2002/2003 FC Barcelona Official Transfers and Transfer Rumours Thread

[jscho]

WoW...D' Alessandro in Jan, are you sure? Let say it will take Riquelme and D'Alessandro to get adapted to European football in half a season, add a strong defender (Chivu or Mexes) and next year Barca would be something!!!!! :shocked:

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by jscho
WoW...D' Alessandro in Jan, are you sure?

Nah, I just read it from another poster who failed to reveal his sources. The whole Salas-Barca-River-Juve thing seems to be in motion. Whether it's just wheels spinning or something else is yet to be seen.

[jscho]

But I think Barca will get D' Alessandro though. His case is not dissimiliar to Riquelme's. Riquelme has stated he wanted to play for Barca and for I think 2 season he hold out and his club have to sell him to Barca cheap. Now D'Aessandro is coming out saying that he would love to play for Barca and his club do need the money! The old fox at Barca are using the the 'we want him, we want him not' trick to get his price lower, IMO.

So I think next season I will be able to see 3 of my favourite players (Riquelme, D'Alessandro and Mendieta) playing together :drool:, although not for my team :depressed:

[funky6]

Can anybody tell me what kind of player this D'alessandro guy is?I mean can he play in Navarro's position or he's a natural midfielder?Is he good?Would you guys prefer him over chivu for example?:confused::confused:

So we get this guy,then aimar and then Argies call us Argentina 2:D:D.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by funky6
Can anybody tell me what kind of player this D'alessandro guy is?I mean can he play in Navarro's position or he's a natural midfielder?Is he good?Would you guys prefer him over chivu for example?:confused::confused:

Chivu is al you need.

So we get this guy,then aimar and then Argies call us Argentina 2:D:D.

:D:D:D Any improvement is good isn`t it?

[funky6]

Any improvement is good isn`t it?

Yeah,first it's a "club" 2,then it's a"nation'' 2 and then what?''Zeus football team 2'' perhaps?Too bad we can't buy any players from there!:D

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by funky6
Can anybody tell me what kind of player this D'alessandro guy is?I mean can he play in Navarro's position or he's a natural midfielder?Is he good?Would you guys prefer him over chivu for example?:confused::confused:

So we get this guy,then aimar and then Argies call us Argentina 2:D:D.

Nice location there Funky. D' Alessandro is a midfielder who is very creative. He plays out on the left or behind the strikers, but out on the left is where he'd play at Barca. I've seen him play a few times for short periods of time. He's very skillful.

[BLAUGRANA]

He's been officially transfer listed by the club. I don't mind as I want to see Chivu and others at the club instead. I just hope we get what we paid for him or close to it.

[funky6]

I don't know what to say about Christannval's case.Perhaps he should be given a one year more chance.He's shown some great skill especially in one on one defence and he's good when the ball is in the air but he's done some really stupid mistakes in serious games that can only be compared with Reiziger's.

I think his problem is mainly psychological but i'm really bored of waiting for lads to realise what it means to wear the Barça jersey.Besides i think that Barça give him a lot of money so it would be good to get rid of his contract.If we sell him i think he must be the first of a quite big list.(Reiziger,Geovanni,perhaps Danny,Gerrhard etc....)

[FCBBarcaAjax]

Barca should sell Kluivert to England, they would get at least 15m, swoop with Real Puyol for Helguera, real pays Barca 5m extra,then you have a bounch of players as Motta and so on. I havent never realy seen playing good. If Van Gaal isn´t prepaired to give Riquelme a chance, they could change Riquelme for Coco porheaps. And teh last thing, Why doesnt Barca buys Morientes(replacement for Kluivert),...

In every case they should buy Chivu(but not more then 10m),eventhal he is worth it,...

[FCBBarcaAjax]

Barca could buy Schneider, last year at Leverkusen he had a fantastic year(if Inter doesnt get him before),...
So their midlefield line would be fantasticlj strong,...

[funky6]

swoop with Real Puyol for Helguera, real pays Barca 5m extra,then you have a bounch of players as Motta and so on. I havent never realy seen playing good. If Van Gaal isn´t prepaired to give Riquelme a chance, they could change Riquelme for Coco porheaps. And teh last thing, Why doesnt Barca buys Morientes(replacement for Kluivert),...

.......

[jscho]

Huh??? :confused: Puyol for Helguera, Riquelme for Coco, wait a minute, why not swap with Valencia instead? Puyol for Curro Torres and Riquelme for Kily? I'm being generous here :D

[GlasgowRanger]

any truth in this rumor Barca fans?

http://www.rangers.co.uk/today/view/breaking_news_detail/0,,5~291859,00.html

if so , do you think he'd be a good signing for Rangers?

[Juan]

I think it´s very true. And Christanval may be headed to England, I read a planetfootball.

And selling Kluivert, and swapping Puyol and Riquelme? Why not give them to Madrid for free then????

[BLAUGRANA]

Dani could be loaned out to Gers. Gers are short in that department and would probably be willing to take him. Also, Dani would probably be interested as he is not really getting any playing time.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by GlasgowRanger
any truth in this rumor Barca fans?

http://www.rangers.co.uk/today/view/breaking_news_detail/0,,5~291859,00.html

if so , do you think he'd be a good signing for Rangers?

I think it's a pretty valid rumour. I also think he'd do well at Rangers. He has been oft injured for Barca though, and hasn't really had a chance to show his stuff. However, he was very good with Mallorca before he came to Barca and if he rediscovers that form you'd be very pleased. Just don't get used to Arteta though. We want him back!!! :D

BTW, welcome to the WSB! :D

[Juan]

Cocu leaving the club at the end of the season is almost a certainty.

And the permanent Mendieta transfer is getting hard to accomplish. Lazio want 30 million euros for him, a number Barça can´t meet. They proposed a part-exchange deal, including Reiziger, Christanval, Gerard, Geovanni and/or Dani (not so sure about him), but Mancini doesn´t want any of those players, and is only mildly interested in Rochemback.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Juan
Cocu leaving the club at the end of the season is almost a certainty.

And the permanent Mendieta transfer is getting hard to accomplish. Lazio want 30 million euros for him, a number Barça can´t meet. They proposed a part-exchange deal, including Reiziger, Christanval, Gerard, Geovanni and/or Dani (not so sure about him), but Mancini doesn´t want any of those players, and is only mildly interested in Rochemback.

It will be sad to see Cocu go. He's been a great servant to the club and I think one of the more popular Dutch Players at the club.

I don't think we should pay 30 million euros. For me, 15 million euros is a fair price. Who else is going to buy him? Lazio pretty have no option but to drop their valuation. I'd give up Rochembach to get Mendieta without thinking twice.

[Juan]

Yeah, I also think 30 million is too much.

[FCBBarcaAjax]

Rumours have been, ybout Haselbaink leaving Chealsea and going to Barca?

Why Kluivert, some time ago(not more than 6 months) i red he isn´t happy in Catalunya and he wants away, and because Barca is in big debt, I think they could sell him,...

Why doesnt Barca buys Fernando Torres- 19-yearlow Spainer, I think he´ s at Atletico Madrid now.

By the way, congradulations for Kluiverts hatrick!

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


It will be sad to see Cocu go. He's been a great servant to the club and I think one of the more popular Dutch Players at the club.

I don't think we should pay 30 million euros. For me, 15 million euros is a fair price. Who else is going to buy him? Lazio pretty have no option but to drop their valuation. I'd give up Rochembach to get Mendieta without thinking twice.

Cocu said more than once that he wanted to go back to PSV one day. Just like you Azulgrana, I`m incredibly greatfull for what he did for Barca, always loyal and hard working, doesn`t complain if you ask him to play on another position, he is great.

15 million does seem more right. He didn`t play much lately, he still has the quality he always had, but paying 30 million for a player who was benched at his club is a little bit much. A Mendieta inform is worth 30 million ofcourse.

[funky6]

I don't think that Lazio will persist for 30 millions especially if Menieta doesn't have a superb season.I believe they will drop their valuation.Rochemback 4 Mendieta is smthin i don't wanna think about it.He's too young and skillful and i'm really bored of Barça "destroying" young players.We really have a tradition in not developping youngsters skills and i don't like that at all.i really wanna see atleast one of Geovanni,Motta,Rochemback or Christanvall stick in our club

Do you think of anyone that could replace cocu in our midfield?:confused:

[Bier]

I as well want to keep Rochemback ... he's a fighter, we don't have too many players with that spirit.
As for Cocu ... I hardly see anybody who could be as effective as him. :eek:

[Strike]

What is now with him? I have read today some news about him
and 11 millions euros. But it's at Sport.es and its spain i can't translate it. If the make so much romour at him they should try to sign him and it's off the table.Yeah this with cocu is bad... but i've read maybe he stay's for one year ago ( I hope so) but if he doesn't I must say the only man I new in moment how can replace
him is ...... Davids. But 1. Does he become good in the Team? 2. Have we the option to sign him or the money? 3. Does he wan't to come here? So I think the option Davids is impossible, but
he is the perfect man at this position I think what did you guys
over?....

[relejado]

which position would d'allessandro play ?

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by relejado
which position would d'allessandro play ?

He'd probably play out on the left. He can also play behind the strikers too, but we have Lucho and Riquelme for that.

[catg]

Isn't Barca up to the foreigners ceiling already ??
Who are they going to sell ?? And on top of that, sell a player
you don't want during the Winter transfer window is more difficult.

[FC Barca11]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


It will be sad to see Cocu go. He's been a great servant to the club and I think one of the more popular Dutch Players at the club.

I don't think we should pay 30 million euros. For me, 15 million euros is a fair price. Who else is going to buy him? Lazio pretty have no option but to drop their valuation. I'd give up Rochembach to get Mendieta without thinking twice.

