2002/2003 FC Barcelona Official Transfers and Transfer Rumours Thread

[Juan]

Three words: Forget. About. Chivu

:P

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic
Personally I would prefer someone who already knows Spanish football and has already proved he can play good in Spain. Makaay or Tristan. Makaay would be great for me. :)

Either or, though i'd prefer Tristan.

[Olesen10]

Tristan hasn't showed so much in the last two or three months. I'd say go for Makaay! (still don't know how to spell it...:))

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Olesen10
Tristan hasn't showed so much in the last two or three months. I'd say go for Makaay! (still don't know how to spell it...:))

Your spelling is correct. Tristan hasn't shown too much because he was injured and then didn't automatically get his place back due to the form of Makaay.

[Olesen10]

Oh, ok.

[BLAUGRANA]

He'll be in Barcelona next week for a television interview. It's rumoured he'll be meeting with Barca.

[Strike]

*lol* sure Alessandro came to barca to open talks. It's stupid
to think only for an interview.Why should he come for an interview?

[Maarten]

I think you should be looking to clubs who aren't doing very well.

I would sell : Rochemback, Geovanni , Christanval,

I would keep : Gerard!!!!

I would buy : Milito (real good), Harry Kewell, (maybe even Mark Viduka?) , Bernd Schneider, (I really like Ballack!!!)
sergio Conc. ,

And consider. Why buy so many players from argentina? You can only let four of them play in the same team.

Riquelme, Saviola, Bonano, only room for one more!!!!

we'll see


I HOPE THEY WILL WIN AGAINST NEWCASTLE.
GOOD LUCK BARCA AND LVG !!!!!

from Belgium

[hallee]

it seems that feyenoord player pierre van hooijdonk will move to barcelona in the winterbreak according to dutch newspapers and dutch footballsites (http://www.viplanet.nl/show?id=477274&contentid=46227)

What do you spanish guys think....lets buy all the players of Holland....who is next? Van nistelrooy, davids, van der vaart....why don't you select spanish guys in your team!

[funky6]

I would suggest you not to believe every rumour.(van hooijdonk to barça???i hope you're joking).

That's how football is man, players go where they have the best offers,it is not about countries though Holland has a reputation of producing some of the biggest talents in Europe and that's why some players leave.

Besides the former teams of these players are paid i guess.

[Robledo]

Originally posted by Maarten


I would buy : Milito (real good), Harry Kewell, (maybe even Mark Viduka?) , Bernd Schneider, (I really like Ballack!!!)
sergio Conc. ,

And consider. Why buy so many players from argentina? You can only let four of them play in the same team.

Riquelme, Saviola, Bonano, only room for one more!!!!



Viduka? LOL, he can't even make the Leeds 1st team. Plus from what I've seen of him, he is extremely lazy, and doesn't put much effort in.

On the other subject, many Argentine players have Spanish/Italian passports. In this case D'Allesandro has an Italian passport and therefore by passes this 4 Non Eu player rule. Bonano has an Italian passport also

Plus South American players are relatively cheap, in comparison to en equal ability player in Europe.Barca are not as rich as they once were, and there are many bargains out there in South America

I agree with Milto btw!

[relejado]

why selling rochenback, he could be the perfect cocu-successor. schneider makes sense, but i dont think leverkusen will sell him. they already lost ballack and ze roberto.

[Juan]

Well, it´s not like they are ManU or something...

I´ve heard that Madrid (Valdano) wants Milito, but Florentino is having second thoughts. You guys have your chance!

[soccer fanatic]

:D:D:D:D:D

If Van Gaal gets Van Hooijdonk, all my sympathy for him is gone and I will stop defending him inmediatly. What drugs is he on?

I asume for now it is a rumour, if not, Van Gaal will be dropped of my "adoration" list. My god, I would be devastated. The guy is not remotely good enough too go to Barca

Van Hooijdonk too Barca. :D
Who is next? Aaron Winter? Bob Peeters? :D:D

But it is probably just a rumour, if not, fire him. :)

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by hallee
Van nistelrooy, davids, van der vaart....why don't you select spanish guys in your team!

I'd take all three of these guys in a heartbeat. I don't care if they're dutch or martian! :alien:

I DON'T want Pierre though! Go for JFH instead.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA

I'd take all three of these guys in a heartbeat. I don't care if they're dutch or martian! :alien:


Exactly, in the end fans want good football, to play that you need good players, if there Spanish it is great, but if they make a squad visuably better, you should go for it, no matter where they come from.


I DON'T want Pierre though! Go for JFH instead.

JFH definetly before Pierre, but rather neither and Makaay or Tristan, whoever price-quality comparation is better. How much are they rated, do you have any idear? How much will Makaay cost.

BTW, I read via an Ajax USA link Didulica, Ajax goalkeeper is followed by Barca, he is out of contract at the end of the season and will be free, Ajax made an offer but Didulica seems to want the move, more good clubs are interested. It is a rumour, but more likely than the Pierre one. Since he is transfer free I think it could be true.

[Maarten]

Yesterday I watched Ajax - Roma and what I saw was great.
Zlatan is a great player (that's a hint towards LVG)

Great goal by Litmanen.
In my eyes Emerson failed completely. Is he going to move to Barça? It's a pity that Barcelona was not able to play against Newcastle. I hope they win this evening!!

I know that some argentine players have international pasports.
Rochemback a replacement for Cocu?
You're kidding right?
He's good, but he ain't that good. Cocu is a player of such importance, he is at this time not replacable at Barcelona. (where the **** is Arteta????)
I got an idea for a defensive player.
He's a belgian guy and he's known as a player in the midfield but he has played his best matches in the defence.
He is a player of FC Bruges. There leading the table in Belgium by nine points. I'm talking about Timmy Simons!!
He's just as good, maybe better than Chivu. He is not that expensive, 24/25 years old.
May I remind you to the game he played with Belgium against Brazil!!!!

I think its time that barca starts winning or the first transfer will be making is probably Roma trainer Cappello!!!

GOOD LUCK BARCELONA AND LVG!!!!!!!!

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by Maarten
Yesterday I watched Ajax - Roma and what I saw was great.
Zlatan is a great player (that's a hint towards LVG)


He has his moments. :)


Great goal by Litmanen.
In my eyes Emerson failed completely. Is he going to move to Barça? It's a pity that Barcelona was not able to play against Newcastle. I hope they win this evening!!


Yes it was, but Litmanen is not for sale anymore. :D
Same here, I`m confident they will win.


I know that some argentine players have international pasports.
Rochemback a replacement for Cocu?
You're kidding right?


Exactly. I agree. :)


(where the **** is Arteta????)


In Scotland right?


I'm talking about Timmy Simons!!
He's just as good, maybe better than Chivu. He is not that expensive, 24/25 years old.


:) Just as good? :)


I think its time that barca starts winning or the first transfer will be making is probably Roma trainer Cappello!!!


Since yesterday I like Capello a lot, but definetly don`t want him as coach.

[barça]

Soccer fanatic:

Excellent reply. In full agreement.

As far as Capello let that man stay somewhere else, please don't even mention that name again. I would consider a rooting sabatical if that guy coaches Barcelona. Is already bad enough with Van Maal. Capello does not even like Pep!!!!!

[yks_barca]

Mechile Arteta ? hmmm .. i'm not sure if he's in scotland .. I think we sold him to PSG or Lyon .. what i know is that he plays in the French League ... i say i'm not sure again ..

[Robledo]

Originally posted by yks_barca
Mechile Arteta ? hmmm .. i'm not sure if he's in scotland .. I think we sold him to PSG or Lyon .. what i know is that he plays in the French League ... i say i'm not sure again ..

He plays for Glasgow Rangers in Scotland, and playing quite well I might add, which is not hard, it's the SPL after all

[Juan]

If you want Arteta back, you´ll have to get him at a 5 million euro deficit, at least. Nice move Gaspart.

Also, forget about D´Alessandro. I think Gaspart (once again?) has taken him off his list.

[J R R]

D'alessandro appeared on the TV show and they asked him about playing for Barca they also gave him a Barca shirt with his
name on and#11
he says he is not here to talk with the club and has no meeting
with them

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Juan
If you want Arteta back, you´ll have to get him at a 5 million euro deficit, at least. Nice move Gaspart.



Yeah, but I don't think it's any more than we sold him for. I really want him back though.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Juan

Also, forget about D´Alessandro. I think Gaspart (once again?) has taken him off his list.

I'd prefer VDV myself.

[BLAUGRANA]

Mendieta to Inter at the end of the season. Barca are willing to pay about 10 million pounds for him, but that's about 5 million pounds short of what their agreement with Lazio states. Inter meanwhile are willing to pay 14 million pounds at the end of the season.

Barca are reportedly looking to bring in Dortmund playmaker Tomas Rosicky for 34 million euros.

[funky6]

Barca are reportedly looking to bring in Dortmund playmaker Tomas Rosicky for 34 million euros.

To do what???!!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad:

First Van Hoijjdonk then Rosicky...who's next?(+Boyer)..C'mon everybody..Barça is buying!Who's next?Sonck?I hope we are not falling that down...

I've heard a rumour about Stam..I hope it's true and Barça get him in December cause there are not many(almost any) solutions to solve our defensive CHAOS(Lualua:rolleyes: assured me)

[Strike]

Thats just rumours. Barca haven't 34M to sign Rosicky.
And Mendieta for 22M€ is to much. Than he should go to inter.
If barca really have 34M they should go in 3 or 4 good transfers.
Maybe VDV he costs around 12-13M.And DON'T forget about
Chivu, cause the highest bid will get him. So if real bid is 13M
We bid 20M.

[Maarten]

Rosicky?
He's a great player.
But I was thinking about Metzelder. Great defender.

selling Mendieta?
Mendieta is great, if you play with him in his position.
Sell rochemback and Geovanni instead.
Overmars played wellI thought yesterday. He has my support.

10 victories in a row. nine to go

BTW Did anyody see that move from Ljungberg against Valencia?
Waaaawww!

[hollowi]

Barca should really buy Mendieta, and I think they will. Me mustn't forget that LvG never wanted Riquelme and that he wanted badly Mendieta. If Gaspart is trying to meddle with his businesses, LvG is gone... I think Gaspart cannot aford that. If only someone told LvG what the english word couple "central right" means Gaz would be playing better. He may also need some time to recover from the Lazio year, I say let's watch this year. It took him over 5 years in Valencia to become great.

