2002/2003 FC Barcelona Official Transfers and Transfer Rumours Thread [Archive] - Page 3

BLAUGRANA

08-17-2002, 06:15 AM

Originally posted by Roberto Abrego
I think the deal isnt done yet :(

IT'S NOT!!!! I hope it stays that way too!

I do not want Jardel. Not at 3 million pounds AND Geovanni. He's had a good career and done the business in the CL, but he's having personal problems right now. Furthermore, he always seems to have problems with his clubs. Now that Rivaldo is gone, we don't need that anymore. And where's he gonna play in LVG's system? I'd prefer they go and get someone else or just see how Dani does this season and wait until next summer. Remember, Dani's never been given a fair chance at Barca. He was great with Mallorca, even in the Uefa Cup when they made it to the final.

Besides, we need defensive cover more than we do another striker.

nismo

08-17-2002, 09:42 AM

jardel should make sure his life's sorted out before resuming his career, i dont want to read how he hanged himself in the dressing after losing a game

Olesen10

08-17-2002, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by nismo
i dont want to read how he hanged himself in the dressing after losing a game
Neither will I! :evil: I don't think Geovanni has played very good, so IMO we could use him to get another player (A defender or an attacker.) I don't care if it's Jardel, Hasselbaink or Tristan, as long as they score goals and helps the club. IMO we don't need a new defender. Of course we could always need a backup, but now that we only play with three defenders, it's okay with only Puyol, De Boer and Navarro IMO.

BLAUGRANA

08-18-2002, 04:31 AM

Originally posted by Olesen10

Neither will I! :evil: I don't think Geovanni has played very good, so IMO we could use him to get another player (A defender or an attacker.) I don't care if it's Jardel, Hasselbaink or Tristan, as long as they score goals and helps the club. IMO we don't need a new defender. Of course we could always need a backup, but now that we only play with three defenders, it's okay with only Puyol, De Boer and Navarro IMO.

The problem I have with letting Geo go is that I think he's more versatile than Jardel and he'd be of more use to us than Jardel is. Furthermore, he cost us a small fortune and letting him go for peanuts is bad business.

I think another defender is needed. Not necessarily a big signing, but someone decent. I'd also like someone versatile, who can play as a FB or CB.

FC Barca11

08-18-2002, 11:55 PM

I think the question is do we really need more firepower? With Mendieta, Saviola, Riquelme and Kliuvert, I feel we have great and abundant goal scorers. Against Newcastle and Legia we were able to put in 3 goals each. Newcaslt should have been 4 but oh woe is Kluivert with another P.K missed ;) My biggest fear for the team is the defence. Atlast Patrick Andersson is coming back, but he'll need a few games under his belt to get back to what he used to be. Plus he's old and getting older. Barcelona should get a younger more versatile defender. Ian Harte would be a great addition, though I still feel we should have kept Coco.

Azerkid

08-19-2002, 12:26 AM

Anyone know how much Roque Junior would cost??? He's been on the transfer list and i thought maybe for a good price he can be obtained. ;)

BLAUGRANA

08-19-2002, 03:12 AM

Originally posted by FC Barca11
I think the question is do we really need more firepower? With Mendieta, Saviola, Riquelme and Kliuvert, I feel we have great and abundant goal scorers. Against Newcastle and Legia we were able to put in 3 goals each. Newcaslt should have been 4 but oh woe is Kluivert with another P.K missed ;) My biggest fear for the team is the defence. Atlast Patrick Andersson is coming back, but he'll need a few games under his belt to get back to what he used to be. Plus he's old and getting older. Barcelona should get a younger more versatile defender. Ian Harte would be a great addition, though I still feel we should have kept Coco.

I still think we could do with one more striker. Maybe not right away, but if Barca are supposedly looking for a striker then I think our discussion is warranted. After all, I think most Barca fans would rather we brought in someone other than Jardel. Also, Mendieta and Riquelme are midfielders. While they contribute offensively, they will not score too many goals. We'll have to see. Also, remember that the Newcastle game was a preseason one and that Legia aren't the strongest opponents we'll face all season.

I agree that another defender is needed. I would rather we waited though and brought in someone young and of quality rather than make a quick purchase just for cover. Ian Harte for me is not good enough. He's a decent player, but if Leeds are willing to offload one of their top goal sources then he musn't be that great. I think Coco wanted to go back to Italy in the end. Also, he would have cost a pretty penny as we only had him on loan last season. I wish we'd have kept Sergi. He was still good enough IMO. Whether he would have been a starter is another story. I'm happy with De Boer and prefer him over Andersson. I also love Puyol (my fav Barca player) and think Navarro is gonna be a good one. I would try and pick up Chivu. I think he's versatile in terms of where he can play in the defense and that he is a Barca type of player.

Bier

08-19-2002, 08:28 AM

First: Welcome on board FCB11 :)

I don't think we need any striker, but we need Jardel. The man scores 125 goals in 120 games for Porto and another 42 in 30 for Sporting. He's the most profilic goalgetter I know and if we don't get him maybe some other La Liga team gets him and that may cause hard concurrence since I am sure Jardel won't lose his incredible scoring-abilities in La Liga. :star:

Olesen10

08-19-2002, 10:36 AM

I've read that LVG should be interested in Juan Carlos Valeron from Depor. He was one of the best for Spain during the WC IMO.
But I can't see him fit in our system though, we already have a lot of midfielders, and should concentrate about the defense.

nismo

08-19-2002, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by Azerkid
Anyone know how much Roque Junior would cost??? He's been on the transfer list and i thought maybe for a good price he can be obtained. ;)
junior?? :cry:
he sux. maybe he was good at the worldcup, but outside of the NT, he's a very average player. You might as well keep Christanval instead of splashing cash that you'll never see again. Look at some ac milan tapes to see what i mean.

Strike

08-19-2002, 04:42 PM

I think thats a good Idea to take him in ---- if we have enough
money, but have we? He's well a great player and gone to play well in the barca system, but's not good if we make minus and can sell at last our ground like real madrid. We are pontential
good enough to beat everyone if we are willing to do that.
I hope that our board make the right choice....