Actually, Inter and especially Cuper, are both very very very interested in Mendieta. Gazzelta del Sport reported that Moratti is going to be meeting with Cragnotti to discuss the possible transfer of Mendieta. And with the sale of Ronaldo, I don't think Inter will have a problem forking up 30 million euros.

On the subject of Rochemback. Personally he's our "Davids" in the sense that he is tremendously ferocious when trying to get the ball. Remember the goal Varela scored against us, and how he ran past 4 defenders??? Had Rochemback been on, I don't think he would have...

[10]

All Barca really need now seeing Riquelme,Gerrard,Saviola,Inesta,Rommeback,Puyol,Kluviert are playing well is truly to get two wingers and two defenders and get rid of the excess likeMENDIETA,Geovianni,Enke ect...........
My picks-D'allessandro, and J
D-Chivu and Samuel
M-Ibramovich and Papa bouba dioup!!
Cause our team is young and talented and need 2 defenders and wingers to complete it along with some depth in the striking department as well as midfield cover for Xavi and Rommeback OUR bulldog!!!!!!!!!

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by FC Barca11


Actually, Inter and especially Cuper, are both very very very interested in Mendieta. Gazzelta del Sport reported that Moratti is going to be meeting with Cragnotti to discuss the possible transfer of Mendieta. And with the sale of Ronaldo, I don't think Inter will have a problem forking up 30 million euros.

On the subject of Rochemback. Personally he's our "Davids" in the sense that he is tremendously ferocious when trying to get the ball. Remember the goal Varela scored against us, and how he ran past 4 defenders??? Had Rochemback been on, I don't think he would have...

Yeah, it looks like Inter really want him. It'll be interesting to see how that situation develops though. While I can see Mendieta perhaps being interested in re-uniting with Cuper, I know he's said he doesn't want to return to Serie A. He's enjoying his time at Barca from what I can tell and playing well to boot. I hope his price tag is lowered and we can find a way to keep him.

I wouldn't mind keeping Rochembach around longer. I'm as supportive of him as many other Barca fans are, but he's not bad by any means. He has some maturing on and off the field to do from what I can tell, but then so did Kluivert. Geovanne on the other hand (I like to lump the two Brazilians together) needs to be sold!

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by 10
All Barca really need now seeing Riquelme,Gerrard,Saviola,Inesta,Rommeback,Puyol,Kluviert are playing well is truly to get two wingers and two defenders and get rid of the excess likeMENDIETA,Geovianni,Enke ect...........
My picks-D'allessandro, and J
D-Chivu and Samuel
M-Ibramovich and Papa bouba dioup!!
Cause our team is young and talented and need 2 defenders and wingers to complete it along with some depth in the striking department as well as midfield cover for Xavi and Rommeback OUR bulldog!!!!!!!!!

I won' t even go into Mendieta as my previous post (not to mention the others i've done in the past) make my stance on him quite clear. As for Enke, I think we should keep him. Why sell him? He kept a clean sheet today and is a very highly rated young player. He was free too. He's not been given nearly enough time nor chances to prove his worth. Geovanne on the other hand needs to be sold.

D' Alessandro would be nice and is IMO a very likely and uttainable target. J i'm assuming is Joaquin. If so, good luck. Ibrahimovich is a striker and not a mid, but I think he's gonna be a great one. Dioup will probably end up at Man Utd. We need 2 defenders though as you've said and we'd all LOVE to see Chivu. Samuel would be nice too, but what about Ivan Cordoba? I think Inter are willing to sell him. For me, it'd depend on his price tag. I think he's a good and versatile defender though. Oh yeah, Monaco are considering finally selling Marquez if they get the right offer. Not too high on my wish list, but higher on the reasonable list.

[FCBBarcaAjax]

In attack, porheaps Kežman, ewnthaal I dont realy like him,...

Have you consider borowing Trochowski from Bayern, he said he would love to play one day for Barca?

What about Berbatov, he´s realy good, and Lucio also, and Bayer L. would be mad, not selling him without any money request instead,...

[FCBBarcaAjax]

Whay doesnt Barca buys Guardiola, I thing he´s still a good player,...

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by FCBBarcaAjax
Whay doesnt Barca buys Guardiola, I thing he´s still a good player,...

He left Barca so he could experience football outside of Spain and Barca. I think he probably regrets it a bit though as he's not had a great time away. He did well for Brescia, but the whole doping scandal and now the lack of playing time at Roma weren't bright spots. I hope he'll return to the club in some capacity some day, but I doubt he'll ever play for us again. If we did really want him back, we wouldn't have to buy him. He'd be available on a free transfer next summer, just like he was this past summer.

[Strike]

I know that Barca have financielle not the best cards but in case chivu we should try to sign him anyway, because he is an high
ratet player and we must go once a little bigger bit to sign him.But
he bring us all back that we paid in him.

[Strike]

VG wants a new striker. Guys what do you think about Recoba.
I've read that Inter would sell him anyway. I know not many
about him but I think he still is not bad.

[Juan]

I don´t think Inter will actually sell Recoba. And even if they did, what Barça needs is more of a striker. Kezman is a nice idea for them.

[FCBBarcaAjax]

Why not buy Mendieta, for lower than 10m, sell him more than 15m to Inter, or switch with Inter for Recoba, have you consider that.

By the way, Roskies contract with Borussia Drtmund expires in 2004 or 05, have you consider him, he´s perfect,...

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Juan
I don´t think Inter will actually sell Recoba. And even if they did, what Barça needs is more of a striker. Kezman is a nice idea for them.

Not too keen on either. Being an Inter fan, Recoba has been frustrating more than anything else with his inconsistent form, wage demands and the whole fake passport scandal. I think he would do well at Barca, but not my #1 choice.

Kezman's alright, but I don't know how well he'd do in Spain. He said last season that his dream was to someday play for Barca though. I just don't see him displacing either Kluivert or Saviola.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by FCBBarcaAjax
Why not buy Mendieta, for lower than 10m, sell him more than 15m to Inter, or switch with Inter for Recoba, have you consider that.

By the way, Roskies contract with Borussia Drtmund expires in 2004 or 05, have you consider him, he´s perfect,...

While your Mendieta idea isn't bad, it's VERY unrealistic. I HIGHLY doubt Inter would pay 50% more for Mendieta than we would shortly after we bought him.

Rosicky would be a great buy, but he'd cost fortune. Also, he's more of a playmaker like JRR and with JRR we don't necessarily need him. He'd be nice to have either way, but it's unlikely.

[BLAUGRANA]

Dani could leave in December/January. Gers and Boro are reportedly interested.

[Strike]

I agree with Kezman, cause than can kluivert play a liitle bit behind the strikers an Kezman will be the frontman. But remember
PSV people are expensive.

[relejado]

why not keeping the team together for a while. thats what the last CL-winners did. Manchester United, Bayern munich, Real madrid. they all built a team and not changed it every half season. we rather sell some players like geovanni,dani and maybee loan out cristanval and keep the monney, no?

beeing the club with the most, different players in it, pays us shit!
we need to get some respect back in europe and finally win some titles !!!!!

[soccer fanatic]

I agree with you, relejado, only thing we just have to do is get some good defenders. At least one. We definetly not need Kezman, he is not that good. Perhaps in the DL he does well, but in the CL he is pretty lousy. I do respect him for his workrate, but that is not enough to play for Barca, in my humble opinion.

And indeed, Kezman will cost a lot. First have the whole squad on a good level, than look further, defence is first to improve. We need an new young leader for defence, I think we all know who.

[funky6]

Ofcourse LVG must work upon a model with certain players.And it's also true that we have changed our system many times.

It's unbeliavable how many players have come and gone in the last years.Simao,Alfonso,Zenden,Reina,Dutruel,Petit...the list can grow really big.But i don't think that a decent central defender or a guy like chivu or a heavy striker would be bad for the team's solidarity

.Still it makes me mad how much money has Barça spent in semi-stars,starlets,young ''talents"etc in the last 4-5 yearsor more.
We got plenty of them in our squad at the time IMO.

[relejado]

yes I agree, we ned maybe one or two players. as soon as we get a good defender as better it is. isn't chivu injured now ? because we don't need another overmars/andersson-drama.
but a top european defender would be perfect.

we should spend our monney to keep the good players like puyol,mendieta, lucho (when does his contract expire?)

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by relejado
isn't chivu injured now ?

No, but he is suspended both in Europe and in Holland.

[relejado]

when does his contract expire ?

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Strike
But remember
PSV people are expensive.

No kidding. When the whole RVN to Man Utd saga went on for a year or so, the PSV president kept moaning the whole time as though they were losing him on a free.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by soccer fanatic
I agree with you, relejado, only thing we just have to do is get some good defenders. At least one. We definetly not need Kezman, he is not that good. Perhaps in the DL he does well, but in the CL he is pretty lousy. I do respect him for his workrate, but that is not enough to play for Barca, in my humble opinion.

And indeed, Kezman will cost a lot. First have the whole squad on a good level, than look further, defence is first to improve. We need an new young leader for defence, I think we all know who.

I for one think we need a bit more reinforcement other than just in defense. I don't think wholesale changes need to be made, but a few more than just in defense.

Also, we have a young leader for the defense. Puyol is the man in terms of defense and while I want Chivu at Barca more than any other player (Joaquin being a possible exception), I'd take Puyol over Chivu any and every time.

[BLAUGRANA]

I think LVG will slow down the transfer merry-go-round that has occurred since his absence. Then considering the financial situation at the club, the transfer merry-go-round will stop regardless of LVG.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by funky6


.Still it makes me mad how much money has Barça spent in semi-stars,starlets,young ''talents"etc in the last 4-5 yearsor more.
We got plenty of them in our squad at the time IMO.

IMO, last 2 years is more the case.

[BLAUGRANA]

Two players were linked with Barca today. One is Rizak Pimpong of FC MIDTJYLLAND. I know nothing of the player or even what country that club is in. It sounds Scandinavian, but the article was pretty vague. The player says his dream is to play for Barca.

