave lesión truncó durante unos meses su carrera. Completamente recuperado, Milito ha demostrado en el fútbol argentino y en las competiciones internacionales en las que ha participado con su selección que es un digno sucesor de los grandes centrales del fútbol actual.

Rexach se entrevistó estos días en Punta del Este con el propietario del 50% del pase de Milito, que aceptaría la opción de los seis meses “a prueba” para que el central demuestre su clase. El Barça ya tiene incluso la tasación del jugador en el mes de junio en caso de que el club quiera hacerse con la posesión de la ficha del jugador: 7 millones de euros.

Todo está en manos ahora de Joan Gaspart. Si sigue el consejo de Rexach, Milito volaría desde Buenos Aires en el primer avión disponible. Si sirve como referencia, Van Gaal rechazó el fichaje porque según el holandés “es lento sacando el balón”. No piensan igual los técnicos del fútbol base azulgrana, ni Rexach, ni Alexanko, ni Toño de la Cruz, que han seguido las evoluciones del defensa argentino Milito estos últimos meses

According to MD.

[barça]

Originally posted by Olesen10
What position does he play? Centre forward, mid field....? A new Romario perhaps? :)

He is a 19 year old (as of last week) forward.

[Olesen10]

Okay, sounds interesting!

[Juan]

Good bringing in Milito, but I wonder if Rafa Marquez would have been a better choice... we´ll see.

[J R R]

milito and hopefully sorin too :cool:

[barça]

Valdano siad yesterday in an interview with El Clarin, that Milito needed to improve his game in the air and that he was not ready for primetime.

JRR, what do you think about that?

[J R R]

Originally posted by barça
Valdano siad yesterday in an interview with El Clarin, that Milito needed to improve his game in the air and that he was not ready for primetime.

JRR, what do you think about that?

he has come back from such a bad injury and imo is still getting to his best, but hes not far away
milito is a great defender has good anticipation,awareness and
has had a great season for independiente
imo he would do well in europe and barca definatly need to strengthen defence

[BLAUGRANA]

I'd take Milito over Sorin.

[J R R]

milito is good but id take sorin hes a class defender, can also play midfield he has good marking, good control he'd run all over
the left side and is good attacking
he was highly rated at cruzeiro...its not easy for an argie to make it in brasil :D
also hes allready in europe

[EVERS]

sorin could sign within hours if lazio and sorin agree terms over his contract. there are also reports in barca that milito will sign. this depends on a few circumstances. 1 if sorin doesn't sign. 2 the next manager. rexach scouted him and recommended him to gaspart. barca are reported to want him on loan for 6 months with an option to buy. menotti would also be keen on him.

another rumour in elmundo today is that barca are looking at pualeta of bordeaux and cavenaghi of river plate who also impressed rexach.

thats all i have today, but its unlikely we'll get anyone except for sorin.

great site u have here.

[barça]

Welcome to the boards

[lili]

wellcome, EVERS.;)

[gnlvagosov]

Welcome to WSB, Evers:)

[Strike]

WE don't get any of this players, no Sorin, no Milito,and no striker
It's a shame that we are so stupid to bring no close in to a player.
All we hear are big words, we are in talks with him, and him and so on.But that's only words.And not VG should be sacked,
it's should be the President, and the FAN'S.Most of them are very,
very stupid.VG has won 2 ligatitles and must go, why?And we are
selling the half of his team, why? one word STUPID.

[rshepherd1000]

Originally posted by Juan
Good bringing in Milito, but I wonder if Rafa Marquez would have been a better choice... we´ll see.

marquez would be an excellent signing

[EVERS]

sorin is in barcelona today and has passed a prelimanary medical. he should sign on loan from cruzeiro later today if he passes a further medical.

forgot to point out that barca have to agree a few details with cruzeiro.

thanx for the welcome.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by EVERS
sorin could sign within hours if lazio and sorin agree terms over his contract. there are also reports in barca that milito will sign. this depends on a few circumstances. 1 if sorin doesn't sign. 2 the next manager. rexach scouted him and recommended him to gaspart. barca are reported to want him on loan for 6 months with an option to buy. menotti would also be keen on him.

another rumour in elmundo today is that barca are looking at pualeta of bordeaux and cavenaghi of river plate who also impressed rexach.

thats all i have today, but its unlikely we'll get anyone except for sorin.

great site u have here.