Bier

08-19-2002, 10:42 PM

Welcome on board, strike.

Honestly I see thing same as Patrick Kluivert who declared yesterday that Barça's strike force is good enough the way it is momentually. In contrary I am a big admirerof Jardel ... he has something noone had since Eusebio and Gerd Müller. It's not easy to be declared but it makes him score more goals then play games ... I say: If we need a striker, let's go for him.
Though I would all but refuse seeing Tristan in blaugrana :) ... in the end we can't have em all. ;) :D

Azerkid

08-19-2002, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by nismo

junior?? :cry:
he sux. maybe he was good at the worldcup, but outside of the NT, he's a very average player. You might as well keep Christanval instead of splashing cash that you'll never see again. Look at some ac milan tapes to see what i mean.

Roque hasnt played any games for AC after his performance in WC, so you never know, he might carry that form from WC into the Seria A when it begins.

FC Barca11

08-20-2002, 12:47 AM

What do you guys think about the possible arrival of Aston Villa's turkish defender Alpay Ozalan. I think he certainly proved his talent during the world cup with Turkey's run to the semi's. But do you think he'd be able to fit into Van Gaal's 3 man defence? I ask because a few weeks ago planetfootball had reported that Barcelona were monitoring the defender's situation with Aston Villa, and now he is desperate to get away. I'm not sure how much he'd cost but is he worth the effort to lure to the Nou Camp?

Roberto Abrego

08-20-2002, 03:40 AM

Olesen10

08-20-2002, 06:06 AM

I don't know about Zenden...Isn't he playing Overmars' position?
I'd prefer Overmars over Zenden if he is. And I still think tht it's our defense or attack who needs a new player, not our midfield.

Bier

08-20-2002, 06:18 AM

The good thing about Zenden is that he's versatile. I still hear myself screaming when LVG made the decision to play him as left back ... but it worked. He was better then on the left wing, where his crosses always met the back of a defender. :D He's running fast and a lot. But I think momentually there's no place for him in our midfield and not even on the bench I fear.

Bier

08-20-2002, 06:23 AM

Defenders Barça are watching seldomly arrive at the Camp Nou. It must be a short action just like when we bought Christanval or Dehu. I dunno Alpay or his play but another defender would be good IMO, though I'd like to see us sign Leverkusens Placente, whom I got the possibility to watch every week and am impressed by.

Olesen10

08-20-2002, 09:03 AM

Such a good player, and we can't use him, it says something about how good this team are.

FC Barca11

08-20-2002, 11:52 AM

I agree, Placente was vital to Bayer Leverkusen's run in the Champion's League. There were rumours that Barca were looking at him, but I don't know how willing Leverkusen would be to let him go. After the loss of Ze Roberto and Ballack, Placente would probably be unlikely no?

nismo

08-21-2002, 04:34 AM

Originally posted by Azerkid

Roque hasnt played any games for AC after his performance in WC, so you never know, he might carry that form from WC into the Seria A when it begins.
yeah, but as my friend skualo once said, playing with the likes of roberto carlos, cafu, lucio, marcos, silva and edmilson is totally different to playing in a ac milan defence that consist's of defensively unreliable players and with only one worldclass defender (maldini) whose on the verge of reitring.
if he came to barca he'll be a liability
he;s gonna rely on Frank, Navarro, Andersson and Puyol to bail him out when he stuffs up.

Azerkid

08-21-2002, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by nismo

yeah, but as my friend skualo once said, playing with the likes of roberto carlos, cafu, lucio, marcos, silva and edmilson is totally different to playing in a ac milan defence that consist's of defensively unreliable players and with only one worldclass defender (maldini) whose on the verge of reitring.
if he came to barca he'll be a liability
he;s gonna rely on Frank, Navarro, Andersson and Puyol to bail him out when he stuffs up.

AC has a defence??? :rolleyes:

Anyway if he does come here than we have veterans who will help, and i dont think he's gonna be awful since Seria A puts more pressure on great D than the Liga.

BLAUGRANA

08-22-2002, 06:34 AM

Originally posted by Roberto Abrego

yes someone like Zenden,I will love to see him back at Barca :)

I'd prefer we just went after Van der Vaart instead. :D

BLAUGRANA

08-22-2002, 06:38 AM

Originally posted by FC Barca11
I agree, Placente was vital to Bayer Leverkusen's run in the Champion's League. There were rumours that Barca were looking at him, but I don't know how willing Leverkusen would be to let him go. After the loss of Ze Roberto and Ballack, Placente would probably be unlikely no?

They'd sell him. The thing is Barca would have to pay a lot more than they have to spend and a lot more than Placente is worth.

BLAUGRANA

08-22-2002, 06:41 AM

Welcome Strike! Tristan huh. A poster after my own heart.
I too would love to see Tristan at Barca. If only the money were flowing the same for LVG as it was for his predecessor's.

Strike

08-22-2002, 08:14 AM

What's on now with tristan?, I always see news about him on
on sport.es but I can't spain. Go we on for sign him or not?

FC Barca11

08-22-2002, 02:06 PM

Tristan might have some competition coming to Barca. Check out www.planetfootball.com and go to the Barca section. Its official, Jimmy Floyd Hasslebaink has issued a "come and get me" plea to Barcelona!!!! I'd still rather see Tristan at Barca only because he is younger than JFH and has had more experience playin in La Liga. JFH spent what 1 season with Athletico Madrid?

Juanele

08-22-2002, 04:02 PM

Albert Luque, nueva opción para ser el '9' azulgrana

El jugador catalán siempre se ha mostrado ilusionado por la que sería una vuelta a casa triunfal

Manuel Segura / BARCELONA

22/08/02 03:00 h.Ni es serpiente de verano, ni especulación mediática, ni nada parecido sino un constatado interés del FC Barcelona por adquirir los servicios de Albert Luque. El frustrado fichaje del brasileño Jardel y la edad de Hasselbaink han decidido al presidente, Joan Gaspart, a estudiar detenidamente su adquisición.