AS Monaco's Patrice Evra has said he snubbed the chance to join Barca. He's a midfielder from what I can tell, but he pretty much said he was content at Monaco. He's 21.

If anyone has any info on these guys, it'd be helpful.

[Strike]

Guys we need a striker when dani goes out and Alfonso maybe next year get taking over from betis from his loan. If it is so
we need one. And Chivu

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Two players were linked with Barca today. One is Rizak Pimpong of FC MIDTJYLLAND. I know nothing of the player or even what country that club is in. It sounds Scandinavian, but the article was pretty vague. The player says his dream is to play for Barca.


Isn`t that the team Anderlecht played against in the UEFA CUP?
If it is, its a Danish team, perhaps you could ask for help on the scandinavian forum.

[Olesen10]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Two players were linked with Barca today. One is Rizak Pimpong of FC MIDTJYLLAND. I know nothing of the player or even what country that club is in. It sounds Scandinavian, but the article was pretty vague. The player says his dream is to play for Barca.

AS Monaco's Patrice Evra has said he snubbed the chance to join Barca. He's a midfielder from what I can tell, but he pretty much said he was content at Monaco. He's 21.

If anyone has any info on these guys, it'd be helpful.

It's a Danish team as soccer fanatic pointed out. Since I'm from Denmark I should know this stuff, but the fact is that I'm not much of a Danish or Scandivian league fan, though I know which team who's in the Danish league.

I've done some research, and I've found out that the player Zul' mentioned is an attacker from Ghana who plays in FC Midtjylland. He's twenty years old and a fan of Pat Kluivert. He is said to be fast with great shots and moves.
Here's a pic of him:
http://www.onside.dk/main/playerpic.phtml?playerid=518

[FCBBarcaAjax]

What about Midu, he has done well at Parma!

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by Olesen10

He's twenty years old and a fan of Pat Kluivert.

He sounds like a good buy to me. :)

[Azerkid]

I think we shouldnt rush into transfers and keep this same squad for a few years, and instead look into our youth system to bring in young players and actuallly playing them in league games ( bit risky but can also be success) or look into other teams youth systems where we could buy next generation stars for almost nothing.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by relejado
when does his contract expire ?

2006. Smart move of Ajax.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA

No kidding. When the whole RVN to Man Utd saga went on for a year or so, the PSV president kept moaning the whole time as though they were losing him on a free.

I don`t like PSV, but they did spend an awful lot on both RVN salary and his recovery.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by FCBBarcaAjax
What about Midu, he has done well at Parma!

I assume you mean Mutu.

[BLAUGRANA]

Joaquin supposedly feels underappreciated at Betis based on their latest contract offer. I sure hope Barca are monitoring this situation.

[FCBBarcaAjax]

Yeah, sory, I was meaning Mutu. I think he would be a buy for the future. He´s twenty(-one), and al´ready now very good. Juventus is also chasing him. Mybe let free hand to Juventus, so they can buy him cheeper, and you can buy of Davids then mouch cheeper,...

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by FCBBarcaAjax
Yeah, sory, I was meaning Mutu. I think he would be a buy for the future. He´s twenty(-one), and al´ready now very good. Juventus is also chasing him. Mybe let free hand to Juventus, so they can buy him cheeper, and you can buy of Davids then mouch cheeper,...

Forget Davids and Mutu. Joaquin is making waves at Betis and Chivu will be eventually be leaving Ajax. I say go for those two if you can get em.

[Strike]

I must say I didn't hope we sign him cause as such as arrogant
as he is he could be a part of real. I don't really like this player
Van der vaart is worth 10 of him.Go well for Chivu he becomes
one day the best defender on earth.

[gnlvagosov]

Go for Joaquin only if you intend to play him not put him on the bench! he's still a youngster and is developing quite well, Chivu? I think he's going to Italy...

[jscho]

Do you really want a player that moan and groan everytime he think he is not value enough monetarily? I thought you have enough of those by now!

Just a thought on chivu : Height - Puyol is 1.78, Chivu 1.76, not sure about Navarro but i think no much taller than Puyol, and in VG 3 men defense, wouldn't your backline look slightly short.......? Can they cope with corners, set pieces etc.....

cheers

[gnlvagosov]

It doesn't matter his height, he's still excellent

[jscho]

He is indeed a great player, I watch a few times. Remind me a lot like Puyol.

cheers

[gnlvagosov]

Where does Cosmin Contra play btw? anyone?

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by gnlvagosov
Where does Cosmin Contra play btw? anyone?

Atletico Madrid.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Strike
I don't really like this player
Van der vaart is worth 10 of him.

Not really. Whether you like Joaquin or not, he's a great player. I don't like a lot of players that are good.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by jscho
Do you really want a player that moan and groan everytime he think he is not value enough monetarily? I thought you have enough of those by now!



Currently? Like who? Puyol has said he's not pleased with the deal they've offered him, but then he's every bit justified as the deals Barca have offered him are derisory. I don't have the numbers, but i'm sure Betis are not giving Joaquin what he deserves.


Originally posted by jscho

Just a thought on chivu : Height - Puyol is 1.78, Chivu 1.76, not sure about Navarro but i think no much taller than Puyol, and in VG 3 men defense, wouldn't your backline look slightly short.......? Can they cope with corners, set pieces etc.....

cheers

I wouldn't necessarily consider Navarro in that equation as I would like to see him more as someone who comes off the bench. Ideally we'd bring in Chivu and ANOTHER defender. $$$ would be a factor though. Besides, it's not like our defense is tall.

[Juan]

If you really want Contra, I don´t think Milan (the owners of transfer rights) will bring much opposition. That is, if you definitely want Puyol as CB

[jscho]

I'm talking more about Figo and Rivaldo, Figo left cos he thinks he is not value in Barca, Rivaldo as far as I have read is always talking about his contract. Puyol, I think is of a different class. Although I think he is grossly underpaid, he doesn't make too much of it instead leave it to his agent to do their job. Also, he has at a number of times say he wants to stay. And even though, he is underpaid, he give his all in every game I have seen him played. Joaquin's performance, on the other hand, has its up and down. Just my opinion.

cheers

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Juan
If you really want Contra, I don´t think Milan (the owners of transfer rights) will bring much opposition. That is, if you definitely want Puyol as CB

I wouldn't want Contra, unless the price was right. :D

[Azerkid]

Contra is like R. Carlos, how is he going to contribute to our defence? We need defenders like Ferdinand, Hyypia, Cannavro, Puyol,and etc, that are not vulnerable and can organize the defence well and are hard to break down.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Azerkid
Contra is like R. Carlos, how is he going to contribute to our defence? We need defenders like Ferdinand, Hyypia, Cannavro, Puyol,and etc, that are not vulnerable and can organize the defence well and are hard to break down.

Well, well, well. Look who the cat dragged in. :D

I wouldn't want Contra really. Well, maybe if he were cheap and as a backup.

[Azerkid]

I think a big signing ($ wise) wouldn't be good for us since we have don't alot of $ but instead we should scout cheap, young, talent or other talented players that are underpaid. :)

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Azerkid
I think a big signing ($ wise) wouldn't be good for us since we have don't alot of $ but instead we should scout cheap, young, talent or other talented players that are underpaid. :)

Like Joaquin right? He says he's underpaid. ;)

[Azerkid]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


Like Joaquin right? He says he's underpaid. ;)

Thats just a player destined for Real is talking :D, I mean underpaid players that are preety cheap in cost, for example Liverpool managed to get Diouf for only 10$ mil, Arsenal got Gilberto for like 4.5$ (nothing for a player his type), Deportivo got Makaay for free from Tenerife, and etc.

[gnlvagosov]

Romario :silly:

[The Rule]

I think Barce will go for Samuel,Van Gaal has stressed the need for a big strong defender.Boumsong is another one they might track,doubt Chivu will go to Barce,he's always going on about his dream to wear the White of Real.My prediction for Barcelona 2003/2004 is Victor;puyol,boumsong,samuel,navarro;mendieta,luis enrique,xavi,requilme;saviola,kluivert with Ottmar Hitzfeld as coach and Van Gaal lighting his cigarettes

[Strike]

If Chivu really goes to madrid, Then we can forget them
cause he graves his own dig. You can watch them then
to go on bader an bader until he's going as every real player is
arrogant and a kind of "we are the kings". I hope he doesn't I hope....

[soccer fanatic]

Chivu will never be arrogant. He is not the type.

I also would like to say that naming Hitzfeldt as coach of Barca would be a very bad idea. It doesn`t match.

[gnlvagosov]

but he's a good coach

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by gnlvagosov
but he's a good coach

I agree.

[Juan]

But, how about Koeman? It´s almost destiny for him to coach Barça.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by Juan
But, how about Koeman? It´s almost destiny for him to coach Barça.

He hasn`t fullfilled his destiny in Amsterdam yet. :)

No doubt he will be coach of Barca one day. He is great, but what could you expect, he learned from both Louis van Gaal and especcialy Johan Cruijff.

[BLAUGRANA]

We should move for Tristan. The player seems to be getting frustrated on the bench at Deportivo and I think they club would be willing to sell. I'd love to see him come to Barca.

[Strike]

Not yet, but at Madrid he will learn it very well. Cause every
real player is a great arrogant.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by Strike
Not yet, but at Madrid he will learn it very well. Cause every
real player is a great arrogant.

Not Chivu, trust me. :)

[gnlvagosov]

Azul, you are right about signing a player like Tristan but if that doesn't work then can Barca get Roy Makaay? or will it be to hard?

[soccer fanatic]

Arent they both to expensive?

[relejado]

what about Guti, he seems to be frustrated at real. although he seems to be very 'banded to real, we should try to sign him, no ?

[Strike]

VG tries now to keep Mendieta - good idea if not too expensive
and REAL is looking for Milito and Samuel good than can we get
now Chivu they should do a very good bid and sign him. If
he should go one day to real, a world is going down. I wouldn't
like him anymore.