Welcome EVERS.

As for Milito, I think we should have gone in for him. We need to get him on the cheap and i've read he would only have been around 3-4 million pounds.

As for Sorin, does anyone here know how much he'd/he'll cost us??? I've not seen a single sum in any of the reports i've read. I hope he turns out to be as good as i've heard he is. He didn't really impress me at the WC last summer.

Cavenaghi would be nice a buy. I wonder how much he'd cost us though. Juve are linked with him at the moment (again actually as they've been linked with him plenty of times) and could bring him in to bolster their aging squad this summer.

[rshepherd1000]

i hear d'alessandro has been checking out the nou camp as well.

however hamburg have apparently bought 50% of him for 3million. explain how that works?????

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by rshepherd1000
i hear d'alessandro has been checking out the nou camp as well.

however hamburg have apparently bought 50% of him for 3million. explain how that works?????

That D' Alessandro rumour is a bit old. I think he'd join us if we made a concrete move for him.

As for the Hamburg bit, I think was only a rumour.

[VAN BASTEN]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Welcome EVERS.

As for Sorin, does anyone here know how much he'd/he'll cost us??? I've not seen a single sum in any of the reports i've read. I hope he turns out to be as good as i've heard he is. He didn't really impress me at the WC last summer.


Man, the whole Argentina national team sucked last summer, not just Sorin ;). Sorin is a great player. Good at attacking and unlike Brazilian players , he can actually defend as well. I think he's a good addition

[barça]

Hey Marco:
Welcome to the boards

[EVERS]

Barca will pay Cruzeiro 600,000 euro to loan sorin until 31st of Dec 2003.

[Juan]

And, why don´t you send Geovanni their way to finish the transfer later?

[BLAUGRANA]

Sorin was unveilled today. Here he is:

http://www.fcbarcelona.com/imagenes/jugadores/futbol/Sorin/030203_PresentacioSorin_gra.jpg

[barça]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Sorin was unveilled today. Here he is:

http://www.fcbarcelona.com/imagenes/jugadores/futbol/Sorin/030203_PresentacioSorin_gra.jpg

With number 20 and a goal in his debut, albeit a friendly

[J R R]

good start for sorin

[BLAUGRANA]

We've been linked with Sao Paulo's Kaka. I don't know much about him, but with my new footie coverage on TV, I'll get to see him soon. I doubt we'll be able to afford him though.

[barça]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
We've been linked with Sao Paulo's Kaka. I don't know much about him, but with my new footie coverage on TV, I'll get to see him soon. I doubt we'll be able to afford him though.

Kaka has been linked to everyone. This kid is good, fast, tall and strong, he scored an excellent goal against Real Madrid in the century match.

Think of him as strong and tall Pablito Aimar. Good with both feet, excellent vision for passes and deadly strike power.

Whomever gest Kaka, gets an excellent player. Just get ready to hear about him going to every team in Europe.

[Juan]

He says that he will stay in Brazil until after the Olympics. A very realistic statement, for he loves his club yet they can´t keep him.

[yks_barca]

Originally posted by barça
Kaka has been linked to everyone. Whomever gest Kaka, gets an excellent player. Just get ready to hear about him going to every team in Europe.

well .. yes ... i heard that he's linked to madrid too .. so , still nothing to be sure of ...

[soccer fanatic]

I heard a link of Cocu going too Man City on a free transfer at the end of the year. PSV is also interested. (Which is no secret ofcourse)

[Juan]

Of course, Cocu is interested in a return to PSV

[Severus]

looks like that is what the bianconero transfer guru luciano moggi is prepared to offer this summer in exchange for the barcelona ROCK carlos puyol.

start changin' that signature 'zul :D

[FC Barca11]

Originally posted by Severus
looks like that is what the bianconero transfer guru luciano moggi is prepared to offer this summer in exchange for the barcelona ROCK carlos puyol.

start changin' that signature 'zul :D

Really? well.......