Presión a Kluivert

Luque, que ha sido noticia estos últimos días por las largísimas negociaciones para recalar en el Deportivo, ya había sido tasado en 14´1 millones de euros (2.350 millones de ptas.) No obstante, aún le restaba cuadrar sus números de ficha y duración. Tal circunstancia ha sido aprovechada por Gaspart para saber la situación de un delantero centro cuyos goles inquietarían a Kluivert.

Dos razones más: los mallorquinistas estarían abiertos a la posibilidad de contar, cedido, con Dani Garcia. Aunque ya ha repetido muchas veces que no se moverá, volver a la isla es una variante a estudiar. Y, una segunda: los vermellones aceptarían cómodos plazos en el pago.

El Madrid molesta

Y, a todo esto, desde el Real Madrid amenazan con intentar torpedear el fichaje ya que con Ronaldo no lo tienen muy claro. Por ahora, parece que la opción azulgrana es más factible, pero Florentino Pérez ahora ha despertado con Luque y el pulso está echado. Y Deportivo y Valencia también lo quieren

Strike

08-22-2002, 04:09 PM

I think if we sign a striker it should be tristan. He's younger than
JFH and I think he's better too.Now I have heard something about Luque. I don't know what Luque has to do with this?
I hope that we get Tristan if we sign a striker it's the best option.

Juanele

08-22-2002, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by Strike
What's on now with tristan?, I always see news about him on
on sport.es but I can't spain. Go we on for sign him or not?

I wouldn't pay a lot of attention to Diario Sport. They are a rumor paper that will spread any kind of rumor, in fact they make up a lot of stuff. They are similar to Diario AS (based in Madrid).

Juanele

08-22-2002, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by FC Barca11
I'd still rather see Tristan at Barca only because he is younger than JFH and has had more experience playin in La Liga. JFH spent what 1 season with Athletico Madrid?

Yes, and Atlético dropped to Segunda. Not sure if Hasselbaink was a cause of that but he is a greedy player (like Rivaldo). Diego Tristán is a great player but he is too similar to Kluivert. It certainly would be pretty to watch those two play but I'm not sure how effective it would be. A Kluivert - Hasselbaink tandom would be more effective than a Kluivert - Tristán tandom.

I'm puzzled by Barça here though. Scoring will not be a problem this season but they still are going after a "9". What they need to do is shore up the defense but if anything they have weakend it with the offseason moves.

Strike

08-22-2002, 04:27 PM

Yes, Juanele what do you think, are barca signing tristan or not?

nismo

08-22-2002, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by Azerkid

AC has a defence??? :rolleyes:

Anyway if he does come here than we have veterans who will help, and i dont think he's gonna be awful since Seria A puts more pressure on great D than the Liga.
yes i know ac milan sux :rolleyes:

even if he came, barca already has it's quota of non-EU players maxed out, so it'll be pointless to buy him now, and christianval is about as good as roque as well, so why don't let the vets help him instead :dontcare:

Juanele

08-22-2002, 05:00 PM

Originally posted by Strike
Yes, Juanele what do you think, are barca signing tristan or not?

I'd say no. However, Van Gaal seems to really want this player (he also wanted Jardel as well). Actually I wouldn't be surprised to see Luque to be at Barça before any of these players.

elpep

08-22-2002, 07:12 PM

I can only think of one reason why we would want to buy Diego Tristan - to replace Kluivert. They are two very similar players, too similar to warrant buying Diego Tristan. Personally I don't think Kluivert and Tristan could play together. If they did, Saviola would be on the bench!!! As has been said before Jardel or Luque would be better buys. Also I think we should swap Dani for Quaresma and loan Quaresma back to Sporting for a couple of seasons.

hollowi

08-22-2002, 09:32 PM

First of all:
1 GBP = 1.56893 EUR
1 EUR = 0.637376 GBP

So, some 12M € is not 10M £, it's about 7.6 or something.

Second:
As we all know, Barca was after Chelsea striker Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink (a shorter name would be great ;) ) but they never agreed the price. Now Hasselbaink is quoted as saying: "Barca are a huge and club and van Gaal is one of the best managers. It is an excellent combination and I would like to be part of it."

Hopefully his wishes come to be if Tristan deal turns down. Still, I prefer Tristan to JFH. Hasselbaink would be a great possibility for signing since Chelsea need to reduce their squad because of their debts.

Another EPL-based signing, Ian Harte, would be more important IMO. Though, you never know.

hollowi

08-22-2002, 09:41 PM

I'm definitely in for Tristan. He knows La Primera and isn't old yet so he would be a great signing. Compared to JFH and Super Mario, Tristan is far better. As for Jardel, I'm very unsure about him. I just hope LVG doesn't sign him because there may be a danger that he can't play as good as he played in Portuguese league. Also 30 is too old to be bought for maybe not more than 2 years.

FC Barca11

08-22-2002, 11:03 PM

Welcome elpep, I presume you are the same one from soccerage's board ;)

FC Barca11

08-22-2002, 11:09 PM

FC Barca11

08-22-2002, 11:14 PM

I for one feel our defensive problems outweigh our offensive wishes. With the players we have now we would be able to score plenty of goals. I don't know how much the Legia game warrants that, but the Newcastle game showed we were up to it. But still, I don't think Barca's defensive sides have even been that great. With Andersson back, it'd be a bit better but I think Van Gaal should still focus his energies in investing on a class defender. But who? As far as the defenders on the market goes, well, there are few and far. Placente would cost too much, Alpay was a choice but wouldn't warrant as a good signing in 2 years time. But, if Alpay signs for Leeds (he's in talks with them) wouldn't there be a better chance that we'd be able to sign Harte? If all else fails, might as well put our trust in Christanval and hope for the best.

Azerkid

08-22-2002, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by hollowi
First of all:
1 GBP = 1.56893 EUR
1 EUR = 0.637376 GBP

So, some 12M € is not 10M £, it's about 7.6 or something.

Second:
As we all know, Barca was after Chelsea striker Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink (a shorter name would be great ;) ) but they never agreed the price. Now Hasselbaink is quoted as saying: "Barca are a huge and club and van Gaal is one of the best managers. It is an excellent combination and I would like to be part of it."