I just noticed a good possibility from CM: If you are not playing with Barca in CM01-02 (using the latest rosters) they are playing a sort of 4-2-4. Interesting idea, but here comes the players:

-----------Kluivert------Saviola-----------
Overmars--------------------Luis Enrique
------------Cocu-----Mendieta------------
Navarro-Christanval-Andersson-Puyol
----------------Bonano----------------------

This would be pretty much a perfect system, and with Lucho injured Riquelme could (at least should) be able to play as right wing. Of course you could have the whole midfield in same level but the point is that this is attacking system with a lot of power in midfield and a pretty hard defense line (if only we could change Navarro for some good experienced player... The youngster isn't ready yet to take the responsibility of defense in left wing. And Christanval goes right out when FDB comes available once again. And I totally agree with Maarten; we should get rid of the two that aren't good enough and replace them with someone else. Hopefully not midfielders :) We've got more than enough that sort already; 6 great players and a couple good and some of those not-so-good ones.

[gnlvagosov]

Barca is also linked with Eric Carriere

[Juan]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


Yeah, but I don't think it's any more than we sold him for. I really want him back though.

I meant, you´ll have to pay at least 5 million more than you got from Gers.

[yks_barca]

I heard many rumours about him ... I don't want him to leave at all ..

Cristinaval is a good lad ! He's young and should from now take his place as a 1st team player IF Van Gaal uses 4 defence in his tactics !

I'd choose the defence to be like that :

--- Navarro --- De Boer --- Cristinaval --- Puyol ---

Reizeger is out for 6 weeks .. and If Anderson is back and fit ... IMO( it's only my opinion ) , i would take Navarro off and use De Boer as a sweeper ! Here it is :


------ Anderson --- Cristinaval --- Puyol ---
-------------------- De Boer -----------------

-------------------- Bonano ------------------

When choosing to play with a 3 men at the back ... the choice would really be hard ... The experienced come 1st !!

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by funky6


To do what???!!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad:

)

While I don't think we need him with Riquelme, Rosicky is very good little player. You don't like him?

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Juan


I meant, you´ll have to pay at least 5 million more than you got from Gers.

I don't know, but i'm pretty sure we wouldn't have to. I think there was a clause written in with a stated price. There definately was a clause, but i'm not sure about the price bit.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by hollowi
Barca should really buy Mendieta, and I think they will. Me mustn't forget that LvG never wanted Riquelme and that he wanted badly Mendieta. If Gaspart is trying to meddle with his businesses, LvG is gone... I think Gaspart cannot aford that. If only someone told LvG what the english word couple "central right" means Gaz would be playing better. He may also need some time to recover from the Lazio year, I say let's watch this year. It took him over 5 years in Valencia to become great.

I just noticed a good possibility from CM: If you are not playing with Barca in CM01-02 (using the latest rosters) they are playing a sort of 4-2-4. Interesting idea, but here comes the players:

-----------Kluivert------Saviola-----------
Overmars--------------------Luis Enrique
------------Cocu-----Mendieta------------
Navarro-Christanval-Andersson-Puyol
----------------Bonano----------------------

This would be pretty much a perfect system, and with Lucho injured Riquelme could (at least should) be able to play as right wing. Of course you could have the whole midfield in same level but the point is that this is attacking system with a lot of power in midfield and a pretty hard defense line (if only we could change Navarro for some good experienced player... The youngster isn't ready yet to take the responsibility of defense in left wing. And Christanval goes right out when FDB comes available once again. And I totally agree with Maarten; we should get rid of the two that aren't good enough and replace them with someone else. Hopefully not midfielders :) We've got more than enough that sort already; 6 great players and a couple good and some of those not-so-good ones.

OK, so LVG didn't bring JRR in. It doesn't matter. JRR is here and he's not likely to be going anywhere, and I don't want him to. He's our best midfielder and should be starting every match. I can't believe you left him out of that lineup!

As for Mendigol, it's LVG whose playing him out of position. It's great he brought him in, but he needs to used as a central mid. LVG hasn't really fielded him as your lineup does.

[hollowi]

I left him out because I think three defenders or one attacker isn't enough and seems that JRR isn't doing well if he doesn't play as central attacking midfielder. As I said "If only someone told LvG what the english word couple "central right" means, Gaz would be playing better". It is LvG's fault. One choice is to drop Overmars and Enrique to the level of Cocu and Mendieta and change Cocu for JRR and put him higher than the others. Like this:

------------------Riquelme---------------
Overmars------Mendieta-------Lucho

This tactique would be Mendieta in right and Cocu in the middle as long as Lucho is off the game.

Riquelme is really great I won't debate that. Maybe the best player we've got. And he almost scored straight from the corner vs. the Magpies! Also JRR is very ambitious, like he shoots from 30 or 35 meters if he feels like it and thinks he has the possibility but I don't think he's done anything stupid. And Saviola-Riquelme, who are likely to be at least as good as their compatriot duo Véron-Batistuta (was), if not better. Hell, they are as good, if not better, and they've got still 10 years easily. Hopefully we can keep both in Barca until they retire. Riquelme at least seems very happy to be in Barca and he's not troubled with LvG's tactics.

[Strike]

http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/20021213/NOTICIA51702859.html



It's a little bit much money what think you guys?

[hollowi]

Hmm. Maybe. I think 15 would sound a lot better. Though he is great and would have a lot more years to play than JFH. Maybe we could go for Tristan now that he doesn't get that much time in Deportivo. Maybe. We'll see...

[relejado]

Originally posted by Strike
http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/20021213/NOTICIA51702859.html



It's a little bit much money what think you guys?

cisse makes sense, but how would you field him ? together with kluivert ? instead of kluivert ? how would your line-up look like ?

[yks_barca]

Originally posted by Strike
http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/20021213/NOTICIA51702859.html

It's a little bit much money what think you guys?

I think it's rubbish !


Originally posted by relejado


cisse makes sense, but how would you field him ? together with kluivert ? instead of kluivert ? how would your line-up look like ?

Exactamente !! Or maybe use him and keep Saviola in the bench ? I don't think so !

[funky6]

I'm sorry to say that but i don't think Kluivert has anything else to give to Barça.He's only 26 but already seems like a veteran in my eyes .If a striker/goalscorer(who is necessary for Barça) is about to come it's definitely Patrick's replacement so there's no reason thinking of systems to fit both in the starting eleven.Everybody in Barcelona knows it.He's been faithful,a great player for Barça,great technique,passings etc but i want GOALS and i don't think a miracle is about to happen:(

Cisse and Saviola upfront...i'd love to see that though i don't know if Cisse is the goal machine Barça needs(like Jardel) but i really like him.20 m is much for him though.Between him and JFH i'd definitely pick Cisse.

Something more about Kluivert.I'll never understand his change in the NT games.When he plays for Holland he seems like a top-star/scorer,one of the best players in the world even in my eyes(i never was crazy about him) but when he's wearing the Barça jersey he's just the old,slow,always loosing chances Kluivert.I guess it's one more reason it would be better for him to continue in another team.

[Juan]

I don´t really think much about that Cisse rumor, since I´m not sure that he would be a fit for Barça (I think he would be better off at Serie A). What you need is a Tristan type forward, too bad you didn´t take your chances with Luque when you could.

[hollowi]

funky6, Kluivert anyway scores most goals in FCB. I'd really go for Tristan, but I think Luque doesn't have enough quality. About Jardel, I never want him to play in Barca. He's old and attitude like he presented in Portugal doesn't make me want him too badly. About Cisse, I don't believe in his coming either. But a club like Barca is always a target for rumours.

LvG should approach Deportivo about Tristan, we could get most of the money from Dani who is the target of interest in some British teams. Tristan could also be cheap because he is too much on the bench. If he can replace Kluivert well enough, Pat could be sold after the season. He'd make money for Mendieta, Tristan and Riquelme. That's a deal I'd go for :)

[Strike]

*lol* Kluivert wouldn't be sold ---->Never.If he is an veteran
what's then ronaldo?---->Grandpa?
People I can say you why Kluivert looks at the NT beter than at us.
Cause the midfield at the Nederlands NT is much .... no many
more than much beter than us. I say you what makes
the difference -----> Seedorf and Davids.

1. Davids is in his position clear no.1 in the world.
2. Seedorf is much better than Mendieta or Gabri or Gerard
and Seedorf is I think as effective as Riquelme.

No I hope Kluivert stays.

People I've read we have per season 170.000.000.€ money with
us. How can we go in dept? How?
Auxerre has 15.000.000 and is not in dept. I didn't understand.

But Kluivert is to important that we can sell him.

we should think about what's going on if cocu leave?
I've seen yesterday a good defensive player at auxerre.

Hollowi you must know him-----> teemu tainio.I think in few years
he gona be very strong.

but I say going for Davids.

If Cocu and F.De Boer gone thats my favourite Line-up.



-------------------------------Bonano---------------------------------

Puyol------------Gallas------------------Chivu------------Navarro

------------------------------Davids-----------------------------------

Lucho-----------------------------------------------------Overmars

-----------------------------Riquelme--------------------------------

--------------Saviola---------------------------Kluivert-------------


that means buying:

1. Gallas (Chelsea own money from us)
2. Chivu ( Now we must made a investition)
3. Davids( the only that can really replace Cocu IMO I think)
4. JFH or Salas or Cisse ( an striker)
sell:

1. Motta (very weak much weaker than for example VDV.)
2. Dani ( made a goal but to weak all the years)
3. Geovanni ( also to weak)
4. Alfonso ( re to betis)
5. Maybe but only maybe rochemback.

And guys we need another sponsor maybe an dress sponsor.
If we get 60M€ for 3 years thats very good.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by Strike
*lol* Kluivert wouldn't be sold ---->Never.If he is an veteran
what's then ronaldo?---->Grandpa?
People I can say you why Kluivert looks at the NT beter than at us.

Perhaps Kluivert is a veteran becuse he is a star now for a long time, from young age and is playing at the highest level for a long time. As much as I love kluivert, it could be he needs a new challenge with another team in a new league, probably England.