[gnlvagosov]

Roma already said no to Real for taking Samuel, so I don't think it will happen. but I do think that Chivu will be wearing a Real T-shirt very soon!!!
I don't think Real would sell Guti, but Morientes they sure will.

[FCBBarcaAjax]

Milan has a lot of frustrated attackers like Tomasson but he doesn´t play mouch. My be Milan would consider lending him to Barca, he gat to milan on a free transfer so I think, he could come in year or two,...

Hitzfeld. He has wone it all, what a coach can in Germany: pokal, bundesliga, world pokal(or somethig like that). But he won it all with Borruisia Dormund all possible and also with Bayern all possible. Not menchending he´s more of a gentleman of a coach, what we know, Trapatoni wasnt(sometimes they show os DSF what all kinds of scenes he made),...

I hope he´ll stay with Bayern, but probably only if they win both possible tittles,...

Have you considering any of Bayern defenders(sagnol, Kuffour), they are planing to sell them. I can understand them, they´ve won all posible tittles, and mybe want to go in other league,...

About Guti, Is he only 26? I don´t get why didn´t he figoured out, the he´ s only warming up the bench,...

If you´re planing to buy an attacker, porhaeps Tristan, Mutu, Ibrahimovic, Anelka(?),...

[BLAUGRANA]

He mentions Barca as a club that's interested and that Spain is the likeliest destination. :D Here are his comments:


"Those who want to buy Chivu in June will have to pay €18m and the interested clubs will have to deal directly with us. However, Chivu's future very much depends on the non EC citizenz law.
"We are making a list of the contacts we had on Chivu and I can say that our player has 50% possibilities to play in Spain next season, 40% in Italy and 10% to keep playing with Ajax."
"We are in contact with Real Madrid and Barcelona in Spain, with Juventus, Inter, Milan and Roma in Italy even though Parma has also showed interested in the player."

[BLAUGRANA]

Riquelme to Lazio for Mendieta!?!?!? I think this is just garbage. If not, i'll be pissed! :fed-up: :mad: :mad2:

[Strike]

Roma said no but Real in a deal with Milan about Roque-junior
They can have him and we get chivu. Let's go down with
the pissest club on earth -real.

[gnlvagosov]

Azul,
thats a real blow if you had to swap Riquelme for Mendieta....cant you keep them both?

[jscho]

Just some media bullsh!t. Barca already came out to disclaim such rumour.

cheers

[Juan]

Originally posted by FCBBarcaAjax
Anelka(?)

Barça should go ahead and buy him. That will be great... for their rivals.

[gnlvagosov]

He cries to much!!

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Juan


Barça should go ahead and buy him. That will be great... for their rivals.

I seem to remember him scoring some important goals and helping Real to a CL title.

[Olesen10]

He did. But that was like 2-4 years ago. Now he plays in France, isn't even in the French national team, and is still the same old Anelka: I want what everybody's got!

Go for Zlatan instead!

[funky6]

Zlatan?I would go for Raul Blanco instead.Does anybody knows when his contract expires?I don't care if he's expensive.I'm bored of Figos,di stefanos,Puyol rumours,Rivaldo,Kluivert rumours and madrid's arrogance.He is really dissapointed with the club's situation and his relations with Perez are sh*t at the time.

I WANT RAUL IN A BARHA JERSEY.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by Olesen10
He did. But that was like 2-4 years ago. Now he plays in France, isn't even in the French national team, and is still the same old Anelka: I want what everybody's got!

Go for Zlatan instead!

Isn`t Anelka with Manchester City?

[gnlvagosov]

Yeah he is.

[Olesen10]

Yeah he is. Sorry, my bad...But still he's way from topclass!

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by Olesen10
Yeah he is. Sorry, my bad...But still he's way from topclass!

That is true. :)

Too bad, cause he is/was talented. At least he has an adventurous life.

[gnlvagosov]

He whines too much! and Barca doesn't need that right now!

[BLAUGRANA]

Barca will go up against former keeper Reina this weekend. LVG commented on how the younger keeper could still return. This from the club's official website:

"We still hold the purchasing rights to the player", he said. "Hes going to be especially motivated for this game, and it will give me a chance to see at first hand how he is doing at Villarreal".

I really like this kid and want to see him return along with Arteta. I think with Reina, Valdes and Enke we'd have a great stable of keepers for the future who would provide competition for one another and keep each other on their toes.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by funky6
Zlatan?I would go for Raul Blanco instead.Does anybody knows when his contract expires?I don't care if he's expensive.I'm bored of Figos,di stefanos,Puyol rumours,Rivaldo,Kluivert rumours and madrid's arrogance.He is really dissapointed with the club's situation and his relations with Perez are sh*t at the time.

I WANT RAUL IN A BARHA JERSEY.

I'd take him, but he'll NEVER leave Real Madrid, much less for Barca.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Olesen10


Go for Zlatan instead!

I think Zlatan is gonna be a great one. He's so good with the ball for a big guy. Still needs to mature though.

[Olesen10]

True, but I haven't seen or heard anything negative off him the last 2-3 months, which is a fine acomplishment for a guy like him...:D

[FCBBarcaAjax]

Interesting idea, in attack we would put Rebrov and Shevcenko.

Abou that. Inzaghi cant score, if he plays with him, so i think it´s possible, he would cinsider going to a better club,...

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by FCBBarcaAjax
Interesting idea, in attack we would put Rebrov and Shevcenko.



You didn't spell a word correctly. Bad isn't spelled i-n-t-e-r-e-s-t-i-n-g. :D

[Azerkid]

I say buy a duo of Kaka and Luis Fabiano. Both of them are young are the futre Rivaldo's & Ronaldo's of Brazil.

[BLAUGRANA]

We're supposedly interested in Sergio Conciecao of Inter. Depor are reportedly interested as well. I think it's just a rumour rumour though. I say let Depor have him, then rob a bank and take the disgruntled Tristan off their hands.

[Strike]

http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=118447&cpid=9&title=Chivu+ready+for+big+move


Have you read that guys. We should going on before it's too late
I think real also will go on the next days to sign him, but I hope that we can him snap away.He's a great deal for the future and barca should offer the 18 mill. who's wanted by Ajax. Sergio Conceicao is not as half important as Chivu.

I hope they will do it, and don't make another bad mistake and let him go.

[Strike]

Who of you guys saw yesterday the match Ajax -Inter?
Inter was winning of course but the man of the match
was sure Van der Vaart. He's such an great player with
the age of 19. Let's try to sign him in june, boah if that
will happen I would be the lucky'st people on earth.
No one of Inter had a chance against him, and of course
no one of REAL would even have a chance against him.
Sign him and you will have the greatest talent of the last
20 years.

[funky6]

I watched the match(by the way how has a club like Ajax turned into..losing home to Inter and fans cheering like maniacs for going to the second round in an easy group after the other game's result..)

Van der Vaart is great but he's too young i think and Barça are full of talented and promising lads(i don't know if i can't stand another:D) but then we might miss a great chance if he turns into a big player.What i saw yesterday was that incredible goal machine named Crespo scoring his seventh goal.I remembered the rumours about him and Barça in the summer and i got mad watchin him in an Inter jersey...Imagine crespo in our attack.He would be the finisher of all our chances..and we create a lot of them

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by funky6
I watched the match(by the way how has a club like Ajax turned into..losing home to Inter and fans cheering like maniacs for going to the second round in an easy group after the other game's result..)

Ofcourse fans cheer when you advance, besides, we played good, so we have a right to be proud. The reactions on the pitch were calm. All the players were sad because they lost, they all felt they should have won it.

Times chances, Ajax aint the Ajax of the seventees anymore, things are tougher for teams like Ajax. You should know this.


Van der Vaart is great but he's too young i think and Barça are full of talented and promising lads(i don't know if i can't stand another:D) but then we might miss a great chance if he turns into a big player.What i saw yesterday was that incredible goal machine named Crespo scoring his seventh goal.I remembered the rumours about him and Barça in the summer and i got mad watchin him in an Inter jersey...Imagine crespo in our attack.He would be the finisher of all our chances..and we create a lot of them

Crespo is indeed someone who could have made Barca a lot better. He scores from the most small chances. He is really good.

I hope everybody in Europe agrees on the VDV issue, then we can keep him. I read on another forum on WSB, VDV wants to stay for 1 or 2 more years, probably two. But you are wrong. VDV is ready for a bigger league. He was ready last year too.

[funky6]

You definitely deserved to win.And you played really good,but it's still sad to see a 4 times Euro champions fans turning mad when they heard the result of the other match.You got a promising squad and you deserved to go further but it's a little strange to see a reaction like that from Ajax's fans.And ofcourse things are difficult for many clubs,includin' Barça,i know it.Nothing against Ajax mate,besides if i hate 4 clubs in Europe it's Madrid,Milan,Scum u and L'pool(ooohhhhh..those glory days..blah,blah..)

No reason to go to the seventies.I remember Ajax thrashing Madrid in Bernabeu some years ago.;)

[Strike]

*loooooool* van der Vaart too young? never. He's good enough
for the starting XI of Barca. Soccerfanatic you read the article
in voetbal international, I know that cause I have them at home too. Funky trust me I know more than enough about Rafael.
he's much better than ronaldo was in that age-->much. And as
fanatic said he's more than ready for a bigger league, but not Italy cause there's no team for youngsters. They where destroyed
in Italian football. Also Rafael said in this magazine that his favourite Stadion is the Nou Camp. And with VG as Coach
he gona be get a ultimate weapon, cause he can in the offense
play every position really good. Hope to sign him before other sign him, but I believe he's gona stay with Ajax for one more year.
And I don't know funky did you knowing he plays for Oranjes eerste Elftal.