Hopefully his wishes come to be if Tristan deal turns down. Still, I prefer Tristan to JFH. Hasselbaink would be a great possibility for signing since Chelsea need to reduce their squad because of their debts.

Another EPL-based signing, Ian Harte, would be more important IMO. Though, you never know.

JFH or Tristan..... It wouldn't matter to me who we got since they are same quality just as long as we got one of them.

About Harte, I dont think we need him, he not a hard defender, he likes to attack and score on setpieces, and is 29 and has hisshare of injuries so i think i would b better to get a hard-nosed defender to keep the back solid and organized instead of a attacking defender.

BLAUGRANA

08-23-2002, 02:44 AM

Originally posted by Juanele

Yes, and Atlético dropped to Segunda. Not sure if Hasselbaink was a cause of that but he is a greedy player (like Rivaldo). Diego Tristán is a great player but he is too similar to Kluivert. It certainly would be pretty to watch those two play but I'm not sure how effective it would be. A Kluivert - Hasselbaink tandom would be more effective than a Kluivert - Tristán tandom.

I think saying JFH is greedy the like Rivaldo is a bit harsh. I'm not saying he's not at all greedy, but he had other reasons surely. Moving to Leeds United was a step up in league stature. Moving to Atletico Madrid from Leeds was a step up in club stature (at that time). Moving to Chelsea meant playing in a top league as opposed to Segunda. Seriously, name a big name striker like JFH who would have agreed to play in Segunda. Besides, it was also in the best interests of Atletico. Leaving Chelsea seems a bit more greedy to me, but then again the club seems to really be going downhill. So, I don't think he's that greedy.
And I don't think JFH was a cause for them dropping down. He scored a boatload of goals for them that season. Something like 21 to 24 goals.

I still think a Tristan-Kluivert partnership would be very effective. They were the two top scorers in La Liga last season. JFH-Kluivert would be good too though.

BLAUGRANA

08-23-2002, 02:50 AM

Originally posted by Juanele

I'm puzzled by Barça here though. Scoring will not be a problem this season but they still are going after a "9". What they need to do is shore up the defense but if anything they have weakend it with the offseason moves.

Actually, LVG said today that he wants to bring a fullback in too.
Here's the article from the club's official website:

Van Gaal went on to stress he wanted more new signings: “I can’t go into details about possible new players, because any publicity just complicates things, but I can say that we’re more in need of a forward than a full back right now. Any player we do sign, will have to come here before the end of this month.”

I hope it's Tristan, but JFH would be ok too. I read JFH would cost about 8 million pounds.

BLAUGRANA

08-23-2002, 02:51 AM

I'm gonna merge this thread with the transfers and rumours thread.

BLAUGRANA

08-23-2002, 02:58 AM

Originally posted by Juanele

I'd say no. However, Van Gaal seems to really want this player (he also wanted Jardel as well). Actually I wouldn't be surprised to see Luque to be at Barça before any of these players.

Luque says he's about 24-48 hours away from joining Depor. I think this could make the Tristan rumour a bit more probable than first considered.

BLAUGRANA

08-23-2002, 03:01 AM

Originally posted by hollowi
First of all:
1 GBP = 1.56893 EUR
1 EUR = 0.637376 GBP

So, some 12M € is not 10M £, it's about 7.6 or something.

Second:
As we all know, Barca was after Chelsea striker Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink (a shorter name would be great ;) ) but they never agreed the price. Now Hasselbaink is quoted as saying: "Barca are a huge and club and van Gaal is one of the best managers. It is an excellent combination and I would like to be part of it."

Hopefully his wishes come to be if Tristan deal turns down. Still, I prefer Tristan to JFH. Hasselbaink would be a great possibility for signing since Chelsea need to reduce their squad because of their debts.

Another EPL-based signing, Ian Harte, would be more important IMO. Though, you never know.

Yeah, that's about right for JFH's fee. Not bad IMO. Chelsea really need the money too. If we don't get Tristan, I say get JFH.

I wouldn't go after Ian Harte though. He's good at set pieces, but I don't rate him as a defender. I'd rather we went after someone else.

nismo

08-23-2002, 03:46 AM

Originally posted by AZULGRANA

Yeah, that's about right for JFH's fee. Not bad IMO. Chelsea really need the money too. If we don't get Tristan, I say get JFH.

I wouldn't go after Ian Harte though. He's good at set pieces, but I don't rate him as a defender. I'd rather we went after someone else.
Harte sux as defender
i've seen him play, and when it comes to chasing strikers and sliding, he sux in every department.
Would you beleieve that even Beckham burned him down the flanks? and becks is not even fast, but harte couldn't do anything to stop him.
If braca's gonna get harte, all he'll be good is set pieces, that's about it.
JFH would be a brilliant alternative to jardel or tristan. he's got one mean foot, people rated him with the strongest shot in EPL. he defnitiely give roberto carlos a run for his money to who could smack the ball harder. But one down point to JFH is he can drift out of a game, if the tempo's not suiting him, or he;s been man marked closely.

hollowi

08-23-2002, 10:53 AM

JFH deal is getting closer and closer and I quote "JIMMY FLOYD HASSELBAINK'S agent has confirmed that his client would move to Barcelona, should the Catalan giants make an official offer"

Also, LVG has said that a striker is at the top of his wanted list (well this one we knew).

JFH said that "Barcelona are one of the big clubs and Louis van Gaal one of the best coaches in the world.

'We are talking about an excellent combination and I would like to form part of it.

'At the moment, Barcelona have the potential to win the Champions League and I could contribute to that."

A good thing about JFH compared to Tristan is his strength. Also JFH seems to be very intrested in moving and Chelsea don't need him too much since they have Eidur Gudjohnsen and Mikael Forssell who both are young and high quality.