Cause the midfield at the Nederlands NT is much .... no many
more than much beter than us. I say you what makes
the difference -----> Seedorf and Davids.


I agree. Seedorf not as much though, I think it is merely Davids.


People I've read we have per season 170.000.000.€ money with
us. How can we go in dept? How?
Auxerre has 15.000.000 and is not in dept. I didn't understand.


It is just a different budget. They are simply spending too much money, more than they have or can generate.


But Kluivert is to important that we can sell him.


Yes and no. Yes he is good and important for a team like Barca. No, because he seems to need a new challenge.


And guys we need another sponsor maybe an dress sponsor.
If we get 60M€ for 3 years thats very good. [/B]

As soon as they start to where dresses I have to give up my fanship. :D

A new sponsor would be great ofcourse, but first clean up your selection and make sure the squad is balanced and big enough, but not too big. Easier said then done ofcourse, but if you want too progress, this has too be done.

[funky6]

No, because he seems to need a new challenge.

Exactly!

And guys we need another sponsor maybe an dress sponsor.
If we get 60M€ for 3 years thats very good.

Aarghhh!I'm sorry to tell you guys but the chance of seeing a stupid sponsor in Barça's jersey is less than seeing E.T. himself(he must be married by now).The person that would officially suggest Barça to put a sponsor would be hung immediately from socios and fans IMO.

Besides Barça's financial problems have nothing to do with the lack of a sponsor.They exist because of the wrong decisions of the last years.Barça has some great deals with Nike and other companies for merchandising as well as a great deal with NFL.

Just think that the decision of a plain jersey is the best deal that Barça could have ever done with a stupid company considering the Club's popularity because of this and the jerseys sold etc.It's like a "trick" that has worked perfectly and always will(financially,cause it's a much more important issue in general).
Don't think that the Club will face a Lazio situation because of the lack of a sponsor.Barça's substructures are really deep(catalan banks etc)

Sorry for being boring but it's a really important issue to speak for in one or two lines.

[soccer fanatic]

Doesn`t have to be a shirt sponsor.

[funky6]

:confused::confused:

[soccer fanatic]

You don`t know their are other sort of deals than shirt sponsoring? :)

[funky6]

I've mentioned about Nike,NFL,isostar and others above.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by funky6
I've mentioned about Nike,NFL,isostar and others above.

Then why the confused smilies? Just agreed with the one who posted it that an extra sponsor would be nice.

I read your post ofcourse on shirt sponsoring and agree, but that is why I posted there are other options too.

[Strike]

Other thing. I read stam maybe get free from lazio, if he not get
his salaris.
Soccer what is your mean? I hope we get him.
Omdat hij een zeer goeden verdediger is.
Ik ben niet zeker maar ik denk dat de anderen nederlanders
van barca wel met hem gaan praten.

Also we are interest in Milito,JFH,and Alessandro.

Let's get bigger.

[Blaugrana4Ever]

A few days ago, i read that AJ Auxxere have asked for 20 million dollars of barca for Gibriel Cisse. Well I think he's worth every penny and his raids down the left flank are a nightmare for all defenders. plus he is only 21 years old and has done wonders with Auxxere the past few seasons and he was named best young player talent of the year. Barca should also buy a defender especially with Frank de Boer looking certain to leave barca and spend his end of career in Ajax and with christianval's future uncertain and with Andersson's continuous Accidents. so what do you thin. Is Cisse worth 20 million ??? And do we need a new top class defender to spear barca all the wierd goals they have conceded ???

I'm happy for Overmars who is starting to come back to his top form and broke up the Newcastle defence on wednesday.

[relejado]

shirtsponsor ?? NO f***' way !!!
there must be other posibilities to get or make money.

what's about those barca-gasstations allover catalunya. don't they bring money ?? do they still exist ?

[funky6]

Then why the confused smilies? Just agreed with the one who posted it that an extra sponsor would be nice.

I read your post ofcourse on shirt sponsoring and agree, but that is why I posted there are other options too.

It's ok then.I thought you meant a shirt(dress?) sponsor that's it.:).

It's something that many fans outside Spain ask for..the last years,as if Barça had a sponsor we would be reigning everywhere the 3 last seasons..:rolleyes:

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by funky6

as if Barça had a sponsor we would be reigning everywhere the 3 last seasons..:rolleyes:

Exactly, but on the other hand, lets say the sponsor sponsors Barca for 20 million, that could have been Chivu in Barca shirt.

Kidding aside I agree. If it only was that easy. First the squad has to be sorted out.

[Juan]

I don´t think a shiir sponsor is really needed. Just look at that worldwide fanbase, and how many shirts sold it means. Just pull a Manchester United and increase the merchandising. Flo is doing it, and Madrid is perhaps less of a marketable name.

[barça]

First hell will freeze then Barcelona will get a shirt sponsor. After having been in Barcelona and Catalunya for a long time, I tell you, this won't happen, if it does, it will be in other generations. The mood of today, won't allow it.

Is part of their appeal, imagine having to see that ugly Siemens Mobile logo, or the Rayo Vallecano bee or is that a wasp? Or worse, having to listen to my mother (who knows nothing of soccer) say, "I like the Vodafone team!!!!!"

Don't think so.

[Olesen10]

As you said, hell would freeze before Barca got a shirt sponsor. And besides that, we already got a Nike logo at the right side of the chest on our shirt, and that's far enough!

[BLAUGRANA]

NO SHIRT SPONSOR!!! :mad:

Cisse is way too expensive and this is just a silly rumour IMO. Auxerre reps have rubbished the reports already.

As for Kluivert leaving, it'd depend on who we brought in. I consider keeping Kluivert and moving Saviola to another position or put him on the bench.

[FC Barca11]

Well, at the beginning of the season, Van Gaal said he'd want a left-sided player and a forward. I still don't understand why the board haven't taken advantage and tried to sign D'Allesandro. He seems to love the city and the club. I really hope he comes to Barcelona, along with JFH. I guess the problem would be what to do with Overmars. The thing with Kluivert is that he doesn't just score goals, he sets up chances and provokes penalties which the team can make great use of. Imagine in JFG lined up with Kluivert to finish up chances that Kluivert makes, and even Kluivert putting away a few chances of his own. But the question is what to do with Saviola. I guess we'd have to find him a different position or just sit him on the bench. Also sport.es has reported that this is going to be De Boer and Cocu's final year, and they are waiting till the end of the season to announce their return to Holland.

What if Van Gaal played a flat out 3-4-3. Unless Barcelona are in defensive mode, I don't think he uses 4 defenders, its usually 3 defenders and a holding midfielder right? In any case, I hope we get alteast one quality player during the winter transfer window, and hopefully we'll have Andersson and Lucho back too.

[soccer fanatic]

I don`t think JFH will be a good buy for Barca, he can`t play football at all, he can sure, but he is lousy at heading, technical stuff, vision, all he can do is score and shoot hard. Although he clearly has the most important skill, scoring, he has to be able to do more than just score and shoot hard too be a worthy asset. Barca should search for a more complete striker, Tristan or Makaay perhaps. are they, or one of them, available for transfer, and interested?

[funky6]

Makaay or much better Tristan would be a huge buy IMO.I think they would be interested as any Liga player to play in one of the too biggest Clubs of the country.I don't know how Barça can buy them but the bad is that both cannot play in the C.l.

With Cocu,Deboer,perhaps Kluivert,Mendieta about to leave Barça must start looking from now for players to buy and teams for others.

The squad needs a deep sort out while financially we are not in an easy situation.Bad timing..

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by FC Barca11
Well, at the beginning of the season, Van Gaal said he'd want a left-sided player and a forward. I still don't understand why the board haven't taken advantage and tried to sign D'Allesandro. He seems to love the city and the club. I really hope he comes to Barcelona. I guess the problem would be what to do with Overmars.

Well, since you mentioned it... I read that LVG disagrees with comments made by Castells (vice president) over any January transfers. Castells said that LVG felt there was no need for any January transfers. However, LVG said: "It is a little surprising. But from last summer I arrived saying that I needed a left midfielder and a forward."

To that end, we've been linked with D' Alessandro AGAIN. River Plate's vice president has said that they've recieved no firm offers, but that a move to Spain for the player looks increasingly likely when the transfer window opens next week. Supposedly River Plate want 16 million euros for the player.

As for what to do with Overmars if D' Alessandro were to come, I'd play him in a more advanced left sided role (more of a wide forward on the left) with D' Alessandro playing the left sided midfield role. Well, at least that's how I think LVG would do it with a 3-4-3 lineup.

[BLAUGRANA]

Oops, I almost forgot. With everyone offering up the strikers they'd like to see brought in, I guess I can do the same. While it will probably never happen (at least not anytime soon), I'd :heart: LOVE :heart: to see RUUD VAN NISTELROOY in the blaugrana shirt!

[soccer fanatic]

Very realistic, Azulgrana. :)

But I`m with you.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic
Very realistic, Azulgrana. :)



Yeah, yeah. Hey, you never know. This is football after all.

Doesn't he have a bad relationship with LVG though after LVG's time as Duth NT manager?

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


Yeah, yeah. Hey, you never know. This is football after all.

Doesn't he have a bad relationship with LVG though after LVG's time as Duth NT manager?

Yes I heard that too, you are well informed.
He will definetly not be eager to work with Van Gaal again.

[BLAUGRANA]

One more thing about D' Alessandro. I read he's going to be part of Real Madrid's Centenary celebration as he's part of the World IX squad. Another opportunity for Barca to speak with him.

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
One more thing about D' Alessandro. I read he's going to be part of Real Madrid's Centenary celebration as he's part of the World IX squad. Another opportunity for Barca to speak with him.

Here's another rumours I heard, a Conceicao/Motta swap between us and Inter. Sergio is older but does have good skill, I'm not sure about the swap, what do you think guys?

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
One more thing about D' Alessandro. I read he's going to be part of Real Madrid's Centenary celebration as he's part of the World IX squad. Another opportunity for Barca to speak with him.

[gnlvagosov]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
One more thing about D' Alessandro. I read he's going to be part of Real Madrid's Centenary celebration as he's part of the World IX squad. Another opportunity for Barca to speak with him.