"Barcelona offered Laursen, Tomasson as Milan step up Puyol bid
tribalfootball.com - February 19, 2003

AC Milan are stepping up their bid to bring Barcelona fullback and stand-in skipper Carles Puyol to Italy next season.
It's reported that Milan have told Barca they are willing to offer one of either Jon Dahl Tomasson or Martin Laursen in part-exchange for the defender.

Puyol signed a new contract with Barca earlier this season and insists he is happy at the Nou Camp, despite the club's problems this season.

Barcelona asked about Laursen in January, but Milan weren't interested in a loan deal.

But the Italians know Barca remain keen on the Dane and will offer them the chance to include Laursen in a swap for Puyol in the summer. "

~ www.tribalfootball.com



Looks like Puyol is being linked to quite a few places, but it doesn't really matter. Puyol is stayin put for atleast another 2 years. He just signed a new contract and there is NO CHANCE IN HELL he's going. Sorry but all you italian fools :D ;) can keep your hands off. Neither Eric Reyna nor the future president could even contemplate letting Puyol go.

[barça]

If the team officers let Puyol go, they will have a tough time walking the streets of Barcelona.

He is destined to be the next great captain.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Severus
looks like that is what the bianconero transfer guru luciano moggi is prepared to offer this summer in exchange for the barcelona ROCK carlos puyol.

start changin' that signature 'zul :D

No chance. Puyol just signed a contract extension less than six months ago. He was linked with anyone and everyone then, but stuck with Barca despite all our problems. He's going nowhere. If he does, it's like barca says, no club official is walking the streets in Barcelona at night, much less during the day.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by barça

He is destined to be the next great captain.

Exactly. He's already an assistant captain with Cocu. He is our greatest player and for me the symbol of the club and what the club should strive for. I wouldn't swap him for ANY other player, NOT ANYONE. I'd sell him though, for 500 million pounds! (And not a penny less).

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by FC Barca11


~ www.tribalfootball.com





And oh yeah, consider the source.

[hollowi]

Yes, Milan have gathered £80M + a player for Puyol who won't negociate with other teams - why would he have signed a new contract with Barça if he wants to play somewhere else.

Of course the source is one of the most reliable. The National Enquirer of football. Or Mad magazine, that's probably closer :yawn:. Oh what news.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by BLAUGRANA
I'd sell him though, for 500 million pounds! (And not a penny less).

We will make a gesture, Reiziger for 499 million pounds!
(I could accept a penny less). :)

[BLAUGRANA]

I just read that Athletic are interested in Arteta. That just pisses me off. We should be the only club linked with the player. I hope we excercise our clause with Gers and bring him back.

[barça]

I would like to see him in Barcelona, but at this point, with no string leadership at the helm, is hard to see how Barcelona will manage to do that.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by barça
I would like to see him in Barcelona, but at this point, with no string leadership at the helm, is hard to see how Barcelona will manage to do that. :confused: String leadership?

[barça]

Originally posted by BLAUGRANA
:confused: String leadership?

Hey, what can I say, the "O" and the "I" are next to each other on my keyboard:silly:

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by barça
Hey, what can I say, the "O" and the "I" are next to each other on my keyboard:silly: :silly: Gotcha.

[Veritas]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic
I heard a link of Cocu going too Man City on a free transfer at the end of the year. PSV is also interested. (Which is no secret ofcourse)

Let him go ....
what we need is a defender ;)

[Olesen10]

Originally posted by Veritas
Let him go ....
what we need is a defender ;)
Let him go? I don't think so...And in the last two or three games our defense has worked fine, seems like Sorin was our man!

BTW Zul, did you get my PM? I sent it before the little crashdown a few days ago, it might not have reached you....:confused:

[Veritas]

Originally posted by Olesen10
..And in the last two or three games our defense has worked fine, seems like Sorin was our man!

But Sorin is not our man (unfortunately) :( That's why I told that we need a good defender.
As for Cocu I don't think that he is that much indispensable, though his recent matches performance if very well.