As for the defender; if he's to be left back maybe Hakan Ünsal or Ergün Penbe from Galatasaray. They're great defenders and can take a hit or two without whining as we saw in the World Cup. Too bad Turkey didn't win Brazil in the Semis :o

Azerkid

08-24-2002, 02:55 AM

Originally posted by nismo

Harte sux as defender
i've seen him play, and when it comes to chasing strikers and sliding, he sux in every department.
Would you beleieve that even Beckham burned him down the flanks? and becks is not even fast, but harte couldn't do anything to stop him.
If braca's gonna get harte, all he'll be good is set pieces, that's about it.
JFH would be a brilliant alternative to jardel or tristan. he's got one mean foot, people rated him with the strongest shot in EPL. he defnitiely give roberto carlos a run for his money to who could smack the ball harder. But one down point to JFH is he can drift out of a game, if the tempo's not suiting him, or he;s been man marked closely.

I totally agree !!!!!!

even JFH or Tristan would be better defenders on our squad than Harte, who is only know by his setpieces. :rolleyes:

BLAUGRANA

08-24-2002, 07:00 AM

Not that we could get him, but I think young Riise of Liverfool would be a great signing. He's really got a good all around game and is already a topnotch player at a very young age (he's 20-21). I'm not a huge fan of his in terms of liking him, but as a player he's one of the best already.

FC Barca11

08-25-2002, 02:51 PM

Check this article out on

http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=104893&clid=&cpid=&Title=Gaspart+admits+Jimmy+talks

It seems to contradict everything JFH's agent said on www.soccerage.com

But in either case, Barca do seem more interested in JFH than Tristan.

Olesen10

08-25-2002, 06:19 PM

I don't think we'll get JFH, though the Barca shirt would look good on him as a player...
You all say Tristan, but i don't think he's moving to Barca. I'd say get a young talent like Saviola for little moneyn and count on him in the future, in stead of buying an expensive star. IMO it isn't our attack who needs new players, its our defence. Our maybe we don't need any new players...?

BLAUGRANA

08-26-2002, 04:45 AM

Originally posted by Olesen10
I don't think we'll get JFH, though the Barca shirt would look good on him as a player...
You all say Tristan, but i don't think he's moving to Barca. I'd say get a young talent like Saviola for little moneyn and count on him in the future, in stead of buying an expensive star. IMO it isn't our attack who needs new players, its our defence. Our maybe we don't need any new players...?

I agree that the defense lacks depth more than the attack, but we could still use a striker. A young player would probably be the smartest thing and most economical considering Barca's current financial situation. Cavenaghi of River Plate probably would be a good buy. I don't think he'd cost that much either.

BLAUGRANA

08-26-2002, 04:50 AM

Well, here's what i've read. I've read that Chelsea still owe us 5 million pounds from the Petit/Zenden transfer deal that happened last summer. I also read that this money is due by the end of this month. So, it's thought that we could just get JFH for free and that Chelsea wouldn't pay us the 5 million pounds they owe us. How is this possible you ask? Well, Chelsea are some 96 million pounds in debt and have to get $$$. So, the whole deal makes sense. It's a bit optimistic I think, but it makes so much sense that I think it's probable. If this is all that JFH will cost us, I say go for it. We'll all know by August 31st if any new players are coming because after that the squad should be set.

Think about it though. JFH and 5 million pounds for Zended and Petit. I think it we get JFH for free, this will have been a very good deal for us in the end.

Olesen10

08-26-2002, 08:38 AM

IF we can get JFH for free, I'd be a really good deal! But if he's exspensive, I'd say go for an youngster...

Strike

08-26-2002, 04:08 PM

Yes it's a nice Idea Azu but i don't think it comes true, cause
you are right with that chelsea needs money and if it's true that
they must pay us 5 millions so I think they said we want 6 or seven too, than you can get him, that means 11-12 millions.
And should it realy come true we get him or free, its not a good
deal, it's a PERFECT deal. But what I hope is, and that know you
AZU and that now I cause we are both interestet in ajax too,
to get Rafael and Chivu for next year. If the JFH deal comes true its good but if the Van der Vaart and chivu deal goes on and comes true I think barca have one of the strongest squads in all
time.

BLAUGRANA

08-26-2002, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by Strike
Yes it's a nice Idea Azu but i don't think it comes true, cause
you are right with that chelsea needs money and if it's true that
they must pay us 5 millions so I think they said we want 6 or seven too, than you can get him, that means 11-12 millions.
And should it realy come true we get him or free, its not a good
deal, it's a PERFECT deal. But what I hope is, and that know you
AZU and that now I cause we are both interestet in ajax too,
to get Rafael and Chivu for next year. If the JFH deal comes true its good but if the Van der Vaart and chivu deal goes on and comes true I think barca have one of the strongest squads in all
time.

Nice to see you back strike. Now all you need is a Barca avatar next to your name. :D

Your math for the JFH transfer looks a bit dodgy though. Here's what it looks like.

JFH 5/7 million
subtract the 5 chelsea owe us -5 million
---------------------------------------------------------------
meaning he would cost 2 million

I would love to see Chivu and Van der Vaart at Barca. Problem is Barca will really need to have a great season and earn some cash in order to get this pair. They would be great though and fit right in with the current squad. I think if we sold some of the excess it'd help get some cash. Also, I think the BARCAPEOPLE project will bring in $$$.

FC Barca11

08-28-2002, 12:14 AM

http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=105128&clid=&cpid=&Title=Inter+offer+Ronaldo+to+Barca

Interesting article. So what do you guys think. Would it be possible to sign Ronaldo on loan for a season?

Azerkid

08-28-2002, 01:57 AM

I hope so, because Ronaldo & Kluivert have been my dream striking partnership. ;)

Roberto Abrego

08-28-2002, 03:44 AM

mine was Rivaldo and Ronaldo but now is Kluivert and Rivaldo to!

BLAUGRANA

08-28-2002, 05:32 AM

This from the club's official website. I don't know if it includes the Ronaldo rumour though.

No more signings

Tuesday 27 August 2002 20:15 (BCN)

F.C. Barcelona have officially announced that in line with the recommendations of its technical staff, the club have been analyzing the possibility of signing a new player to add to the squad before the new season begins.

In particular, talks have been held with a number of clubs with whom Barca maintain good relations, amongst them Chelsea, with the idea of signing a center forward. Given the differences between the parties involved, it has not been possible to reach any agreement and Barca have decided in these circumstances to call off the negotiations.