Azul,
keep you hands off him!
he's JUVE's!:evil:

[Maarten]

Selling Kluivert could be a good idea.
Why?
Because he has said several times he wants to play in England. I don't know how much time he has left on his contract but he will probably not renew it. Selling him know would mean , extra money. Money we can use to buy e decent replacement. Cause you can say all you want, Kluivert has proven to Barca he is a brilliant player. But we have to think about the future and we know about Kluivert he does not want to end his career with Barca.

Buying Cisse?
I've heard he is a great player but I've never seen him play, but it is a lot of money they ask for him .

Buying Tristan?
Probably a very good idea. :-)
Because I think its about time we have a spanisch forward in the first team.

For a new defender I was looking in all the teams I know, I found

a) Metzelder
b) Stam
c) Campbell

For a forward

a) Pancaro
b) TRISTAN
c) Montella
d) Kewell

for the midfield

a) Ballack
b) Pirlo
c) Seedorf
d) Rui Costa

Nice players without a doubt, a few of them should be possible

LVG: You still got my support!!!!!!!!

[FC Barca11]

Originally posted by Maarten
Selling Kluivert could be a good idea.
Why?
Because he has said several times he wants to play in England. I don't know how much time he has left on his contract but he will probably not renew it. Selling him know would mean , extra money. Money we can use to buy e decent replacement. Cause you can say all you want, Kluivert has proven to Barca he is a brilliant player. But we have to think about the future and we know about Kluivert he does not want to end his career with Barca.

Buying Cisse?
I've heard he is a great player but I've never seen him play, but it is a lot of money they ask for him .

Buying Tristan?
Probably a very good idea. :-)
Because I think its about time we have a spanisch forward in the first team.

For a new defender I was looking in all the teams I know, I found

a) Metzelder
b) Stam
c) Campbell

For a forward

a) Pancaro
b) TRISTAN
c) Montella
d) Kewell

for the midfield

a) Ballack
b) Pirlo
c) Seedorf
d) Rui Costa

Nice players without a doubt, a few of them should be possible

LVG: You still got my support!!!!!!!!


Sorry but I doubt AC will let go of their players especially given the form they are in at the moment, and Bayern would never let Ballack leave right now.

I also don't think Kewell would be a good buy because his style of play wouldn't really suit La Liga.

If cash problems countinue in Lazio then Stam would be a possibilty, but given that we still have to deal with Mendieta, I don't know how realistic a transfer for him would be (and Mancini would be reluctant to let him go)

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by gnlvagosov


Azul,
keep you hands off him!
he's JUVE's!:evil:

You wish! :evil:


Originally posted by Maarten
Selling Kluivert could be a good idea.
Why?
Because he has said several times he wants to play in England. I don't know how much time he has left on his contract but he will probably not renew it. Selling him know would mean , extra money. Money we can use to buy e decent replacement. Cause you can say all you want, Kluivert has proven to Barca he is a brilliant player. But we have to think about the future and we know about Kluivert he does not want to end his career with Barca.


Very valid point Maarten. Welcome back BTW. I agree that we should consider selling him after this season. So long as we line up another striker to replace, I wouldn't mind. He's been a great servant to the club and I don't want to see him go, but he'll leave on a free if we don't sell him. Maarten's right, we have to think about the future.

Originally posted by Maarten

Buying Cisse?
I've heard he is a great player but I've never seen him play, but it is a lot of money they ask for him .

He would cost a lot. I don't know if I'd go after him for that kind of money. I'd rather we spent on someone else. Tristan perhaps or possibly Torres.

Originally posted by Maarten

Buying Tristan?
Probably a very good idea. :-)
Because I think its about time we have a spanisch forward in the first team.

I agree it's a good idea, especially if we were to sell Kluivert. However, the fact that he's Spanish is nice, but I wouldn't consider that to be paramount. We need quality first and foremost.

Originally posted by Maarten

For a new defender I was looking in all the teams I know, I found

a) Metzelder
b) Stam
c) Campbell

Campbell didn't come before, and he won't come now. We offered him more $$$ than the Arsehole did and he still chose them. Too bad for us.

Metzelder would be a good signing IMO. He'd be expensive though.

I'd go for Stam. He's 30, but still doing well. I'd test Lazio and see if they still need the $$$. If we could get him for 5 million pounds, I'd do it. Doubtful though.

I'd go for William Gallas. Despite Ken Bates' comments to the contrary, Chelsea need to sell. Gallas is young, good and versatile. He'd also be around 7.5 million pounds, a price I can live with.

Originally posted by Maarten

For a forward

a) Pancaro
b) TRISTAN
c) Montella
d) Kewell

Pancaro? You mean Pandiani? Or Pancaro for the defense? :confused:

Tristan is the best option on this list. I think he'd do very well at Barca and is proven in La Liga and Europe.

Montella is not in form and I don't get it. I dont' think it's due to Capello benching him this time either. He'd be expensive still and I wouldn't go for him.

Kewell? No thanks!


Originally posted by Maarten

for the midfield

a) Ballack
b) Pirlo
c) Seedorf
d) Rui Costa

We should have gone for all of these players when we had the chance. While we've never really been linked with Pirlo, we have with the others.

Our failure to go after Ballack is most frustrating. He is real quality and would have been a great signing.


Originally posted by Maarten

Nice players without a doubt, a few of them should be possible



I doubt few if any of these players are possible right now. Our current financial situation coupled with the probable price tags on these players makes them doubtful to say the least.

[gnlvagosov]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


You wish! :evil:


actually Juve has a greater chance of getting him than Barca
so...you wish!:p :evil:

[FC Barca11]

Originally posted by gnlvagosov


actually Juve has a greater chance of getting him than Barca
so...you wish!:p :evil:



BAH, Barca need him more than you do :evil: You guys have enough good wingers.....not to mention Camaronesi..

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by gnlvagosov


actually Juve has a greater chance of getting him than Barca
so...you wish!:p :evil:

That must be because we're taking Davids off your hands! :D

According to Sky, we are interested in bringing in Davids. I think he'd be too expensive for us, but you never know. It's not really known whether or not he and Lippi have repaired their fragile relationship. 7.5 million pounds or less, and I'd take him.

[Strike]

I hope so much


http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=124202&clid=178&cpid=23&title=Barca+poised+for+Davids+bid


and also that is a good Idea

http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/20021218/NOTICIA51952172.html


If this both come's true we have a really chance to win a title next season.
If we not go to segunda.

[Juan]

Davids? I really don´t think that will happen. I´ll give ya a 15% chance.

Milito? Good option, but you must hurry. Madrid are also rumored to finish his signing during Cambiasso´s wedding (don´t ask me when is that).

Riise? None chance.

Angel? Good for the bench, I doubt if he would earn a starting spot.

[FC Barca11]

Oh man, this isn't the first time i've read this story but it seems to be circulating quite heavily.

12/18/2002. Catalan TV channel TV3 announced today that FC Barcelona could be in talks with..... Romario (!) in order to sign him during the winter break.

Romario, who won the 1993/1994 Spanish Liga with Barcelona, would return to the Camp Nou on a 6 month contract. From a financial point of view the transfer would be relatively cheap one for the Azulgranas since the Brazilian forward is currently a free agent.

Barcelona have spent the whole year looking for a centre forward, with names such as Jardel, Morientes and Salas mentioned in connection with Luis Van Gaal's side.

While Romario is 36 years old, nobody can deny that he still has a passion for the game and he may just be the trick that president Joan Gaspart needs to pull out of the bag and silence his critics.



I don't know how this would really fare at Barcelona but who knows, he might just be what we need. Like the article says, he would be realitvely cheap and even though he is 36, he hasn't lost his scoring touch AT ALL. He is still one of the best scorers in the Brazilian League and is an extremely good natural finisher.

[barça]

Ah, you beat me to it, I just got a call from a friend in Brazil, yes at this late hour, telling me that the Brazilian press is saying the deal is done.

Romario back as a blaugrana for six months. I am not sure what the guy can still do, but I can't help but smile.

[Robledo]

interesting ! perhaps it's a ploy to divert all the negative attention away from LVG and Gaspart

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Robledo
interesting ! perhaps it's a ploy to divert all the negative attention away from LVG and Gaspart

Well, it's Gaspart's idea and LVG surely will want nothing to do with Romario. It'd be interesting though. If it were on a free, I'd consider it. Hell, he could sell some shirts or something. We're short on strikers as it is too. Furthermore, Kluivert and Saviola couldn't score goals on Fifa for the Playstation if they wanted to.

[BLAUGRANA]

Well, i've already given my two cents on Davids and Romario, but here goes for the rest.

Riise for Overmars would IMO beat a great deal. Riise struggling at Anfield doesn't bother me. I think the kid is very good and he could be our LB or LW. He's got a rocket for a shot too. I'd take it, but I don't think it's likely.

As regards Angel, I won't comment as I haven't a clue which Angel it is. :confused:

As for Milito, I won't comment again. I really know very little about him.

Finally, a rumour none of you have mentioned. Boca Junior's Nicolas Burdisso. I've not seen him play much, but he's been linked with a big move for some time now and sounds the real deal. We do need cover at the back too. Perhaps JRR can fill us in on him.

[BLAUGRANA]

Deportivo La Coruna supposedly are in long term debt to a sum of some 70 million euros. While club officials are saying they aren't worried, this could easily be lip service. I say if we were ever to move for Tristan, now's the time.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA

Riise for Overmars

Well, I just read that it could just be a straight transfer and no swap. Only 6 million pounds! That'd be a great deal for him IMO.

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


Well, I just read that it could just be a straight transfer and no swap. Only 6 million pounds! That'd be a great deal for him IMO.

A straight transfer would be good, I wouldnt want to see a swap as Overmars is better and is more needed for us. I like Riise but bringing a guy in like him is like bringing R.Carlos (you know what i mean) not a real defender. A real defender is needed because if we bring him in then he and Puyol will be moving up in attack leaving us with the Sevilla crisis.

I wouldnt mind seeing Mexes with us, or even Davids. I think we should really try to get Davids then our Defence wont have to worry since it will be hard for others to get past Davids in the mid. :D

[barça]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


Kluivert and Saviola couldn't score goals on Fifa for the Playstation if they wanted to.