[barça]

I am always amazed at how little respect holding or defensive midfielders get. Makelele is a prime example, at the beginning of the year, real madrid fans did not care if he got a contract extension or not. Now this with Cocu. As long as he is back there winning balls, I want him on my team. Cocu leaves and who would replace him? Gabri is the only one that comes to mind and that does not make me to comfortable.

[Veritas]

Well maybe you're right. I'm just telling that we could and should get the better defensive midfielder (perhaps Van Bommel :) )
And this is not about being disrespectful, I just think that he is performing worse now than 3 years ago. That's it.

[relejado]

what about rochenback as defensive midfielder ?

[MxManiak]

Originally posted by relejado
what about rochenback as defensive midfielder ?

Rochemback??? Pleeeeeeeaaseee... Cocu's way better.

[Juan]

Cocu is doing great with Antic... but you should get someone else.

[BLAUGRANA]

I think if we look inwards for a Cocu replacement, we won't find exactly what we're looking for. What about Gerard though? I know he's more an attacking mid, but he has played defense for us this season.

[relejado]

of course, rochenbach is not equal with cocu,not yet, but i think, rochenbach has potential and could grow into a good alternative as defensive midfielder.

[MxManiak]

Yes but we have got Xavi and Motta, right? I never saw Rochemback do anything good this season... When does Cocu leave the club?

[relejado]

rumours say, that he will leave the club together with FDB at the end of this season, he may stay for another saeson, but I think not any longer. he sure is very experienced, so it's not easy to replace him, though..

[Shady]

i think we should renew Cocu's contract for one more year if he maintained his high performance. i dont find any player who is solid in tackling to partner xavi in our squad except lucho. although we will miss him in attack. if we have enough money with the arrival of a new president we should get davids but he will be expensive. but he is worth it. he is a perfect player in his position.

[relejado]

welcome aboard (slim-)shady :D :D

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by Shady
i think we should renew Cocu's contract for one more year if he maintained his high performance. i dont find any player who is solid in tackling to partner xavi in our squad except lucho. although we will miss him in attack. if we have enough money with the arrival of a new president we should get davids but he will be expensive. but he is worth it. he is a perfect player in his position.

I agree, could be a smart mov, ask him too take a paycut and if he is willing, keep him for one more year, I mean he still can be decisive in the team, he doesn`t need too be a keyplayer but even for backup, but only with a paycut.

[hollowi]

Originally posted by Shady
i think we should renew Cocu's contract for one more year if he maintained his high performance. i dont find any player who is solid in tackling to partner xavi in our squad except lucho. although we will miss him in attack. if we have enough money with the arrival of a new president we should get davids but he will be expensive. but he is worth it. he is a perfect player in his position.

Yes Davids is a top player but we have to remember tha Barça juniors keep pushing new brilliant midfielders every other day (Xavi, Iniesta, Arteta and attacking mid Trashorras). We should rather get ourselves a top attacker (farewell the trio Cocu, De Boer and Kluivert) instead of £40M midfielder when we have plenty of good ones of our own.

Defenders are a problem too. Buying Sorín would help this but no relief will come until we get ourselves one real central back. I believe that buying players like Chivu and Tristan (while selling the three mentioned) would not be very pricey operation. Realistic would be to say that Tristan would join Barça in summer if Kluivert goes and getting Chivu with the money from the three is no problem - actually the board would strengthen the squad (a lot) while making money! What would be better than that?

Although I'm willing to keep Cocu of the three, so no new money would be around but at least the squad would be better without any cost.

[MxManiak]

Originally posted by hollowi
Yes Davids is a top player but we have to remember tha Barça juniors keep pushing new brilliant midfielders every other day (Xavi, Iniesta, Arteta and attacking mid Trashorras). We should rather get ourselves a top attacker (farewell the trio Cocu, De Boer and Kluivert) instead of £40M midfielder when we have plenty of good ones of our own.