F.C.Barcelona wish to make it known that the squad is now closed and that the technical staff believe that any further additions can be covered by the players in the reserve and youth teams.

BLAUGRANA

08-28-2002, 06:25 AM

Originally posted by FC Barca11
http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=105128&clid=&cpid=&Title=Inter+offer+Ronaldo+to+Barca

Interesting article. So what do you guys think. Would it be possible to sign Ronaldo on loan for a season?

Anythings possible in football. However, I really don't want to see this happen.

I don't want that greedy piece of garbage anywhere near Barca. We just got rid of that troublemaker Rivaldo and now we may bring in another one who's 10 times as worse? No thanks. The only positives he could bring to Barca are goals (assuming he doesn't get hurt in his first game and jet off to Brazil for the remainder of the season to recuperate) and $$$ from merchandising sales. He'd also be another Figo. Have you guys heard he may already have signed a pre-contract with Real Madrid? If so, I hope Inter and Fifa make Real pay out their @$$ and that Fifa ban Real from European competition for 5 years. Figo did the same thing to us. And don't forget that Ronaldo left Barca for Inter in the past.

GERMANIC

08-28-2002, 02:44 PM

what was his motivation for leaving last time? i think it was a problem with van gaal at the time, which is why he brought Kluivert to the club?

hollowi

08-28-2002, 05:08 PM

I think we should loan Ronaldo. There's no risk of losing 75M € which I think was what Inter were asking for him if he gets injured, and if he doesn't Barca gets him for how much his wages ever are. It's hardly reasonable to buy Ronaldo after the loaned season (if it even goes through in the couple days that are left). At least I wouldn't want to buy an overrated player who has left the club once before. Of course Ronaldo is worth more than Real's 15M (They would get about that much for Ronaldo merchandise in one year :eek:) but not more than 30M. And I think that Barca fans don't want to see some mercenary who's ready to spend a year or two in the club.

Overall: Loan good, buy bad.

Bier

08-28-2002, 05:46 PM

I totally back hollowi's opinion. Ronaldo should be loaned and prove that he's worth all the money we could pay for him next year. ;)

Another former Barça-star found his way back to Barcelona by the way:
http://www.optasoccer.com/article.asp?id=105273&clid=&cpid=23&Title=De+La+Pena+earns+Espanyol+deal
I have never watched Espanyol matches with the passion I'll do this season. :star: I hope Ivan will be given a fair chance now after we missed out for the second time two years ago.
Come on Little Buddha! Prove your brilliance! :star:
Need to work on my avatar soon. ;)

Strike

08-28-2002, 06:29 PM

Maybe you'll be right Azu, but don't forget Ronaldo has two faces
at one side he's a good player ----> right, but at the other side
look what is he doing at inter? He's gonna make trouble,
and that we don't need. By the way I've read that ronaldo
deal Inter-real goes on at new. I'm not so happy with the ronaldo Idea, so as I say Rafi and Chivu and I'll be happy ;-).

VivaBarcaInter

08-28-2002, 08:33 PM

I think getting Ronaldo on loan for a year would be a good thing. As a Barca fan, and Inter fan AND someone who has worshipped Ronaldo for a long time, recent things have not been good for me. But apparently, he's only causing trouble because he wants to play in Spain. And since Barca start their new 45-50 million per season TV deal next season, they would have the money if they decided to buy him.

BLAUGRANA

08-29-2002, 02:35 AM

Originally posted by GERMANIC
what was his motivation for leaving last time? i think it was a problem with van gaal at the time, which is why he brought Kluivert to the club?

He left just as Sir Bobby Robson was leaving and LVG was coming in. I think it was the lure of the Serie A (and $$$ of course) that led him to Inter.

BLAUGRANA

08-29-2002, 02:37 AM

Originally posted by Bier
I totally back hollowi's opinion. Ronaldo should be loaned and prove that he's worth all the money we could pay for him next year. ;)

Another former Barça-star found his way back to Barcelona by the way:
http://www.optasoccer.com/article.asp?id=105273&clid=&cpid=23&Title=De+La+Pena+earns+Espanyol+deal
I have never watched Espanyol matches with the passion I'll do this season. :star: I hope Ivan will be given a fair chance now after we missed out for the second time two years ago.
Come on Little Buddha! Prove your brilliance! :star:
Need to work on my avatar soon. ;)

I'm glad that De La Pena has finally found a club who will give him playing time.

BLAUGRANA

08-29-2002, 02:41 AM

Originally posted by VivaBarcaInter
But apparently, he's only causing trouble because he wants to play in Spain.

I think it's more than that. He wants to play for Real.

Well, he's not coming. THANK GOD! I knew LVG would balk at the deal. Smart man. I wouldn't have minded too much, but I really think he would disrupt the "team" atmosphere that seems to be present. Many Real players didn't even want him there. I really do think it's a good thing.

BLAUGRANA

08-29-2002, 02:44 AM

I read that Depor may be willing to part with him in an effort to bring in either Ronaldinho or Crespo. A bit of fantasy I think, but the report did say Barca were interested in Tristan but that they didn't have enough $$$. I really do want Tristan at Barca. What if Saviola or Kluivert got injured? They could sell a mid to raise some cash to bring him in. I doubt it with the transfer deadline fast approaching, but never say never.

hollowi

08-29-2002, 03:17 PM

While the transfer deadline is closing it seems more and more unlikely for Barca to sign anyone new. Not also the tight schedule the Barca technical committee has said that no more signings. I hope we'll see Tristan in January (I REALLY want him to be at Barca in January cos I'm seeing my first Barca live game at 19th Jan against Valencia).

I was excited what LVG would do with Ronaldo loan deal and I can't say I'd be disappointed turning the deal down.

Depor's Ronaldinho or Crespo seems unlikely but if Tristan comes to Nou Camp while the $$$ would be going to La Coruña it may seem more likely. And that's what they need if they're bringing in the likes of Crespo or Ronaldinho.