Is that what it is, I thought it was just me and the controls! I am going to choose Romario and see if he scores some goals

[Strike]

Azerkid I agree with you, Davids and Cocu in the mid we have a Powerwall, and then Riquelme can concentrate in attack.
That's the best Idea I read today, not even Romario,thats stupid
I think.Hasselbaink to get is much better I think.


And Juan as for Davids, you give us 15%.
I've given Real 5% in Zidane Deal, and what's happened he's coming.Only money made's it all.

[soccer fanatic]

I think Riise is great and would be a fantastic asset, definetly in exchange for Overmars, who did great for Barca, but isn`t the Overmars anymore he once was. I never understood why Houllier benches him all the time.

With all respect, but aren`t we passed the Romario era?
I now he is scoring goals in Brasil as if there is no tomorrow, but common, Barca is a whole different league, literally.
He might be free transfer, but still I have major doubts.

Davids would be the best signing of all three. He can improve any team and fits Van Gaals system excellent, like stated before by Azerkid, he will take work away from the defence but also can create and lead a team too victory, by motivating them. Player you can sign blindly. :)

[Juan]

C´mon, Romario? I know Barça isn´t in their best situation ever, but that is a bit too far.

Although, if the nurse who´ll have to drive him in his wheelchair all over the pitch is a good looking one, it may be worth it for spectators :p

[hollowi]

A lot of transfer speculations around the crisis club.

That Romario deal wouldn't actually be as absurd as it sounds. He's free, and his paycheck wouldn't be huge, as he is already passing his mid-thirties :p. Of course I agree that JFH would be better but face the fact: He costs a lot more.

I'd want to keep Overmars, but I want a left back, especially now since Navarro's out for the season. So buy Riise but don't loose Overmars. 6M is nothing.

Davids then. As soccer fanatic said, he is a player you can buy blindly. Just the kind of player we need, a leader who can defend.

D'Alessandro deal is closing in, but I don't want only a squad who can be great in 2007! I wonder if there's no ambition in LvG since he seems to be buying players for the next decade. There's no time for him, he can be gone in January if there won't be wins!

Whatever they do, the most important thing is to win. Hope they do.

[Strike]

Yes I'm said from the begin we need Davids , spezialy as Cocu leave us, but I think there's..... no money left:This problem was
never in the time of Nunez, I wonder how a big club than our's
can buy so many shit and loose so many money,and with the whole money we don't get a Tristan or something, thats sad
very said, while real gets Figo, Zidane.But one thing I can say you
with this team in IMO we get at place 9 on end of the season.

and Soccerfanatic denk jej dat Davids will naar Barcelona?
Ik kan jej zegen dat ik zwijfel heb,maar in de Euro waar Davids
tegen Hiddink gezegt heeft van his zal De boer and Blind in de Kont...... wet jej nog? Wij heben hem nodig maar hij heeft ons niet nodig.Ik hoop wel eens dat hij komt.And niet Overmars oprotten.He jonge hij was geblesseerd.Hij en Davids en Kluivert en Van der Sar.Dt is mijn opstelling Wet jej wat ik miss?

Wij zijn de beste!!!! Wij zijn de beste!!!! (Van Gaal)

[Olesen10]

Bringing in Romario could maybe do the trick as he will, naturally, bring some proud memories back to the squad, and to the crowd. How can a team play well when about 50.000 "supporters" is booing the out?
Riise would be a good deal, but as Azerkid says, he's like Carlos, he can't just defend and that's what we need right now IMO.
But if we can't get any other, Riise is just fine! It's not like he's a bad defender, he's just better at attacking...

[Azerkid]

After hearing the revived talk about Davids :D I think bringing him in would be a great idea because he combines offense and defense toghether which would save money buying a defender and a midfielder (like D'Alessandro). Davids and Cocu would be winning balls in the mid in which Davids always wins and it will put less presure on our shaky D.

Davids experince would also be essential for us because since now Lucho is injured we need leadership and experince more than ever. As for his skills he has plenty of it he's great in tackling, shooting, has great speed, vision, can control the mid, and mark out any player in the game these days.

If Davids comes in the midfield then we could use Riquelme as a forward with Pat and Saviola in which we can rotate then we wont need to buy another striker. Our midfield would be Cocu, Davids, Xavi, and Overmars and Riquelme and Kluivert if in a 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 with Riquelme supporting Pat and Saviola.

Sorry about the long post. Just my ideas :D ;)

[BLAUGRANA]

We're rumoured to possibly be looking at JFH on loan. Chelsea still owe us money for Petit and Zenden.

[BLAUGRANA]

Just a couple I read about while the WSB was down.

Milito to Barca. I don't know much about him, but he's the biggest thing in Argentina right now. Bigger than D' Alessandro even from what I can tell. While I know little about him, I'd probably go for him. He's already cracked the Argie NT at 22 and many of the big clubs in Europe are after him.

Ijeh for a new striker. This guy plays in Sweden and could be our new striker. I know little about him too.

Jaap Stam still hasn't been paid by Lazio from what i've read. I think he can tear up his contract in like 20 days or something if they don't pay him. He hasn't been linked with us, but i'd take him in a heartbeat on a free transfer.

We've also been linked with Christian Ziege.

Finally, Real Madrid have been rumoured to lose interest in Chivu. NOW IS OUR CHANCE! GET HIM NOW!!!

[J R R]

theres also been a crazy rumor about vg wanting to sell riquelme :eek:

[gnlvagosov]

If he does then LVG is an idiot!

[J R R]

vg is an idiot and gaspart is a bigger one if he lets this happen
there was also a story that riquelme faked injury before the
game bulls**t imo
im not sure i believe he will be sold it doesnt make sense i
know vg didnt want him but he must see he can be good for
barca vg is either too stubborn or just too stupid, anything
is possible with gaspart and vg

in mundo deportivo it says that gaspart is considering
sponsor on barca shirts http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/

so gaspart messes up barca so bad that we may do this to
make money i doubt it would be approved but its only a matter
of time before it happens, i would hate to see it

[J R R]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA

Finally, a rumour none of you have mentioned. Boca Junior's Nicolas Burdisso. I've not seen him play much, but he's been linked with a big move for some time now and sounds the real deal. We do need cover at the back too. Perhaps JRR can fill us in on him.
well i must have missed that one
man utd were after him in august i think boca wanted $6m for
him hes one of my favourite boca players he is one of the best
defenders in arg he is class, was part of the arg u20 WC
now bianchi is officially manager he will probably make changes
i havnt heard about burdisso and barca though hope he stays with boca
milito has been linked to barca and sorin again

[BRN-313]

Originally posted by J R R

in mundo deportivo it says that gaspart is considering
sponsor on barca shirts http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/



i hope he does suggest adding sponsers to the Barca kit.

that would cause the whole of Catalonia to lynch him

:evil: :evil:

and Van Gaal i give you a :red-card:

why dont you just retire.

[Strike]

Yes, it's very sad but we haven't any money,and we must not discuss about sign new players cause we cannot.We haven't only
one million to sign someone new, so forget about Davids, and the
expensive players, and I think no one from Lazio will join us, cause we doesn't play in the champions-league next year.

Also I've heard that barca will do a swap deal Kluivert-Salas.
If that happens will trust in barca no more.

Such a shame for such a big club.........

[Juan]

Big chance to get Sorin and tie up Mendieta definitely.

Lazio´s financial situation has reached a critical point. If the players aren´t paid their debts by January 18th, they will all be able to leave on free transfers.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by Strike

and Soccerfanatic denk jej dat Davids will naar Barcelona?


Ik weet het niet, maar ben bang van niet, wat ik wel weet is dat hij en Van gaal goed overweg kunnen. Waarom het stabiele Juve verlaten voor de chaos van Barca?

[FCBBarcaAjax]

Now he is back with Benfica. What can you tell me about him?

[FCBBarcaAjax]

He would like to leave bayern at end of the season. And then Frey would come for him in Munich.

[gnlvagosov]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic
Ik weet het niet, maar ben bang van niet, wat ik wel weet is dat hij en Van gaal goed overweg kunnen. Waarom het stabiele Juve verlaten voor de chaos van Barca?

in English please:) I just saw the word Juve, so im just abit curious;)

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by gnlvagosov
in English please:) I just saw the word Juve, so im just abit curious;)

Entire post;
i don`t know, I`m afraid he won`t, what I do know is that he (Davids) and Van Gaal get along very well.

But why would he leave the secure and stabile club Juventus too become part of the chaos of Barca?

You see, I was complimenting Juve in a way. :)

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Juan
Big chance to get Sorin and tie up Mendieta definitely.



It'd depend on price. I really wouldn't be interested in either of them unless they were very cheap.

[BLAUGRANA]

Chelsea have reportedly given the green light to a JFH transfer.

[BLAUGRANA]

Just read it on Sky. GET THIS GUY NOW! Any player who's courted by the likes of Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, but would prefer us we should get (that's considering our current dire situation). He says that Independiente would only charge $10 million for him. Yes, that's US dollars. Not a bad price from what i've read. I say we get him now.

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Just read it on Sky. GET THIS GUY NOW! Any player who's courted by the likes of Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, but would prefer us we should get (that's considering our current dire situation). He says that Independiente would only charge $10 million for him. Yes, that's US dollars. Not a bad price from what i've read. I say we get him now.

I don't know about this transfer for $10mil? I think it would be a risk, I mean if teams like Real and Bayern want doesnt mean anybody can have him, both of those teams are winning and have more money than us, especially Real.

I think we should buy a player that plies his trade in Europe, because Argentinian leagues are different than those of Europe, just look at Caudet in Celta, he was highly rated in Argetinina but now in Celta is riding the bench.

BTW, what makes us sure LVG will play a youngster from Argentina who he doesnt know much about? just like Riquleme he would be on the bench.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by FCBBarcaAjax
He would like to leave bayern at end of the season. And then Frey would come for him in Munich.

No.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by FCBBarcaAjax
Now he is back with Benfica. What can you tell me about him?

He didn't fit into Rexach's plans, so he was sold. We did have an option to buy him back, but that could have expired by now.