Defenders are a problem too. Buying Sorín would help this but no relief will come until we get ourselves one real central back. I believe that buying players like Chivu and Tristan (while selling the three mentioned) would not be very pricey operation. Realistic would be to say that Tristan would join Barça in summer if Kluivert goes and getting Chivu with the money from the three is no problem - actually the board would strengthen the squad (a lot) while making money! What would be better than that?

Although I'm willing to keep Cocu of the three, so no new money would be around but at least the squad would be better without any cost.

Yes, Tristan would be great and Davids is not needed. It would be great if we could get Chivu, Mexes or Boumsong, they are 3 great defenders. I think Iniesta plays great in the mid, so with him, Lucho, Riquelme, Xavi, Rochemback the shouldn't be any problems. Another problem is the GK because Bonano seems to be not effective enough. I'd love if Barca could get Rustu...

[Juan]

Only problem with that... is that Cocu and FDB would leave on frees.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Juan
Only problem with that... is that Cocu and FDB would leave on frees.

Yep.

[Shady]

In an interview with Ajax's egyptian striker Mido in the egyptian newspaper AL AHRAM, he said that Fc Barcelona has contacted him and his agent for his transfer to camp nou by the end of this season. Also he mentioned that Ajax president doesnt mind if the amount is suitable and he asked him to postpone any talk with barca till the end of the season. he also said that it is a dream to play in barca as it is one of the biggest clubs in europe.
so what do you guys think of Mido as a striker for barca???

[Knex]

Originally posted by Shady
In an interview with Ajax's egyptian striker Mido in the egyptian newspaper AL AHRAM, he said that Fc Barcelona has contacted him and his agent for his transfer to camp nou by the end of this season. Also he mentioned that Ajax president doesnt mind if the amount is suitable and he asked him to postpone any talk with barca till the end of the season. he also said that it is a dream to play in barca as it is one of the biggest clubs in europe.
so what do you guys think of Mido as a striker for barca???

I know Mido when he played in the Belgian League with Ghent, and he certainly a very talented player, no doubt about that, but there are dozens of that.
I mean, Mido is a real arrogant prig. Ghent couldn't afford it to leave him on the bench, because was really great there, he was a star. Ghent did qualify himself for Europe because of him.
Then he moved to Ajax and in the beginning he was playing well, but because of his difficult personality he has/had some problems with Koeman and now he's playing in the B-squad.

I think that he won't getting far with such a personality, he's still a child, he isn't very mature yet and that's why I don't think he will make it NOW with Barca.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Shady

so what do you guys think of Mido as a striker for barca???

No thanks. Shitty attitude and not too much to show for it on the pitch so far. I'd rather we got VDV, Chivu or Zlatan or we're after Ajax players.

[BLAUGRANA]

We've been rumoured to after a young Partizan Belgrade striker by the name of Danko Lazovic. This from Sky:

Antic:

"As in any big club it is one of our regular activities for scouts to follow certain talented players who are rated as stars of the future in their environments,"

"So I cannot confirm neither deny that we are interested in Lazovic.

"At the moment, we are in a very delicate situation, and it would be inappropriate to distress the current team roster with any transfer rumours concerning our future signings.


Anyone know anything about this kid?

[lili]

Originally posted by BLAUGRANA
....... I'd rather we got VDV, Chivu or Zlatan or we're after Ajax players.

And I'd rather they stay within Ajax for at least another year.
would make the european club competitions even more interesting next season.:smoking:

Besides, you still have no money to buy them and I think, Chivu will join us end of season.:evil: ;)

[soccer fanatic]

Let Real Madrid buy Mido, for lets say 20 million. :smoking:

[Juan]

Who do you think we are, you?

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic
Let Real Madrid buy Mido, for lets say 20 million. :smoking:

Great idea!:D

[lili]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic
Let Real Madrid buy Mido, for lets say 20 million. :smoking:

We've got enough strikers, smartie. Barca needs one desperately. Instead to win against Osasuna, they got just a draw out there.:smoking: :evil: :p :D

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by lili
We've got enough strikers, smartie. Barca needs one desperately. Instead to win against Osasuna, they got just a draw out there.:smoking: :evil: :p :D

It was 2-2, we need Chivu more than Mido. :)

But if you have too many strikers, we can trade him for Morientes. :D:D

[Juan]

If you send us Puyol, maybe.