Olesen10

08-29-2002, 08:29 PM

I have to admit, I would have loved to see Ronaldo back in the Barca-shirt again 'cause he's a magician on the field! But I also see your point with him being greedy and stuff. It's those brazilians...:)
But I also think that we have a very strong team and could get fine position in the league! I think our strongest side is our midfield.

Bier

08-29-2002, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by Bier
Need to work on my avatar soon. ;)
It's ready now ... but somehow I can not upload it at the moment. :(

BLAUGRANA

08-30-2002, 06:04 AM

Originally posted by Olesen10
I have to admit, I would have loved to see Ronaldo back in the Barca-shirt again 'cause he's a magician on the field! But I also see your point with him being greedy and stuff. It's those brazilians...:)
But I also think that we have a very strong team and could get fine position in the league! I think our strongest side is our midfield.

Yeah, we are very deep in midfield. I wish we'd sell Geo and bring in a defender or another striker.

Strike

08-30-2002, 07:41 AM

So now Luque is gone do depor.Maybe we can do now something
with Tristan but hurry.

FC Barca11

08-30-2002, 08:09 PM

If reports from Sport are right, foreget Tristan, MORIENTES, yes MORIENTES might be the new signing!!!!!!!

FC Barca11

08-30-2002, 08:10 PM

If reports from Sport are right, foreget Tristan, MORIENTES, yes MORIENTES might be the new signing!!!!!!!

I would applaud Joan Gaspart if he could actually sign him. In a way i guess it'd make up for losing Figo (he's still a traitor)

Bier

08-30-2002, 08:37 PM

Yeah ... El Mundo Deportivo and AS report that as well ... now let's wait for Marca to confirm it ;)
I've always been a big admirer of Morientes and would love to see him in Blaugrana. :star:

Bier

08-30-2002, 08:43 PM

YES IT WORKS !!! :star:
I'm waiting for Congrats on my new avatar. ;) :D

FC Barca11

08-30-2002, 11:34 PM

Nice avatar :) Congratulations ;)

BLAUGRANA

08-30-2002, 11:52 PM

Originally posted by Bier
Yeah ... El Mundo Deportivo and AS report that as well ... now let's wait for Marca to confirm it ;)
I've always been a big admirer of Morientes and would love to see him in Blaugrana. :star:

What's that ugly shirt that De La Pena's wearing in your new avatar? :D

Morientes is a good striker and I think he'd do well at Barca. Problem is he's injury prone and he would cost a lot of money that Barca just doesn't have. We'll see, but I doubt it. His injury prone past really does worry me though.

Bier

08-31-2002, 12:55 AM

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
What's that ugly shirt that De La Pena's wearing in your new avatar? :D

Hope you guys are not too shocked if I tell ya that I need such a shirt with De La Pena on the back. I already got one of those from Barça and Marseille. Where's Lazio you might ask? That would've been too much. :D
Seriously I've never seen Espanyol as Rivals, neither hate them ... to me they are the Barcelona-version of the LA Clippers ;) ... I even like em a bit, by now at least. ;)

Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Morientes is a good striker and I think he'd do well at Barca. Problem is he's injury prone and he would cost a lot of money that Barca just doesn't have. We'll see, but I doubt it. His injury prone past really does worry me though.

Never mind his injuries ... we've got strengh in deph ... the days we depend on one player are over. :)

Strike

08-31-2002, 09:54 AM

Guys I think that we have no more signings this season, Ronaldo
don't came to Real and so Morientes stays at Real. And I don't
know of is this a good Idea to sign him, I would going to sign
Tristan if we sign a Striker.

FC Barca11

08-31-2002, 09:52 PM

Hey guys, check this article out
http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=105661&clid=&cpid=&Title=New+twists+in+Ronaldo+saga

If all goes as proposed it had to be one of the most complex and exciting transfer sagas in the history of football. I mean, you've got to praise Massimo Moratti's cunningness. Sell Ronaldo to Real and Morientes to Barcelona THEN turn around and buy Crespo :) Jeez, i guess that explains why he is where he is ;) But honestly, like Azul said, do we really have the cash to fund another transfer of this proportion? Morientes isn't cheap. He's valued at $20 milllion, and i don't know where Gaspart ends to find that much. Barca people can only bring in so much along with the NFL contract and sponsor negotiations. What do u think? Morientes worth the $$??

Juanele

08-31-2002, 10:28 PM

It doesn't matter since the whole deal is off, at least the Barça part of the deal. As I said on some other sites, there was no way that Barça would willingly help Madrid. Gaspart strung this along to last possible moment and then nixed it. Madrid followed it like a donkey and carrot.

ramrock

09-01-2002, 01:09 AM

Face it we have no strikers only Kluivert and Saviola. dont expect any miracles from Dani. We need a striker. What happens if saviola and Kluivert seemed to be injured at the same time. No striker can play 60+ games a season. The we would have to play Enrique as a striker and all soerts of foolishness.We nnneeeedddd Morientes or Jardelor nothing else. Morientes is World Class. Let that Judas piece of Crap Ronaldo go and destroy madrid and we can once agin rule. I vote for the underrated Morientes.

BLAUGRANA

09-01-2002, 01:54 AM

Originally posted by Bier

Hope you guys are not too shocked if I tell ya that I need such a shirt with De La Pena on the back. I already got one of those from Barça and Marseille. Where's Lazio you might ask? That would've been too much. :D
Seriously I've never seen Espanyol as Rivals, neither hate them ... to me they are the Barcelona-version of the LA Clippers ;) ... I even like em a bit, by now at least. ;)

Never mind his injuries ... we've got strengh in deph ... the days we depend on one player are over. :)

I don't really look at Espanyol as fierce rivals either. Real Madrid take that role on rather well.

Stregth in depth is good to a point, but only if the players you have are good. Morientes is a good striker, but I'd really be worried he'd get hurt too easily. I'd still bid our time and wait on a striker. I still think Dani is a decent backup. What about Cavenaghi? I think he'd be pretty cheap and worth the risk.

BLAUGRANA

09-01-2002, 01:57 AM

Originally posted by Juanele
It doesn't matter since the whole deal is off, at least the Barça part of the deal. As I said on some other sites, there was no way that Barça would willingly help Madrid. Gaspart strung this along to last possible moment and then nixed it. Madrid followed it like a donkey and carrot.