[10]

hey everyone ,thanks for the awards but if you all wanted to give me one I should have been given the enke award-uniquely eccentric!!!
Now to serious stuff................when LVG first arrived I heralded him as nothing more than a childish whim of our joke-GASPART.........now look at the squad..............no wings,no midfield steel,leaky defence and no striking duo.............so why is gaspart still there...........................
What WE really first need to do is balance the squad(to hell with the debt if we win something the merchandise sale as well as the money too will help) so I suggest our first move be to go for D'Allessandro who is cheap and is pratically begging to come to barca because Motta ain't able and Van Der Vart has never proven himself as he did in winning the world cup!
IN midfield reinstall the big and little duo of Xavi and Rommeback as they both complement each other as well as the play maker and defence and people, let Mendieta go because he is nott worth 16m and has been a dissapointment!ALSO buy Vbommel who would be cheap now!
On the right wing either buy Quarmesa or Joaquin preferbaly Quarmesa as he only says good for Barca!
IN atttack(brace youselves) sell Patrick Kluviert because his time with us is up and whilest he's explosive for Holland he is slow for us and he should be sold for about 30m which will allow almost all transfers to go through without a hitch,as he also seems tired of Barca,and he should be replaced with Diego Tristan who is explosive and a great player being complemented by Saviola in attack,also buy the boy wonder Diego!
In defence we should have ,of course Puyol at right back bring in Juanito from real betis who has consistantly performed as one of spains best left CB with him being complemented by either Milito or Walter Samuel in defence with Raul Bravo of real madrid being brought in because you all tell me who can come close to r carlos??
IN goal my nomination would be to buy rustu!!!
IN the play maker role of course put Riquelme and also purchase Reyes as a back up for competition!
For coach bring in the master mind Carlos Bianchi who I may add defeated real's 100m dollar team with a 500,000 dollar team and has won everthing in south america there is to winwith boca!!
Sell Cocou,De bor,Geovianni,Christianvial,enke,kluviert!
Also fire Gaspart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PS-didn't post for a while because I was just looking at everyone elses views for a while, and AZ because real and Bayer are interested in a player doesn't make him good, look at Anelka!

[10]

BUY WONDER KID DIEGO OR ROBINHO THE NEW RONALDO!!!!PREFERBELY ROBINHO!

[BRN-313]

it seems like Bayren Munich are very intrested in Robinho.

[Strike]

Guys, sad new's.It looks that we loan riquelme to an swiss club
and maybe sell him at the end of the season.

buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!! :,-(

[BRN-313]

LOL @ 10

you are basically saying that you want to sell most of the team and replace them :D

and keep your hands of Raul Bravo ;)



:arrow: sad news about Riquelme,i dont like Barca but whats happening really sucks.

[gnlvagosov]

Originally posted by Strike
Guys, sad new's.It looks that we loan riquelme to an swiss club
and maybe sell him at the end of the season.

buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!! :,-(

LVG is a total idiot if this story is true!

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Strike
Guys, sad new's.It looks that we loan riquelme to an swiss club
and maybe sell him at the end of the season.

buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!! :,-(

I can't see Riquelme agreeing to a deal that would take him to a Swiss club. Furthermore, I don't see many Swiss clubs affording his salary.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by 10
BUY WONDER KID DIEGO OR ROBINHO THE NEW RONALDO!!!!PREFERBELY ROBINHO!

Well, well, well. Look what the cat dragged in. Nice to see you again 10. Or should I say LVG? :D

You wanna offer up some info on these two? I don't know too much about 'em. I've been hearing Robinho's name tossed about for quite some time, not necessarily with Barca though. Actually, I just read (i'm editing this post to put this bit in) that Robinho thinks Barca would be the right club for him. I read he'd cost 15 million pounds though! Wow, that's a lot. I would be a bit concerned though as Geo and Rochembach have been flops for us. I'm willing to give Rochembach some more time, but he still hasn't impressed.

Originally posted by 10

What WE really first need to do is balance the squad(to hell with the debt if we win something the merchandise sale as well as the money too will help) so I suggest our first move be to go for D'Allessandro who is cheap and is pratically begging to come to barca because Motta ain't able and Van Der Vart has never proven himself as he did in winning the world cup!


I agree that moving for D' Alessandro would be a wise move. Though he's still very young, he's already to an extent proven himself. He'd also be pretty cheap considering the alternatives out there.

Concerning Van Der Vaart, you're WAY WIDE OF THE MARK! VDV is IMO much more proven than D' Alessandro. He's done the business in Europe with Ajax. I ain't talking about just the Eredivisie either. He's done very well with Ajax in the CL too. He's scored so many important goals for Ajax and in very few games too. I don't have his stats available at the moment, but i'd be willing to bet he's nearly scored a goal per game this season. This kid is the real deal and I'd take him over D' Alessandro. He'd cost more though.

Originally posted by 10

IN midfield reinstall the big and little duo of Xavi and Rommeback as they both complement each other as well as the play maker and defence and people, let Mendieta go because he is nott worth 16m and has been a dissapointment!ALSO buy Vbommel who would be cheap now!


Xavi for me would be a must. I think we need to keep him and hopefully find someone who can pair with him. Davids would be nice, but I don't much stock in any rumours linking Davids with us. Rochembach i'd keep, but he still isn't ideal for me. He's not been consistent enough, but then his opportunities have been limited. As for Mendieta, we're not going to keep him. There's no way the club will pay the 16 million pounds Lazio want for him. Even if he was drastically cheaper, I think we could find a better value for money buy than Mendigol. All this Mendigol talk doesn't even consider the 3.2 million pound salary he's getting. As for van Bommel, I'm surprised you mentioned him. I think he'd be good at the right price. PSV is probably the stingiest club around though, so I don't see his price dropping.

Originally posted by 10

On the right wing either buy Quarmesa or Joaquin preferbaly Quarmesa as he only says good for Barca!

I'd opt for Quaresma too. Betis would demand a huge fee for Joaquin. We'd have to move for Quaresma quickly though.

Originally posted by 10

IN atttack(brace youselves) sell Patrick Kluviert because his time with us is up and whilest he's explosive for Holland he is slow for us and he should be sold for about 30m which will allow almost all transfers to go through without a hitch,as he also seems tired of Barca,and he should be replaced with Diego Tristan who is explosive and a great player being complemented by Saviola in attack,also buy the boy wonder Diego!

No need to brace myself. I'd like to keep Kluivert arround, but we'd need to find a suitable striking partner for him. A real goalpoacher. For me that'd be Ruud Van Nistelroy, but he'd be way too much and United surely wouldn't be interested in selling. We'd never get 30 million for Kluivert, and I mean Euros, Pounds or $$$$$. We might get 30 million rupees, but that'd be it. I think we'd do well getting 15 million pounds for him, but even that could be considered a bit high.

As for Tristan, i'd take him in a heartbeat. I'd actually like to see him partner Kluivert. I think he's attainable if you move for him now as he isn't getting much time on the pitch at Depor.

As for Saviola, I'd keep him. I'd use him as third striker depending on who brought in though. He did well off the bench for us last season. Also, he's not really doing well this season (then neither is Kluivert).

Don't know about Diego really, so I can't comment. A youngster I'd like to see us go for would be Reyes of Sevilla though. I really like this kid. I think he's a bit of a fighter.

Originally posted by 10

In defence we should have ,of course Puyol at right back bring in Juanito from real betis who has consistantly performed as one of spains best left CB with him being complemented by either Milito or Walter Samuel in defence with Raul Bravo of real madrid being brought in because you all tell me who can come close to r carlos??

Ideally, Chivu would be our #1 defensive target. Considering price tags and our needs though, I say go for Milito. He says he'd prefer us to Real and would be pretty reasonable at 6 million pounds. Actually, I just read today that he was rumoured to be going to Leeds for only 2 million pounds. Hell, even we can afford to spend 2 million pounds. Especially on a defender! :D Juanito would be nice, but again I think we'd have to shell out a lotta cash. I think Samuel would be way too much and that he'll end up at Real Madrid. Raul Bravo would be great, but we won't get him. I think Real want to hold on to this kid. I'd take him though. One defender I'd still go for is William Gallas. He's done very well with Chelsea and is very versatile. He's not a fav of mine or anything, I just think he'd help out the club.

Originally posted by 10

IN goal my nomination would be to buy rustu!!!
IN the play maker role of course put Riquelme and also purchase Reyes as a back up for competition!
For coach bring in the master mind Carlos Bianchi who I may add defeated real's 100m dollar team with a 500,000 dollar team and has won everthing in south america there is to winwith boca!!
Sell Cocou,De bor,Geovianni,Christianvial,enke,kluviert!
Also fire Gaspart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PS-didn't post for a while because I was just looking at everyone elses views for a while, and AZ because real and Bayer are interested in a player doesn't make him good, look at Anelka!

Rustu could be had on a Bosman this summer. If we get him, i'd sell Bonano. Keep Enke. He was free, is still pretty young and has potential.

As for Bianchi, he's signed with Boca again. We could still get him, but that's unlikely.

Cocu and FDB will both leave on free transfers. Can't really sell 'em. I'd sell Geo and Christanval though. Kluivert maybe and Enke no. Keep Enke.

And oh yeah, PS---Just because you havent' posted in a while doesn't mean that I haven't seen you browsing the board on a regular basis. As for Anelka, he scored some important goals for Real Madrid if my memory serves me correctly. Also, I never said that the fact that Real Madrid and Bayern Munich courting a player makes him good. What I did say was that if a player was willing to turn the likes of those two clubs down for us considering our current sad state of affairs, it shows they must have some sort of affinity for Barca. Besides, you also mentioned we should go after him. :rolleyes: Next time read my post about 5 times before you put words in my mouth.

[BLAUGRANA]

***k it. Let's just go for Aimar. He wants a pay rise that Valencia won't give him and I think we can get him for 20 million pounds. Play a 3 man defense (with new defenders other than Puyol of course) and a 5 man midfield. Something like this:



left wing--------Riquelme------------Aimar-----------------right wing

------------------------------defensive mid----------------------

[BRN-313]

how about getting Naybet. hes great.


i cant belive i just suggested a player for Barca. :annoyed:

:silly:

[Strike]

Azul forget this we can't afford Aimar, not in 100 years.
We haven't 2 millions how we get 20 millions?

Of course Aimar is also a favourite of mine, i saw him play last summer(live).