[FC Barca11]

Originally posted by Juan
If you send us Puyol, maybe.


HA......funny....:)

[Strike]

How did Real play against Osasuna....hhhmm I've forgotten,
too bad..

[FC Barca11]

I know its not viable solution, but imagine how much better our goal keeping problems would become if Rustu Recber were to sign for us. His contract is up at the end of this season but every big club in Europe will be locked into bids trying to sign him. Ah if only this happened three years ago when we might have had a chance to sign him. Oh well, I guess we'll have to do with Bonano. What the hell happened to Enke??? He's not even a shadow of the player he was for Benefica.

[BLAUGRANA]

Why couldn't we get him? I can't think of many big clubs who'd drop their keeper for Rustu. Arsenal comes to mind, but that's it.

[Veritas]

How old is Rustu? I think he is over 30 ......
So we're changing Bonano who is 32 now, on another over-thirty-keeper. Though I admit that 29-33 are the best ages for keepers, but still why don't we buy a bit younger one.

[Shady]

Originally posted by Veritas
How old is Rustu? I think he is over 30 ......
So we're changing Bonano who is 32 now, on another over-thirty-keeper. Though I admit that 29-33 are the best ages for keepers, but still why don't we buy a bit younger one.

rustu is 29. and according to him he wants to sign a 4 year contract with a big clun in europe( he named barcelona as one of the options) which is exactly the perfect age for a GK. as veritas said it is the perfect age for a keeper. from 29 till 33. he is the best buy in the market for the following reasons:
1- he isnt playing for a big european club.
2- he will be free by the end of the season.
3- he wants to play for a big club.
4- all other big clubs have good GKs, maybe arsenal is the exception, but they mentioned other Gks as a replacement to seaman.
5- perfect age combining experience with youth.
6-he is a star kind of player and a leader. we need leadership skills and stars to give the club the class we lacked in the past years.

[Veritas]

Originally posted by Shady
rustu is 29. and according to him he wants to sign a 4 year contract with a big clun in europe( he named barcelona as one of the options) which is exactly the perfect age for a GK. as veritas said it is the perfect age for a keeper. from 29 till 33. he is the best buy in the market for the following reasons:
1- he isnt playing for a big european club.
2- he will be free by the end of the season.
3- he wants to play for a big club.
4- all other big clubs have good GKs, maybe arsenal is the exception, but they mentioned other Gks as a replacement to seaman.
5- perfect age combining experience with youth.
6-he is a star kind of player and a leader. we need leadership skills and stars to give the club the class we lacked in the past years.

Well I didn't know that he's 29 now. If so I completely agree with you that he's best buy in the market.
In addition to the reasons you're listed above I want to mention that he is simply very good keeper and he proved it on last World Championship.

[lili]

Sign him, he's one of the best imo. Still remembering what great job he did in the WC matches, before all against Brasil. Amazing.:)

[soccer fanatic]

Agreed, Rustu would be a great signing.

[MxManiak]

Originally posted by Shady
rustu is 29. and according to him he wants to sign a 4 year contract with a big clun in europe( he named barcelona as one of the options) which is exactly the perfect age for a GK. as veritas said it is the perfect age for a keeper. from 29 till 33. he is the best buy in the market for the following reasons:
1- he isnt playing for a big european club.
2- he will be free by the end of the season.
3- he wants to play for a big club.
4- all other big clubs have good GKs, maybe arsenal is the exception, but they mentioned other Gks as a replacement to seaman.
5- perfect age combining experience with youth.
6-he is a star kind of player and a leader. we need leadership skills and stars to give the club the class we lacked in the past years.

7- He is the best keeper in the world

[Veritas]

Great now we agreed that Rustu is the one we need.

Now folks who do you think we need to buy for our defence?

Imo we have to sign Sorin first, and then ....... to say the truth I don't know Chivu could be an option, but we should look for our funds first.

What do you think?