[funky6]

To make it clearer.I know he's talented and skillful(and MAYBE ready..who knows?).I just say that Barça already have many promising and young players.Saviola,Riquelme,Motta,Rochemback,Xavi,Christanval,Gabri,Geovanni etc.And if i think abt our youngsters Iniesta,Tortolero,Sergio Garcéa etc i'll turn into psycho.:D

What i'm tryin' to say is that Barça never was an Ajax like club.We were never that good with young players and i think Barça has "killed" alot of talents.We were always depended on Superstars and that's fine with me.I see a total different strategy the last years and i don't know if many of those kids can handle the pressure from Spanish press,fans etc in their shoulders.

It's a little weird watching us turn into a youth academy and i feel a little strange abt it that's all.I want silverwear and perhaps i 've run out of patience after three miserable years.That's all.

To tell you the truth,it's the first time and one of the few(very few)times in the history of the club that there's NO superstar/leader in the squad.And i can't say i like this.Anyway..my opinion..you can continue talk abt starlets:D

Don't forget we have already not won our bet with Saviola..and it's Riquelme too...

[bamk9532]

Well I would love to see one transfer occur which most of you may not like. I would love to see Morientes coming to Barca this winter. Lets not look at him as a madridista, just look at him as a footballer.
He makes great runs and almost always converts the chances.

As Van Gaal said, we need strikers. And if Morientes comes within 15 million euros, then I think its a huge bargain.

Salas and Jardel have also been linked with Barca, but I dont think they r that good.

Also, at the end of the season, I hope that Gaspart signs Mendieta as a Barca Player. I mean pays for him.

I have also heard a lot of links of the young Andres De Allesandro of River Plate. Barca r looking to sign him. The River Plate cheif says that if Allesandro has to go, he should join Barca with Saviola and Riquelme. I've seen Allesandro play, he's young but he's extremely talented. He is much more like Valeron. He just anchors the midfield. He runs all over the field and provides the chances.

[Juan]

Keep your sweaty paws off Morientes!!!!! :p

I see D´Alessandro more in Juve than Barça, and I´m not sure how he can play together with Riquelme. Then again, if Romy can play with Aimar, then he sure can play with D´Alessandro.

[Strike]

http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=118746&clid=178&cpid=23&title=Amoroso+invites+Barca+approach

Amoroso in Blaugrana? What think you guys over?

[Robledo]

Both Amoroso and now Salas are cup tied from playing in the CL, and surely Barca would want a player that can be used in the next phase of the CL

Any decent strikers out there that haven't played in European compeition yet?

[bamk9532]

Hey, I think that Barca are doing quite well in the CL with the current squad, in fact they r doing just terrific. 6 out of 6 wins.

So Van Gaal would be even happy with a cup tied player.

About Amoruso, I think he's an excellent player but I think its a big risk because he is already 28 and mmay find it hard to adjust to the spanish game and the barca style of play.

To tell u the truth, I would love to see Tristan or Morientes in Barca.

[funky6]

Amoroso???No fecking way!!!Same goes for Salas.I would prefer us to spend some money on Chivu or a c.d.than one more waste of money.If we are abt to go for a striker i would prefer us to wait till the end of the season and go for a Crespo status striker.

[BLAUGRANA]

I say move for a striker now, and that striker should be Tristan. He's cup tied for the CL, but who cares. He isn't getting much playing time at Depor and I think now would be a prime time to move for him.

And about Amoroso, Azulgrana says: "Don't call us, we'll call you!" :fed-up:

[BLAUGRANA]

He is happy at Rangers right now and feels it isn't time for him to leave yet. So be it, so long as he comes home when he is ready to leave.

[BARCABOY4EVR]

ID LIKE 2 SEE BARCA MAKE THE FOLLOWING SIGNINGS....

1.CHRISTIAN CHIVU-HUGE TALENT-GREAT DEFENDER(WHICH WE BADLY NEED AS DE BOER ISNT GETTING ANY YOUNGER)
2.WALTER SAMUEL-SOLID AS A ROCK AT THE BK
3.RAFAEL VAN DER VAART-YOUGN SCORES A SHIT LOAD OF GOASL FORM MIDFIELD
4.D'ALLESSANDRO(ONLY IF OVERMARS DOESNT FIND HIS WAY BACK TO FORM) VERY SKILLFULL AND GOOD AT RUNNING AT DEFENDERS.

AS FOR THOSE I WOULD LIKE 2 LEAVE THE CLUB ARE AS FOLLOWS:

1.PHILIP COCU(ALTHOUGH GREAT SERVANT TO BARCA HE IS GETTING ON THESEDAYS AND ISNT AS EFFECTIVE)(CAN BE EASILY REPLACED BY ROCHEMBACK( OR EVEN MENDIETA IF WE MANAGE TO HANG ON TO HIM) ALONGSIDE XAVI TO PROVIDE SOME REAL FIGHT IN TO BARCAS MIDFIELD.
2. FRANK DE BOER-LOSIN IT IN HIS OLD AGE HIS CURRENT LACK OF PACE IS COSTING US DEARLY AND NEEDS TO BE REPLACED BY A YOUNGER,FASTER PLAYER SUCH AS CHIVU
3.MOTTA IMO IS NOT THE PLAYER THAT EVERYONE IS MAKING HIM OUT TO BE.THE TIMES I HAVE SEEN HIM HE HAS LOOKED VASTLY OUT OF HIS DEPTH.ALTHOUGH STILL YOUNG I PRAY THAT HE'LL DEVELOP IN TO A WORLD CLASS PLAYER BUT I CANT SEE IT HAPPENING AT THE MOMENT.
4.IM IN 2 MINDS ABOUT CHRISTANVAL LEAVING.ALL I REALLY THINK HE NEEDS IS A RUN IN THE TEAM AND RESTORE SOME CONFIDENCE IN HIMSELF.HES SOLID IN THE AIR AND A SOLID TACKLER BUT JUST NEEDS THAT LITTLE BIT OF CONFIDENCE.HES A LITTLE LIKE IVAN CAMPO ALL HE NEEDS IS CONFIDENCE.
5.DANI CANT SEE HIM PLAYING MUCH PART FOR THE CLUB ALTHOUGH HOPE HE CAN RECAPTURE THE FORM HE HAD AT MALLORCA BUT CANT SEE HIM SHOVING KLUIVERT OR SAVIOLA OUT OF THE TEAM.

I THINK OUR TEAM SHOUDL LOOK LIKE THIS

GOALKEEPER

BONANO

DEFENDERS

CHIVU
PUYOL
SAMUEL

MIDFIELDERS

ROCHEMBACK
XAVI

WINGERS

D'ALLESSANDRO
&
RIQUELME

FORWARDS

KLUIVERT
&
SAVIOLA

ALL WE REALLY NEED IS TO SOLIDIFY OUR DEFENCE!!!
OUR ATTACK IS FABULOUS!!

WE R THE SAME AS REAL MADRID!!!GREAT GOING FORWARD,SHIT AT THE BACK!!!!

IN LIFE AND DEATH BARCA 4EVR!!!!!!

[hollowi]

First, try not to write in CAPS and second, why would we play with nine outfield players instead of normal ten? 3-4-2 makes only nine players, try to put the tenth too.

There are plenty of great young players and there's four of them. I still wouldn't go and change all our great experienced players for young ones; look at Valdes's trick after he was relegated to B team. Also I think we don't necessarily have to buy so many players; we have, especially in midfield, great "old" players like Mendieta, Lucho, Overmars, Cocu. Our team must have a balance between young and old players. Thinking that Batistuta still plays for Roma though he's at least 35, all of our players still have many years to play. I think Chivu and/or Samuel would be great because we need some speed to the central defense. Though I wouldn't hurry because what de Boer loses in speed, he wins in intelligence of play. He's great, because if he wasn't why are we not using Christanval or Reiziger instead?

Eleven players is so little that LvG will have to think a lot if he buys more players, because our squad is finding it's form now. Okay, he could and should buy a central defender or two because our CB's are getting old (de Boer and Andersson) or they don't have enough talent (Christanval). Reiziger we should sell since the big English clubs are willing to pay for him. Get the money and buy Chivu, Samuel or perhaps Fabricio Coloccini of Atlético Madrid. Though I think Coloccini is not that fast(?). Samuel and Chivu would be great purchases.

[Strike]

I don't like barca played with nine players *loool* ;-)

[Strike]

Guys we want Chivu so much and I hope so much that he's coming but I think in the end he's playing some other. :,-(.
But never give up hope.

[gnlvagosov]

Chivu is being linked everywhere:
Juventus
Inter
Real Madrid
Parma
Barcelona
and many others...

[Strike]

I can't understand this can someone translate it?

http://www.sport.es/article.asp?id=53000

[soccer fanatic]

Chivu arrives at an agreement for fichar by the Madrid
Christian Chivu can be can become the first reinforcement of the Real one Madrid for the next season. Upon seeming the Rumanian has itself overrated finally by the white
The player already has arrived at an agreement with the white assembly and now so only lacks that the Madrid he negotiate with the Ajax to complete the operation. The Dutch club will not put many obstacles to the operation, since the Rumanian finishes contract in June of the 2004 and to the end of the present season is the last opportunity to obtain an I transfer.
Chivu also was in the órbita of the Barça, but the player has discarded this option before the impossibility that its present coach in the Ajax, Ronald Koeman, you pray him the next campaign in the Camp Nou.
On the other hand, the enclosed one to the sports direction of the Madrid, Emilio Butragueño, had dinner last night with the young central one Swiss of 17 years Philippe Paths, of the Servette and of Spanish father, who would be able to be a bet of future for the defense madridista. 15/11/2002 (Santi Giménez)

This is from a translation site! So it is kind of weird grammar.
for a better translation you need someone who speaks Spanish.

I think Chivu`s current contract information is wrong, it should be until 2006.