But look at this

http://www.sport.es/article.asp?id=55460

[The Rule]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
I can't see Riquelme agreeing to a deal that would take him to a Swiss club. Furthermore, I don't see many Swiss clubs affording his salary.

i've heard about this,and Barca seemingly would pay three quarters of his salary,but can some one please fill me in on the whole story??Azul??

[FC Barca11]

http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=125533&clid=178&cpid=23&title=Juve+look+to+Riquelme





Now this is too much. Absolutely too much. I have no sympathy or support for Van Gaal anymore. I always felt that changing a manager midway through the season would be terrible for the team, but the way things are going, it seems keeping Van Gaal is making it worse! If Riquelme leaves during the transfer window I giving up winning anything this year. This whole episode is turning out to be another Ronaldo fiasco. We had him for a year and he did great things, but as usual, we let him go. Now he comes back to bite us in the ass. Riquelme is an undisputed star for the future, and Van Gaal is so bloody hard headed that he doesn't or doesnt want to see it. The fact is, Barcelona are always going to have superstars whether Van Gaal likes it or not. We have always had a contingent of foreign superstars (Kubala, Zamora, Koeman, ) And his whole idea of devising a system and making the players fit into it is the biggest bunch of crap I've seen. How can you sacrifice a player's natural talents and put him into a machine you seem fit and wonder why the League results are so bad? His player management is also not something to be ruled as positive. The relationship he has with any players who can make a difference resembles that of a married couple looking for a divorce. Example, his bout with RVN during his time for Holland. Damnit, I really wish we had sacked Van Gaal and gotten Bianchi. I saw on sky sports news that he has been following every part of Barcelona from Argentina, and would probably have had no problem in getting accustomed to the squad in a few weeks. And lets not forget he would have also been working Riquelme and Saviola, who he knows very well. And if we had signed Milito, hell all the better because Bianchi would have known exaclty what to do with all of them. Oh almost forgot. Bianchi had said we'd need a left winger, a new striker and a left back after our 3rd league game, and had even suggested back then that Barcelona look at Militio. Not bad for someone who lives all the way in Argentina and yet can still see the problems of Barcelona and suggest solutions that we are now taking seriously.

[Robledo]

Barca reportedly trying to arrange a swap deal - Rafael Marquez for Phillipe Christinval. This would be a real coup ! Get this done quickly while he's still highly rated in his home country !

http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=125593&Title=Barca+eye+Marquez+swap+deal

[10]

Aimar and Van Nistelloroy are great but too settled into thier own teams and too much stars now to be bought only for mad money...................
ON VDV he isn't as proven as D'allessandro,the dutch leauge isn't as good as the argie league which provides the whole of europe with an abundance of talent.Also CL nor the dutch league can compare with the world cup which he won as a key component!!!He's way better!+
Robinho is an 18 year old striker from brazil who is extremely fast has dribbling skills like aimar with a flare of ronaldo ,deadly in front of goal and more slipperly than Saviola on the ball!
Juanito is the only good cb that is young spanish and like a wall and he and MILITTO would do grat things for barca along with Bravo who in all honesty cannot play in front of Carlos.........
Quarmesa is great too and may be a cheaper safer buy than Joaquin............
As for Kluviert he is undisputedly good but never really hit top form and a change may be good for him...............Tristan would be great ,along with Saviola in attack................
Riquelme is a player the likes of which all the italian teams crave for so let Van Gal keep on playing games...........
Have you all noticed with Riquelme that he plays better in midfield than attacker with deft touches and pinpoint passing?He may be better at home in midfield being supported by a defencisive midfield wings to give him more room and Robinho OR Saviola conecting him to TRISTAN.
---------------------------------RUSTU------------------------------------------
MILITO----------------------JUANITO------------------------------PUYOL---------------------XAVI------------------------ROMMEBACK----------------------D'ALL-------------------RIQUELME-------------------------QUARMES----------------------------------ROBINHO\Saviola----------------------------------------------------------------TRISTAN--------------------------------------------
what do you think AZ???
PS-Kluviert is a player everyone likes,even me,but he is being limited by a barca team inequiped to supply him and also he is becomming complacment knowin paly good or bad he always starts--------not Rivaldo quality,not leadership quality like Puyol!

PS-ALSO DIDN'T ANYONE THINK THAT IF OUR SAVING GRACE ,Rivaldo left because of Van Gal something was wrong?????Many a season he saved us with his magic whilest being courted by all of europe he chose the path less travelled(Figo) and stuck with us,.............................that was the first sign of a mistake being schemmed......................
NB-Bianchi is great and would be a real mastermind ,surely bringing silverware whilst VG may be lucky to even bring a 5 palce finish................................................................even though I plan to change the team isn't it needed????Who so ever says no is lying to themselves as we basically put players on the field to make up numbers.........HEY AZUL,see you finally wised up about MENDIETA.....................now we're getting somewhere!

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by 10

ON VDV he isn't as proven as D'allessandro,the dutch leauge isn't as good as the argie league which provides the whole of europe with an abundance of talent.


I disagree. Can`t give my opinion on the Argentine league, but the Dutch league isn`t the league too shop for defenders (few exceptions), but since we play attacking its a dream place for young attackers and midfielders too grow and learn. (Romario and Ronaldo for example) They didn`t chose PSV for nothing you know. You play in a good league which gives you the opportunity too expand your abilities and also allows young players too gain experience and learn from good trainers. In the CL they can gain experience on a higher level and grow above their current standards at that specific time. Nowadays the Dutch league is a little more behind, but still a good country for bigger teams from bigger leagues too do their shopping. Dutch players also play vital roles in big teams all over Europe.


Also CL nor the dutch league can compare with the world cup which he won as a key component!!!He's way better!+


Van der Vaart is a key player of Ajax for 2 years, that is more valuable than for what is it, 7 matches? VDV proved against the best teams in Europe that he can easily adapt too the fast paced play and still shined in all matches, he is a legend already, not saying this because I`m Dutch, but because it is so obvious for people who see him play on regular basis.

Sorry know this is the Barca forum, couldn`t stop myself.
So advice too BArca is get this player over a few years together with Koeman.

Perhaps nice too say is that a manager of a big football magazine told VDV is more than happy too stay with Ajax, he wants too sign a new deal and he even showed signs of wanting too stay for Ajax perhaps even longer than originally planned. Seriously.

I think he will still go in two years though, but this is what is told by the manager of the football magazine.

RVN would ofcourse never leave Man Utd for Barca, he is treated like God over there and said in the PSV flyer that he wants too sit out his contract at RVN and then return too.... .... PSV. He loves that club a lot, not weird knowing what they went through together.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Robledo
Barca reportedly trying to arrange a swap deal - Rafael Marquez for Phillipe Christinval. This would be a real coup ! Get this done quickly while he's still highly rated in his home country !

http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=125593&Title=Barca+eye+Marquez+swap+deal

I read this too. Didn't mention any cash as part of the deal though. I'd assume we'd be giving Monaco cash plus Christanval. Straight swap deal though, I say do it.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by 10
Aimar and Van Nistelloroy are great but too settled into thier own teams and too much stars now to be bought only for mad money...................

Yeah I know. I said that.

Originally posted by 10

ON VDV he isn't as proven as D'allessandro,the dutch leauge isn't as good as the argie league which provides the whole of europe with an abundance of talent.Also CL nor the dutch league can compare with the world cup which he won as a key component!!!He's way better!+

The Dutch Eredivisie is a formidable league. The Eredivisie has also provided an abundance of talent to the whole of Europe. Do the names Davids, Van Nistelroy, Stam, Van Der Saar, Overmars, Kluivert, Makaay, etc ring a bell? And what World Cup did D' Alessandro win? Musta been a youth one, which for me isn't anywhere near the level of competition in the CL.

Originally posted by 10

Robinho is an 18 year old striker from brazil who is extremely fast has dribbling skills like aimar with a flare of ronaldo ,deadly in front of goal and more slipperly than Saviola on the ball!

Thanx for the info. Have you seen him play?

Originally posted by 10

Juanito is the only good cb that is young spanish and like a wall and he and MILITTO would do grat things for barca along with Bravo who in all honesty cannot play in front of Carlos.........

All would be welcome, though Milito is at the moment the only realistic option.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by 10
[B]
Quarmesa is great too and may be a cheaper safer buy than Joaquin...........

I think he'd be cheaper. I'd take Quaresma, but he'd be at least 10 million pounds.

Originally posted by 10

As for Kluviert he is undisputedly good but never really hit top form and a change may be good for him...............Tristan would be great ,along with Saviola in attack................

I'd prefer Tristan-Kluivert upfront to Tristan-Saviola. Then you could have Saviola come off the bench if needed.

Originally posted by 10

Riquelme is a player the likes of which all the italian teams crave for so let Van Gal keep on playing games.............
Have you all noticed with Riquelme that he plays better in midfield than attacker with deft touches and pinpoint passing?He may be better at home in midfield being supported by a defencisive midfield wings to give him more room and Robinho OR Saviola conecting him to TRISTAN.
---------------------------------RUSTU------------------------------------------
MILITO----------------------JUANITO------------------------------PUYOL---------------------XAVI------------------------ROMMEBACK----------------------D'ALL-------------------RIQUELME-------------------------QUARMES----------------------------------ROBINHO\Saviola----------------------------------------------------------------TRISTAN--------------------------------------------
what do you think AZ???

Well, for starters I think any talk of offloading Riquelme is foolish. Even a loan deal is for me out of the question. He needs to keep playing. He'll come good soon. He goes, I turn my back on the current administration for good. I'm not a huge Riquelme fan (meaning he's not a fav player of mine), but he's going to be a great player. As for where JRR plays, I think behind a pair of strikers would be best. Your lineup is good though. You just need to switch D' Alessandro and Quaresma.

Originally posted by 10

PS-Kluviert is a player everyone likes,even me,but he is being limited by a barca team inequiped to supply him and also he is becomming complacment knowin paly good or bad he always starts--------not Rivaldo quality,not leadership quality like Puyol!

Agreed, but depending on who we'd replace him with, I wouldn't be so quick to sell him.