[FC Barca11]

What about Metzelder from Dortmund? Not sure about his details (contract, cost) but he's been great in Bundesliga.

[FC Barca11]

Actually forget it, now that i think about it, Metzelder won't because Sammer has already said he's intransferable. I think Real Madrid tried to sign him and so are Inter currently.

[FC Barca11]

William Gallas from Chelsea?

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by MxManiak
7- He is the best keeper in the world

I'd have to say Casillas myself.

[Juan]

Gallas is a good choice. And Chelsea aren´t exactly rolling in cash right now...

[Olesen10]

I'd have to say Casillas myself.
As hard as it is for me to say, I'll have to agree. Cassilas is young, but has already experienced two CL finals, and seems very motivated every time he walks into a game.

[BLAUGRANA]

Barca are in the news today.

We've been linked with Kaiserslautern striker Miroslav Klose. IMO, he's bound for Bayern.

We've also been linked with Malaga keeper Pedro Contreras. He'd be available on a free in June. Then again, so is Rustu.

Also, according to papers in Spain, we've been linked with John Carew. His agents denies it though. I don't know if I'd go for him.

[BLAUGRANA]

Ajax striker Mido has linked himself with us. He claims he could be playing at the Nou Camp next season. IMO, he has a whole lot of maturing to do both on and off the field. I'd take him on the very cheap, assuming he understands he's third choice striker behind Kluivert and Saviola. Also, he'd have to understand that any childish behaviour and it's down to the B team.

[lili]

As Casillas isn't available, Rustu would be a good choice. What's his price?

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by lili
As Casillas isn't available, Rustu would be a good choice. What's his price?

Free when his contract expires in June. He can come to an agreement with a club now, but it won't be official 'til June.

[lili]

Good chance for Barca. I would take him. Also cause Bonano is a lousy goalkeeper.

[barça]

Rustu's problem is that Turkish players are considered in the non-EU quota, Barcelona already has its limit.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by barça
Rustu's problem is that Turkish players are considered in the non-EU quota, Barcelona already has its limit.

Good point. Does Sorin have an Italian passport? I heard that Saviola could potentially get one, hopefully he does soon. I say sell Geo and then that'll free up some space.

[barça]

Geovanni did free the space for Sorin. I am not sure about what Saviola's status is.

Right now is: Sorin, Saviola, Rochemback and Riquelme.

[Shady]

i think we should sell rochemback at the end of this season and keep a place for rustu. any other player in the squad can replace rochemback. then we can use his place for non eu players for only super stars like rustu or maybe ronaldinho if the new president wants to have a successful campain.

[Shady]

Originally posted by BLAUGRANA
Barca are in the news today.

We've been linked with Kaiserslautern striker Miroslav Klose. IMO, he's bound for Bayern.

i only so him playing in the world cup and he was a very good striker, but to be frank i cant have a fair judgment because i havent seen him playing in bundesliga. if you saw him playing in other occasions advise if he is a good buy.

Also, according to papers in Spain, we've been linked with John Carew. His agents denies it though. I don't know if I'd go for him.

i wouldnt. we dont need another dani.

[lili]

Neither would I. He needs 100 chances to score. ;)

[Veritas]

Originally posted by BLAUGRANA
Barca are in the news today.

We've been linked with Kaiserslautern striker Miroslav Klose. IMO, he's bound for Bayern.

We've also been linked with Malaga keeper Pedro Contreras. He'd be available on a free in June. Then again, so is Rustu.

Also, according to papers in Spain, we've been linked with John Carew. His agents denies it though. I don't know if I'd go for him.

WHAT??? Klose :mad: ...... we don't need him ........ NO, NO, and one more NO.
As for Contreras, imo Rustu is better and he'll be available in June as well, so we should definetly sign him.

Carew ..... could be good a good one to sign, but the price??? I don't think we have that much money to get him. Furthermore currently our first priorities are defender and keeper, striker purchasing could wait for a while

[relejado]

what about babbel from liverpool? he is strong, experienced and liverpool wouldn't probably ask that much money for him...he can either play as defender or defending mid.