[Olesen10]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
I say move for a striker now, and that striker should be Tristan. He's cup tied for the CL, but who cares. He isn't getting much playing time at Depor and I think now would be a prime time to move for him.


Tristan would be a good signing, but I haven't seen much from him the last couple of weeks, Makaay(how do you spell that...:)) has been the best from Depor in a while IMO. Anyways wel'll see Saturdays game and decide... :D

[gnlvagosov]

Tristan would definetly be a good buy

[Strike]

Here I've another one about Chivu.

http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/20021115/NOTICIA50611902.html

He is one of my favourite players, and if he goes to madrid he
WAS one of my favourite players.

[hollowi]

A lot of new transfer rumours after the CL first group.

Leeds, Liverpool and Barça are targeting Juan Pablo Sorin. Leeds have had interest for him since close-season but we have a good relationship with Lazio due the Mendieta deal.

Also Barça have been linked with Marcio Amoroso of Borussia Dortmund along with the Spurs. Amoroso's agent tells that he has always wanted to play in Spain.

Sorin deal sounds possible, if not probable. Amoroso then again sounds unrealistic and I know that LVG won't be doing that big mistake to bring another attacker to play aside with Saviola and Pat. Okay, maybe somebody like Crespo but not Amoroso.

[bamk9532]

I agree with the fact that samuel or chivu would be great signings. In fact I believe that if Barca can sign these two players they dont need to sign any other player. This is because right now the barca midfielders have to give cover to the barca defence and have a double role of defending and attacking. If Barca can have a defense of Puyol Samuel and Chivu then the midfielders will have more trust in the defense and wil move forward muh more comfortably and freely because they would be worry less abt the defense.

If Barca cant sign both of them, then they have to sign one of them.

If Barca cant sign one of them then barca should look to reinforce their central midfield and I think that the best player for that would be Valeron. He would be great with Xavi.

If VG decides to sign a striker then Tristan or Morientes. But I prefer Moro because he makes great runs into the box. He doesn't score spectacular goals but always scores on the simple chances. He always gets into great position to score and so it's easy for the provider to set up a goal for him. I think Barca should move for Moro.

[Juan]

We´re getting Chivu, we´re getting Chivu, WE´RE GETTING CHIVU!!!!!!!!!

*does the happy dance*

And, did you see my point about Sorin?

[Olesen10]

:D funny one, like you're ever gonna get Chivu...:) And if you are, you'll never hear me say good for you...:D
But let him play against us and we'll show him he made the wrong choice!;)

[Olesen10]

Hey guys, I've started a "Which movie is this line from"...quiz in the "Away from soccer" forum. Be free to join!:D

[hollowi]

You're getting no-one :p

Besides it's fun to see Real having problems playing in snow in Moscow and Dortmund won't be a warm place either. You know, it's easily minus 20 celsius in Moscow at winter :D. Believe me, I know, I live in Helsinki :D. :ronaldo: better start growing hair or his head will freeze. Like I care :p

[BLAUGRANA]

:eek: That's what Lazio want for the player. Barca are reportedly unwilling to pay that though (THANK GOD) and are willing to test Lazio's resolve over the fee as Lazio desperately need cash.

[BLAUGRANA]

If Chivu goes to Real, so be it. I wouldn't blame him for going there. I won't hate him if he does, I'll just be disappointed.

[jscho]

Originally posted by hollowi
You're getting no-one :p

. :ronaldo: better start growing hair or his head will freeze. Like I care :p


Does it matter? There is nothing up there to protect!!!! ;)

[Strike]

wait ,wait, wait. Have you read that?


No de Florentino


Jorge Valdano y el 'staff' técnico del Real Madrid han debido convencer al presidenteFlorentino Pérez de la calidad indiscutible del rumano, de que con 21 años su fichaje es fácilmente amortizable y que no hay en el mercado un jugador de su calidad una vez que Nesta se ha ido al Milan y Cannavaro al Inter. Florentino no quería a Chivu porque su apellido le parecía poco serio. No es broma, tal es así que no se descarta que le obliguen por contrato a lucir en su espalda el nombre de Christian, aunque
conociendo al rumano eso no va a ser fácil. Lo mismo sucedía con Milito, el excelente defensa de Independiente a quien el presidente del Madrid no tenía en mucha consideración por la similitud del apellido con el inolvidable payaso de la tele, con 'Milikito'.


El Barça, a través de Koeman

La única posibilidad del Barça hubiera sido que Chivu hubiera decidido seguir en el Ajax hasta que Ronald Koeman (sigue siendo una hipótesis) tomara el relevo de Louis van Gaal en el Barça dentro de dos temporadas.



Wait of juan don't be so happy at now I just know barca is planning something with..... KOEMAN, cause he don't
wanna sell Chivu to Real

One Inteligent Person on earth. Koeman against real means
he is a friend of me. :-)

[soccer fanatic]

The Barça, through Koeman
The only possibility of the Barça to have been that Chivu there was determined to follow in the Ajax until Ronald Koeman (follows being a hypothesis) took the relevo of Louis go Gaal in the Barça inside two seasons.



Its only hypothetical.

[FCBBarcaAjax]

The alternatives are Lucio and Ramelow, but I doubt, leverkusen is willing to sell them, because they have more then enough money, they don´t have a lot of good players anymore.

Amoroso is not so good. He loses ball a lot, doesn´t play fair, but he had last year fantastic goal feeling(like Ronaldo),...

IF there would be possible, I think It would be good for Barca, and cheeo, you would buy 21(or porhaeps19)yerlow-german central defender, I think he´s at aston vila, he´s name is Lehman and he was fantastic in ep, where you won(spain) with germany in final with 1:0,...

Other but probably inpossible is R. Santa Cruz, he would be perfect, but sory, I doubt Bayern will ever sell him,...

[gnlvagosov]

man you won't imagine what they went through to get him from Olimpia!!!

[Robledo]

It's a shame Santa Cruz rarely gets a start with Bayern. He's one for Bayern's future. Elber and Pizarro are the first choice, and sometimes Zickler is 3rd choice which is puzzling.

[gnlvagosov]

I agree, when they first got Santa Cruz he was I think 19 or 20 , what's his age now? he rarely starts and when he does it's for a few minutes but if he does start a full game he shows his best, if he moves to Spain he will adapt much better.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by FCBBarcaAjax
The alternatives are Lucio and Ramelow, but I doubt, leverkusen is willing to sell them, because they have more then enough money, they don´t have a lot of good players anymore.



They would if the price were right. That's the problem, they are very stingy and want a small fortune either of them. However, if Bayern Munich comes calling they seem to not care (Ballack transfer). :confused:

[BLAUGRANA]

Barca are reportedly interested in young Swiss defender Philippe Senderos. I really don't know much about him apart from he's 17 and plays with Servette. He's supposedly going on trial with Liverpool in the Winter, but Barca are reportedly willing to beat any offer for him.

[BLAUGRANA]

Barca have been linked with Brazilian Kleiberson. The player is currently with Atletico PR and the move would cost around 4 million pounds. The player has been linked with a boatload of other clubs though.

[BLAUGRANA]

Barca are reportedly scouting Polish midfielder Kamil Kosowski of Wisla Krakow.

[Strike]

If Chivu really doesn't come to Barca then are here my favourites to land.


1. Diego Tristan
2. Mexes (or Stam if free or cheap)
3. Edgar Davids ( I know it sound unrealistic but davids are
reportly costs 12M.

And if we can get sell Dani and not forget Alfonso who is on loan
but money comes next year we can get some money.

And if the target of Barca people goes on with a 1,000,000
There is no problem to finance that.

Maybe some of you ask now why Davids. I would say you

cause

1. If Cocu is gone (hope he stays for one year more)
2. He is a fighter with tech. He can fight and dribble.
3. He have cool glasses ( *lol* joke) no he is a left foot
we also have Overmars and Motta, but if they were
KO whats then? Our Squad must getting brigther

I would say we should have 26 players (includes Keppers)
cause we play next year surely champions league ,la liga
and Cup.





thats Powerful

[echobelly]

im not sure if davids can fit in well with barcelona's attacking style

I am sure he's a marvellous player, Im also a fan of him ... but that pitbull just may not fit in well
how bout hidetoshi nakata instead hehehe :)

[gnlvagosov]

Davids doesnt cost £12m he costs much more, that price was just given by Roma to Juve, and it's mainly a low price because Roma couldn't use him in the CL anymore.

Forza Juve

[FCBBarcaAjax]

R.Santa Cruz. I think he came with 17 years to Munich, and he´s pritty standard, also gave a goal, they won with Wolfsburg(Effenberg) with resoult 1:0, but sharing two points would be more fair.

Kleberson was great on WC, he would be good, also why didnt Barca went for Gilberto Silva(Arsenal)

[Juan]

I liked Kleberson at the WC, but I´m skeptical about what he could give to Barça.

[gnlvagosov]

Barca need Joao Pinto! :D

[The Rule]

Originally posted by gnlvagosov
Barca need Joao Pinto! :D

WHY?????

[Olesen10]

Joao Pinto!?! The player who made that insane tackle, right before hitting the referee? Yeah, that's the player we need! :rolleyes:

[Juan]

Originally posted by gnlvagosov
Barca need Joao Pinto! :D

To make it easy on Madrid I guess.

[The Rule]

But it's not Barce who are making things hard for Real,it's Real themselves

[gnlvagosov]

Joao Pinto is an amazing player...yeah he hit that referee :D :silly:...but that referee deserved it!!
new rumour : Barca to move for Ronaldinho

[Olesen10]

You're right! Ronaldinho is a worldclassplayer, which means that all topclubs are out for him so he's got to be quite expensive...But if Barca got him, we would be heading for greatness!!!

[Olesen10]

You're right! Ronaldinho is a worldclassplayer, which means that all topclubs are out for him so he's got to be quite expensive...But if Barca got him, we would be heading for greatness!!!:silly:

[gnlvagosov]

you sure would...