Originally posted by 10

PS-ALSO DIDN'T ANYONE THINK THAT IF OUR SAVING GRACE ,Rivaldo left because of Van Gal something was wrong?????Many a season he saved us with his magic whilest being courted by all of europe he chose the path less travelled(Figo) and stuck with us,.............................that was the first sign of a mistake being schemmed......................

Blah, blah, blah. He's gone and he isn't coming back. He woulda left this coming summer anyway. Spilled milk.

Originally posted by 10

HEY AZUL,see you finally wised up about MENDIETA.....................now we're getting somewhere!

Nice try. Mendieta isn't doing too well for us, but then I think he's being utilized improperly. Either way, that doesn't change the fact that he started out well with us which is when we used to discuss him.

[Strike]

VDV is at this age better than Seedorf was at this age.
And suerly he will be the new Cruiff, maybe better.

[yks_barca]

This thing came up today :

" FC Barcelona eye Romario for a 12 month contract "

[Juan]

What, Barça is establishing a senior citizens team?

[bletnxuzpiso]

Barcelona to offer Motta for Middlesbrough's Maccarone
- January 1, 2003

Barcelona are set to make a move for Middlesbrough striker Massimo Maccarone.
The Italian international has hinted he could quit Teesside if he spends much more time on the subs' bench this season.

Barca are considering making both a loan and a permanent transfer offer for the former Empoli youngster.

The Catalan giants are willing to offer midfielder Thiago Motta, a player that has caught Boro's attention this season, in part-exchange.
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Barcelona must find £13M to trump Real Madrid for Ajax's Chivu
- January 1, 2003

If Barcelona want to trump Real Madrid for Cristian Chivu, they must find £13 million.
The Ajax wing-back is expected to move to Real in June, but Spanish rivals Barca have also expressed an interest in the Romanian with reports suggesting president Joan Gaspart is attempting to explore a way to bring Chivu to the Nou Camp in January.

However, Ajax are determined to hold onto Chivu until the end of the season - meaning the only way Barca can sign the player is to pay his buyout clause, £l3

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by bletnxuzpiso

Barcelona must find £13M to trump Real Madrid for Ajax's Chivu
- January 1, 2003

If Barcelona want to trump Real Madrid for Cristian Chivu, they must find £13 million.
The Ajax wing-back is expected to move to Real in June, but Spanish rivals Barca have also expressed an interest in the Romanian with reports suggesting president Joan Gaspart is attempting to explore a way to bring Chivu to the Nou Camp in January.

However, Ajax are determined to hold onto Chivu until the end of the season - meaning the only way Barca can sign the player is to pay his buyout clause, £l3

WOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOO!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Could our prayers have been answered? Could JG and LVG have given themselves New Year's resolutions to pull their heads outta their arses? WHO CARES! All I care about is Chivu coming to Barca!!! GET HIM AT ALL COSTS!!!

BTW, the article I read had FDB going in the opposite direction as part of the deal. Then again, I also read that Ajax won't negotiate and that anyone who wants him will have to pay his buyout clause. The latter seems more likely as FDB can leave on a free in the summer.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by bletnxuzpiso
Barcelona to offer Motta for Middlesbrough's Maccarone
- January 1, 2003

Barcelona are set to make a move for Middlesbrough striker Massimo Maccarone.
The Italian international has hinted he could quit Teesside if he spends much more time on the subs' bench this season.

Barca are considering making both a loan and a permanent transfer offer for the former Empoli youngster.

The Catalan giants are willing to offer midfielder Thiago Motta, a player that has caught Boro's attention this season, in part-exchange.


Maccarone for Motta straight up would be a good deal. I wonder how much cash they'd want though.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
WOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOO!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Could our prayers have been answered? Could JG and LVG have given themselves New Year's resolutions to pull their heads outta their arses? WHO CARES! All I care about is Chivu coming to Barca!!! GET HIM AT ALL COSTS!!!


We have to hurry though if we (Barca) want too buy Chivu from us (Ajax) before they (Real) snatch him (Chivu) away.

I thought you were in these days a bigger LVG fanboy than I :D, but I think it should be clear LVG wanted too get his hands on Chivu all the time. :)

Good chance is Koeman will give him some "fair advice" where to go. He will work soon in Barcelona and I think he would like having Chivu in defence. He does know. :) Too bad is advisor and friend Hagi seems more keen on making him join Real Madrid. But that was before Barca clearly expressed interest.


BTW, the article I read had FDB going in the opposite direction as part of the deal. Then again, I also read that Ajax won't negotiate and that anyone who wants him will have to pay his buyout clause. The latter seems more likely as FDB can leave on a free in the summer.

You know I`m a fan of Barca (Well you don`t according too the awards thread. :D), but I think 13 million is very cheap for a player like Chivu, you can`t think Ajax will pay up for FDB, he is lucky he can join us. I must say though I`m getting more happy he will join Ajax.

Stupid too let Chivu have a buy out clause that low. Probably only way he wanted too sign the contract. Shows his love for Ajax. :(

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Maccarone for Motta straight up would be a good deal. I wonder how much cash they'd want though.

Did Maccarone impress you?

I mean, he could do better playing in a better (I hope) team, but I think we only should buy players who we are sure off too improve the squad, Necessity buys almost never work, we should be patient and wait for a real good deal which makes the team better or spend as much as possible on a "certain money worthy" deal. No risks, we won`t get back too being a healthy ANd succesfull club by making decisions too much based on panic.

Even though it is a swap, I don`t think Maccarone can improve Barca enough too make him a worthy deal.

Get Chivu Davids and a good striker like Makaay orTristan but not a more or less gamble.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic
Did Maccarone impress you?

I mean, he could do better playing in a better (I hope) team, but I think we only should buy players who we are sure off too improve the squad, Necessity buys almost never work, we should be patient and wait for a real good deal which makes the team better or spend as much as possible on a "certain money worthy" deal. No risks, we won`t get back too being a healthy ANd succesfull club by making decisions too much based on panic.

Even though it is a swap, I don`t think Maccarone can improve Barca enough too make him a worthy deal.

Get Chivu Davids and a good striker like Makaay orTristan but not a more or less gamble.

I would only take Maccarone in a straight swap for Motta.

Chivu, Davids and Tristan would be nice. I'll settle for Chivu and JFH on loan 'til the end (or just for the 5 million or so pounds that Chelsea owe us for Zenden and Petit) of the season for now. It's more realistic.

[BLAUGRANA]

Geovanni has been linked with a loan move to Benfica. I say we loan him out and then swap him for Simao in the summer.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
I would only take Maccarone in a straight swap for Motta.

Chivu, Davids and Tristan would be nice. I'll settle for Chivu and JFH on loan 'til the end (or just for the 5 million or so pounds that Chelsea owe us for Zenden and Petit) of the season for now. It's more realistic.

But is Maccarone good enough for Barca in your opinion.
I don`t think he is, why not just sell Motta then?
I mean, if Maccarone isn`t an improvement, we shouldn`t take him, that is exactly the way of leading a team which will not get back too shape. Look at Ajax a few years back and Feyenoord within a few years. :D

If Chelsea would agree, that would be great. JFH wouldn`t be my ideal option, but on loan would be great for the year, if he is good we buy him, if not we don`t. JFH isn`t getting younger and with Chelsea he isn`t exactly on his best level of play right now.

How about Gudjohnsson? Don`t you think he is better than JFH?
What would you prefer, a pure goalgetter or a player who can actually controll a ball and score some goals? I doubt if JFH will perform good in the Spanish league. I think Gudjohnsson could become a real goalscorer too with the right people surrounding him.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic


How about Gudjohnsson? Don`t you think he is better than JFH?
What would you prefer, a pure goalgetter or a player who can actually controll a ball and score some goals? I doubt if JFH will perform good in the Spanish league. I think Gudjohnsson could become a real goalscorer too with the right people surrounding him.

Did you not see JFH play when he was with Atletico Madrid? Haven't you seen him play with Chelsea? He's doing fine with Chelsea IMO. He's not getting a good run of games with them this season. As for goals, he's got more than Gudjohnsson and his goalscoring exploits speak for themselves.

[lili]

He, you two - fingers back from Chivu!

:smoking: :evil: :D ;)

[bletnxuzpiso]

David Trezeguet, the reinforcement that wants Go Gaal

Riquelme would be able to enter the operation

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Did you not see JFH play when he was with Atletico Madrid? Haven't you seen him play with Chelsea? He's doing fine with Chelsea IMO. He's not getting a good run of games with them this season. As for goals, he's got more than Gudjohnsson and his goalscoring exploits speak for themselves.

I saw plenty of JFH, and he isn`t that good, he can shoot hard and is strong with his body, but his technical skills aren`t much and it is proven now in the EPL he can easily be made invisible in a match by good defenders. I don`t think JFH has got what it takes anymore too be good enough for Barca. All the matches I saw of him, both with Chelsea and the Dutch NT, weren`t of such standard too get worked up.

He scores maybe more but also plays more, add too that PK and also count assists and age and I think Gudjohnsson would come out as the better option.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by lili
He, you two - fingers back from Chivu!

:smoking: :evil: :D ;)

:D:D:D Not feeling groovy today? :D:D:D
You already bought a Madrid shirt weith his name? ;)

[soccer fanatic]

Trezeguet would be amazing. I choose him.

[Olesen10]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
WOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOO!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Could our prayers have been answered? Could JG and LVG have given themselves New Year's resolutions to pull their heads outta their arses? WHO CARES! All I care about is Chivu coming to Barca!!! GET HIM AT ALL COSTS!!!

BTW, the article I read had FDB going in the opposite direction as part of the deal. Then again, I also read that Ajax won't negotiate and that anyone who wants him will have to pay his buyout clause. The latter seems more likely as FDB can leave on a free in the summer.

Yay us ! (Buffyspeak) :D

Let's get Chivu now and get back on track!

[lili]

You don't have the money to buy Chivu- what a luck. Beside of this, which player says "No" when Madrid is interesting?:D ;)
Vincente will get him, not just cause he's one of the best, but also he can't allow our big enemies take him.:p :evil: ;)

SF, shall I buy a VDV shirt for you, when I'll go there in autumn this year?:D ;)

[Juan]

And this comes when Valdano and Flo are supposedly losing interest in Chivu. Samuel now seems to be the objective at the Bernabeu, so who knows? your path may be clear.