[BLAUGRANA]

Barca are reportedly looking at yet another striker. This one seems to be lighting up the Argentine League. His name is Cesar Carignano and plays for Colon de Santa Fe. Here are some comments:

Colon de Santa Fe president, Jose Vignatti: "Carignano isn't going anywhere, I have heard that the press is saying that he could leave to Barcelona but I am in conditions for saying that he will stay with us at least until June 2003.

"If we recieve any offer we will study it but only in case that the club that makes it does it with the idea of having the player when the Torneo Clausura ends, in June 2003.

"As everybody knows, Colon is the only First Division club in Argentina that doesn't have debts so the club that wants Carignano will even have to make a good offer because we are not in a financial hurry for selling him to the first offer, it will really have to be good because we are talking about a great player with an excellent future."


Carignano: "All I know is from what was said in the press from Buenos Aires and by the phone calls I have recieved from some journalists.

"Obviously I would love to play in Europe but I am very well in Colon, I am having a great personal moment and I am enjoying it. When I see that I am the second top scorer of the championship I really can't believe it, so I want to enjoy this moment all I can."

[BLAUGRANA]

About Ronaldinho guys, I wouldn't go after him. I don't think he's proven himself enough as a player to garner the price tags i've read he has. I think he has a bright future, but for the price of him you could get D' Alessandro and probably Chivu.

[The Rule]

Ronaldinho would cost around €25million, River Plate have quoted Juve a price of €20 million for D'Allessandro, you think Chivu is only worth around €5 million???

So you've got a World-cup winner(did you see him in the W.C?,defo Brazils best player) and a world-class player for €25 million and then you've got a kid who hasn't established himself in the Argentina team yet(and mightn't for a few years yet)for €20 million,Now which of them hasn't proven that they warrant such a price??

As for Chivu,he's off to Real anyway,so don't be worrying about him.

[gnlvagosov]

Ronaldinho scored again...:silly:

[bamk9532]

Well I think Ronaldinho for 25 million euros would be great. But there is a problem with the signing of Ronaldinho.

Right now we cant fit in Riquelme because of Luis Enrique. So when Ronaldinho comes the problem will get more complicated.

Actually Barca should either look to sign an out and out striker, a defender or a central midfielder who helps at the back.

I would prefer to sign Chivu, or Walter Samuel or Steven Gerard of Liverpool, John Arne Riise of Liverpool.

for the striker positon, I would still prefer to see Makaay, Tristan or Morientes at Barca because they know the spanish style of play better than most strikers

especially morientes may come cheaply as he is out of favour at Real

[Olesen10]

Well I don't think either of these folks will ever come to Barca, but then again, never say never...

[funky6]

I agree with Olesen.It's really sad how Barça's prestige has fallen.Amongst other factors(financials etc)ask yourself if Barça has the same place in many players' mind as the team to be in.

Three or four years ago i would be sure that any of Europe's top players(not superstars only but hot names like Chivu,Henry etc.) would kill to play for Barça since we wanted him.Now i really don't think that we would be preferred over Madrid,Milan,Arsenal,Man U,Juventus etc.(offering the same money ofcourse.),though we still are a huge Club.

That's football of course but it's really strange for Barça,since it's the first time it's happening the last 20 years.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by The Rule
Ronaldinho would cost around €25million, River Plate have quoted Juve a price of €20 million for D'Allessandro, you think Chivu is only worth around €5 million???

No genius, I just have different prices associated with the players based on numerous sites and articles i've read over the course of the last few months. I've seen D' Alessandro priced at 9 million pounds, Chivu at 12 million pounds (the rumoured number in his buyout clause) and Ronaldinho all over the place. He's been as high as 20 million pounds in some places. So, based on those numbers you could pretty much get the better two players of the three for the price of the worst of the three players we're discussing. You need me to do the math for you?

Originally posted by The Rule

So you've got a World-cup winner(did you see him in the W.C?,defo Brazils best player) and a world-class player for €25 million and then you've got a kid who hasn't established himself in the Argentina team yet(and mightn't for a few years yet)for €20 million,Now which of them hasn't proven that they warrant such a price??

"defo" ??? :confused: Not familiar with that one. I'll assume that it's the word you lot in La La land use for definately. Well, you're wrong. He wasn't Brazils best player, but then your bias is pretty clear.

Basing your arguement solely on NT merit is foolish too. You're using a span of a handful of games over the course of a month where the player had the opportunity to team up with the World's best. He should have done well. Then, there's his tenure in Le Championnat. He's not necessarily set the league on fire. He's done well at times, but not nearly consistently enough nor well enough for a player of his "reputation".

Originally posted by The Rule

As for Chivu,he's off to Real anyway,so don't be worrying about him.

Yeah, and if you believe all the other articles about where he'll be playing he'll be at Roma before Real as they reportedly have first refusal on him.

[Strike]

http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=120018&cpid=8&title=Reds+target+Rafael+keen+on+Spanish+switch



*rooooooooooooooofl*

1. Van der Vaart is standing at Ajax, and if he's going then to Barca, if they buy him (his wish is barca)

2. I must laughing more and more, would Real buying him?, He
NEVER goes to Real NEVER, so Real forget that.

3. I think Van Gaal will move for him in summer.

[Strike]

So, The Rule you are a genius like Azu said, but a genius without brain I think.
Chivu is going nowhere ----> yet, maybe he goes to real
if they make an good offer, if Barca make the better offer
than Barca here he comes.Don't forget Ajax is half barca
They have a friendship. But that you didn't know I see.
Now we where seen in future who's getting Chivu it's all open.
And at information he said he choices real cause barca made
not an concrete offer in the past. We will see.

[The Rule]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA


1.No genius, I just have different prices associated with the players based on numerous sites and articles i've read over the course of the last few months. I've seen D' Alessandro priced at 9 million pounds, Chivu at 12 million pounds (the rumoured number in his buyout clause) and Ronaldinho all over the place. He's been as high as 20 million pounds in some places. So, based on those numbers you could pretty much get the better two players of the three for the price of the worst of the three players we're discussing. You need me to do the math for you?

2."defo" ??? :confused: Not familiar with that one. I'll assume that it's the word you lot in La La land use for definately. Well, you're wrong. He wasn't Brazils best player, but then your bias is pretty clear.


3.Basing your arguement solely on NT merit is foolish too. You're using a span of a handful of games over the course of a month where the player had the opportunity to team up with the World's best. He should have done well. Then, there's his tenure in Le Championnat. He's not necessarily set the league on fire. He's done well at times, but not nearly consistently enough nor well enough for a player of his "reputation".

4.Yeah, and if you believe all the other articles about where he'll be playing he'll be at Roma before Real as they reportedly have first refusal on him.

1.What sites?soccerage.com?Lippi was interviewed on one of those strange Italian channels and he said they were quoted €20 million for D'allessandro.As for Chivu his price was set at a press conference as €15 million,he doesn't have a buy-out claus,that's a stupid spanish thing.and the president of PSG said that if they recieved a bid of between €20 and €25 million for ronaldinho,they would sell him

2.LA LA LAND???that's funny,YOU'RE A FUNNY GUY

3.It shows how often you've seen him play.he performs week in week out for his club and when it comes to the NT,He rarely has a poor game,and before you start talking more crap,it's on the strenght of the french league that Barce and half the top teams in Europe want players like Mexes, Cisse and Boumsong

4.Another Soccerage.com rumour, Ajax,The player and his agent all said that the player will go where he wants to go,and he wants to go to Madrid

[Strike]

Whats with the rumour transfers for free?

I think barca should look on the players who's ending their contract in june or july 2003.

Two of them are Gronkjaer and Silvestre.Good players for free.
But if they want them they should made pre-contracts.

I'm going to looking forward next time to search other endings
in 2003.

[The Rule]

Originally posted by Strike
http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=120018&cpid=8&title=Reds+target+Rafael+keen+on+Spanish+switch



*rooooooooooooooofl*

1. Van der Vaart is standing at Ajax, and if he's going then to Barca, if they buy him (his wish is barca)

2. I must laughing more and more, would Real buying him?, He
NEVER goes to Real NEVER, so Real forget that.

3. I think Van Gaal will move for him in summer.

His wish is Barce???????Do Barce play in Italy cos he said that would be his destination when he leaves Ajax in a few years

Why would Real want him,unless they want him as a squad player

I doubt Van Gaal will be there next summer,he might be moving IN with him,cos he'll be homeless and out of a job(Barce own the house Van Gaal lives in)

[The Rule]

Originally posted by Strike
Whats with the rumour transfers for free?

I think barca should look on the players who's ending their contract in june or july 2003.

Two of them are Gronkjaer and Silvestre.Good players for free.
But if they want them they should made pre-contracts.

I'm going to looking forward next time to search other endings
in 2003.

Gronkjaer is out in 2004 not 2003,and why would they want Silvestre??he's crap

[The Rule]

Originally posted by Strike
So, The Rule you are a genius like Azu said, but a genius without brain I think.
Chivu is going nowhere ----> yet, maybe he goes to real
if they make an good offer, if Barca make the better offer
than Barca here he comes.Don't forget Ajax is half barca
They have a friendship. But that you didn't know I see.
Now we where seen in future who's getting Chivu it's all open.
And at information he said he choices real cause barca made
not an concrete offer in the past. We will see.

So first he's going nowhere and then he's going to real or Barce??make up your mind.i antway if it comes to a bidding war,no one can match the financial muscle or the spanish government....eh i mean Real.

and as for Ajax being half Barce,you've got your stories mixed up,Ajax have one link at present(Koeman),whereas Barce have Van Gaal,De boer,Reizeger,Overmars and Kluivert.If either them are half anything,then Barce's team is half built on Ajax success,and as for a friendship,there are no friends in business and football is a business

[Strike]

The Rule before you going to speak about van der Vaart, you should be very, very carefully. Cause do you know Rafael?
( I mean in personally?) If not then I would close my mouth quickly if I where you? I say you one thing little genius,
you can tell me a lot, but nothing over Rafael. Understand?

Thats only a good advice.

[soccer fanatic]

Originally posted by The Rule

and as for Ajax being half Barce,you've got your stories mixed up,Ajax have one link at present(Koeman),whereas Barce have Van Gaal,De boer,Reizeger,Overmars and Kluivert.If either them are half anything,then Barce's team is half built on Ajax success,and as for a friendship,there are no friends in business and football is a business

you make some good points. But if you look in the Ajax fanshop, you would see items which are halfly Ajax and halfly Barca, like sjawls. Litmanen also has a direct connection too Barca, don`t know if he coinsiders it a positive one though. The clubs are connected, like they were in history too. (Michels, Cruijff and Neeskens for example) So there is an undeniable link, but if the bidding for Chivu and VDV starts, it probably will fall back to business, highest bidder first.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by The Rule


1.What sites?soccerage.com?Lippi was interviewed on one of those strange Italian channels and he said they were quoted €20 million for D'allessandro.As for Chivu his price was set at a press conference as €15 million,he doesn't have a buy-out claus,that's a stupid spanish thing.and the president of PSG said that if they recieved a bid of between €20 and €25 million for ronaldinho,they would sell him

2.LA LA LAND???that's funny,YOU'RE A FUNNY GUY

3.It shows how often you've seen him play.he performs week in week out for his club and when it comes to the NT,He rarely has a poor game,and before you start talking more crap,it's on the strenght of the french league that Barce and half the top teams in Europe want players like Mexes, Cisse and Boumsong

4.Another Soccerage.com rumour, Ajax,The player and his agent all said that the player will go where he wants to go,and he wants to go to Madrid

1. Soccerage is a site I browse, but I don't put too much stock into things they say. I usually check to see if a number of sited are in agreement. D' Alessandro was widely rumoured to be available for 9 million pounds/13.5 million euros a few weeks back. Chivu has reportedly been rumoured to have such a buyout clause and his agent is one of the people i've seen quoted as saying he's got it in his contract. Soccer Fanatic would probably have a better idea as he lives in Holland and is the biggest Ajax fan here. As for Ronaldinho, he's had so many different price tags. I'd say anyone who wanted him would have to pay at least 25 million euros. How much did they pay for him in the first place? I think it was quite a lot.

2. So i've been told.

3. If you'd actually read my initial post, I said during his time at PSG and not just this season. I've seen him play plenty of times for PSG, especially last season. He's much better this season as last season I really thought he was overrated. I still do, but i'm not saying he's not quality. As for French players being wanted, that doesn't necessarily mean the Le Championnat is such a great league. I personally think it's a fine league, but not on par with the EPL, Bundesliga, La Liga or Serie A. If having players who are wanted all over Europe is your way of judging a league, then you must rate the Dutch Eredivisie as high as Le Championnat with the likes of van Bommel, van der Vaart, Chivu, Zlatan and Hofland being on big clubs' shopping lists.

4. Chivu's also said he'd play for Milan too. Reallistically, he'd go to a number of big clubs if they came in for him. I think he'll end up at Real, but if they get someone else first (say Samuel from Roma), then I think a move for Chivu becomes less likely.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by The Rule


His wish is Barce???????Do Barce play in Italy cos he said that would be his destination when he leaves Ajax in a few years

Why would Real want him,unless they want him as a squad player

I doubt Van Gaal will be there next summer,he might be moving IN with him,cos he'll be homeless and out of a job(Barce own the house Van Gaal lives in)

I'd love to see him at Barca. This kid is the real deal and a goal machine. His mother is Spanish and i'm sure he take Spain over Italy.

Calling him a squad player is derisory. He could play out on the left for Real Madrid. He'd crack Barca's midfield out there more easily though and I hope him comes some day, soon.

LVG will be around next summer IMO. If not, he'll have no trouble finding another job.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by The Rule


,and as for a friendship,there are no friends in business and football is a business

Agreed, but they are linked as Soccer Fanatic says. Barca would have to pay for Chivu or VDV just like anyone will, but the clubs are tied. Koeman's presence at Ajax would probably be more of a Barca influence. Also, consider when the NT gets together and all the Barca players are talking to VDV about the great weather and nightlife in Barcelona.

[funky6]

Also, consider when the NT gets together and all the Barca players are talking to VDV about the great weather and nightlife in Barcelona.

I think i've just found the main reason for our misery.:D

[hollowi]

Barcelona are keen to speak with Leeds United midfielder Lee Bowyer.
The England international comes out of contract at the end of the season and is free to speak with foreign clubs from January 1.

Bowyer is also being chased by Tottenham ahead of January's transfer window, while Manchester City boss Kevin Keegan says he will try and sign the midfielder in June on a Bosman.

Barcelona are also looking to sign Bowyer next year, rather than enter an auction in January.


-TribalFootball

Great to see that LvG hasn't forgotten his priorities in player market. I'd still go for him in January if the price is reasonable. Nuf said. :)

[Juan]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Also, consider when the NT gets together and all the Barca players are talking to VDV about the great weather and nightlife in Barcelona.

Then why aren´t all Spanish internationals going to Depor? I mean, they have a great spokesman in Diego Tristan.

[Strike]

Juan thats right what Azul is said. It's different cause in Spain
there are many people of many teams, but in the dutch team
Kluivert and Overmars and De Boer and Reiziger are all Ex-Ajax
and Van der Vaart know them all and Van Gaal has him brought to the NT.
And now listen: " My favourite Stadion is the Camp Nou".
And I would like to play there in a time.

It's getting no better time than yet with trainer and players,
but don't forget the transfer-fee.

[VivaBarcaInter]

Originally posted by hollowi
Barcelona are keen to speak with Leeds United midfielder Lee Bowyer.
The England international comes out of contract at the end of the season and is free to speak with foreign clubs from January 1.

Bowyer is also being chased by Tottenham ahead of January's transfer window, while Manchester City boss Kevin Keegan says he will try and sign the midfielder in June on a Bosman.

Barcelona are also looking to sign Bowyer next year, rather than enter an auction in January.


-TribalFootball

Great to see that LvG hasn't forgotten his priorities in player market. I'd still go for him in January if the price is reasonable. Nuf said. :)

Not to be offensive, but where is the priority there? The one thing we DON'T need is another midfielder. What we could be doing with is a couple of quality defenders, and another striker. A real striker, and not some chump like Geovanni playing up there. Which leads me to think that perhaps Van Gaal should be selling players like this, it would bring in money and there's no point in keeping players like that if the coach doesn't want to use them at all.

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by VivaBarcaInter


Not to be offensive, but where is the priority there? The one thing we DON'T need is another midfielder. What we could be doing with is a couple of quality defenders, and another striker. A real striker, and not some chump like Geovanni playing up there. Which leads me to think that perhaps Van Gaal should be selling players like this, it would bring in money and there's no point in keeping players like that if the coach doesn't want to use them at all.

I do think we need some new midfielders, particularly on the flanks. Not our #1 priority, but needed.

[Strike]

Agreed. Cause if Cocu is really gone in near future I don't think
that only rochemback can help us out.

In defensive midfield my no1. is Davids.

[gnlvagosov]

Take Davids, if you let us have Saviola:evil: :D

[Olesen10]

Originally posted by VivaBarcaInter


Not to be offensive, but where is the priority there? The one thing we DON'T need is another midfielder. What we could be doing with is a couple of quality defenders, and another striker. A real striker, and not some chump like Geovanni playing up there. Which leads me to think that perhaps Van Gaal should be selling players like this, it would bring in money and there's no point in keeping players like that if the coach doesn't want to use them at all.

Good point! No offence, but Rochemback, Geovanni and Christianval have never been big at Barca, and I don't think they'll ever be big. So maybe sell one, two or all of them and spend the money on a good striker or better, a class defender (as they use to be less expensive...:) )

[The Rule]

Originally posted by Strike

And now listen: " My favourite Stadion is the Camp Nou".
And I would like to play there in a time.


That could mean he'd just like to play there for one match.And as for good relations between the club,as someone pointed out earlier, Litmanen was at Barcelona and had nothing but bad to say about it,and VDV says he is a great mentor,so if VDV listens to Liti,then Barce is a no-go,then there's Michael Laudrup,who was at Ajax a few years ago, and was something of a mentor to VDV as well,and you can be sure he told him that Barce was not the place to go,That's why Brian Laudrup turned them down so many times.

[Strike]

The Rule I can say you to 100% if he leave Ajax and barca can afford him, ( that the only question) because VG stays for sure,
he went to barca.

[Juan]

OK, you can have VDV, if you keep yourselves off Chivu. Deal?

[BLAUGRANA]

Frank De Boer could return to Ajax next summer as Chivu's replacement. His contract will be up and he can end his career there.

[The Rule]

Originally posted by Strike
The Rule I can say you to 100% if he leave Ajax and barca can afford him, ( that the only question) because VG stays for sure,
he went to barca.

And I can say 100% that you have ***k all idea what you're talking about

[Strike]

(genius)Rule go to speak about Liverpool. That's better for you cause in the Dutch league you don't know anything.
Go and drink some Irish coffee then maybe you can think clear.
I think you are coming here to make trouble. I'm right?
Catholic or Protestant?

In Iedere geval ben jej een smierege Kipeneuker. All right?

And don't forget Litmanen has at Liverpool a shit time too.
He was beter for barca then for Liverpool. ;-)

[relejado]

Originally posted by AZULGRANA

Frank De Boer could return to Ajax next summer as Chivu's replacement. His contract will be up and he can end his career there.


yeah, that's really the best rumour I heared for weeks !

[BLAUGRANA]

Originally posted by Strike


And don't forget Litmanen has at Liverpool a shit time too.
He was beter for barca then for Liverpool. ;-)