LMAO!!! Like a donkey and a carrot??? HAHAHAHA. I like that one.

Well, we were reportedly interested in Morientes in the past. I think his price tag along with his personal demands are more likely what nixed the deal rather than Gaspart taking the piss out of Real. I think it's good he didn't come because I don't think he really wanted to. I don't want players who don't want to play for the club.

BLAUGRANA

09-01-2002, 02:08 AM

Originally posted by FC Barca11
Hey guys, check this article out
http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=105661&clid=&cpid=&Title=New+twists+in+Ronaldo+saga

If all goes as proposed it had to be one of the most complex and exciting transfer sagas in the history of football. I mean, you've got to praise Massimo Moratti's cunningness. Sell Ronaldo to Real and Morientes to Barcelona THEN turn around and buy Crespo :) Jeez, i guess that explains why he is where he is ;) But honestly, like Azul said, do we really have the cash to fund another transfer of this proportion? Morientes isn't cheap. He's valued at $20 milllion, and i don't know where Gaspart ends to find that much. Barca people can only bring in so much along with the NFL contract and sponsor negotiations. What do u think? Morientes worth the $$??

The BARCAPEOPLE money isn't even an option right now cause it hasn't even been launched yet. I forget how much it'd cost to join up, but I think it's like 30 euros. Say 1 million people sign up worldwide (Barca is a very popular club) then you'd have some good money. Also, it'll only be a one year deal if people sign up, so if it gets a million people a year that would be good revenue for the club. We'll have to see how it goes over.

I would have been happy with Morientes at a cheaper price. As it stands, i'm not really disappointed he isn't coming. Besides, I don't think he even wanted to come.

FC Barca11

09-01-2002, 04:19 AM

http://www.soccerage.com/en/13/g9169.html

Well, it looks like its official. Those bastards in white have managed to sign Ronaldo. I hope his egotistical selfish sorry a$$ completely destroys the team!!!!!!!

BLAUGRANA

09-01-2002, 05:31 AM

Originally posted by FC Barca11
http://www.soccerage.com/en/13/g9169.html

Well, it looks like its official. Those bastards in white have managed to sign Ronaldo. I hope his egotistical selfish sorry a$$ completely destroys the team!!!!!!!

He should fit in there just fine. I'm not worried though, i'm just concentrating on Barca and the team we have right now. I'm still optimistic about the coming season.

nerazzuri

09-01-2002, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by FC Barca11
http://www.soccerage.com/en/13/g9169.html

Well, it looks like its official. Those bastards in white have managed to sign Ronaldo. I hope his egotistical selfish sorry a$$ completely destroys the team!!!!!!!
let il gratto join those rich dicks... he'll prbably have another injury there

Olesen10

09-01-2002, 05:20 PM

I can't find words for what I feel about RM right now! Ronaldo is and will always be my favourite player, but words can not describe how much I hate RM for signing him. I know Ronaldo wanted that move, but man I hope that team is going down this season. Barca will teach them that no one, no one, can make so many divas work together as a unit! Rock on Barca, Ronaldo will hopefully know what a bad decison he's made!

Bier

09-01-2002, 05:57 PM

Ronaldo's knee won't make it for long anyway ... the only sad thig for me is that the Mori-deal fell through. :(

BLAUGRANA

09-01-2002, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by Olesen10
I can't find words for what I feel about RM right now! Ronaldo is and will always be my favourite player, but words can not describe how much I hate RM for signing him. I know Ronaldo wanted that move, but man I hope that team is going down this season. Barca will teach them that no one, no one, can make so many divas work together as a unit! Rock on Barca, Ronaldo will hopefully know what a bad decison he's made!

I can't be as upset with Real as much as I am with Ronaldo. I've never been a huge Ronaldo fan, but I definately hate him now for what he's done to Inter and Moratti. After all that Moratti and Inter did for him, this is how he repays them. Ronaldo is an embarassment.

BLAUGRANA

09-01-2002, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by Bier
Ronaldo's knee won't make it for long anyway ... the only sad thig for me is that the Mori-deal fell through. :(

Actually, I read somewhere today that if the d1ck gets hurt Real won't have to pay as much or something. It was very vague and it was in the Spanish press, so I don't put much stock into it. Who knows.

Morientes didn't really want to come to Barca from what I could tell. I would've have welcomed him with open arms, but not if he doesn't want to come. Better he stays at Real if he doesn't want to come. Let him sit on the bench there and see how he likes it. Or better yet, on the treatment table next to Il Mercenario's. :evil:

Olesen10

09-01-2002, 07:01 PM

I can't say that I'm sad about the Morientes deal. I think he's a bit overratet. And besides, the Barca shirt wouldn't look good on him. :)

hollowi

09-02-2002, 03:04 PM

Well I'm not worried actually about Ronaldo. Though Ronaldo-Raúl with Zidane behind sounds kinda scary, they're not so much as they're said. Those devils in white play the same game everybody does, they can only have 11 players in the field same time. Anyway, Real will prolly score 90 but concend 60 with all that pressure on the attacking end. Ronaldo will prolly trip on his teeth and fall to the post breaking his knee again.

nismo

09-03-2002, 05:27 AM

Originally posted by hollowi
Well I'm not worried actually about Ronaldo. Though Ronaldo-Raúl with Zidane behind sounds kinda scary, they're not so much as they're said. Those devils in white play the same game everybody does, they can only have 11 players in the field same time. Anyway, Real will prolly score 90 but concend 60 with all that pressure on the attacking end. Ronaldo will prolly trip on his teeth and fall to the post breaking his knee again.
ronaldo-raul-zidane tridente sounds crazy, real have attacking options from left right and center.
but their defence is dodgy, and i can see goals leaking in like with ManUtd last season

FC Barca11

09-03-2002, 11:25 PM

I've read reports that Jardel has signed a Pre-Contract with Barcelona. Doesn't that mean we'll have too many non E-U players???? Well is Jardel does come in, I think Geovanni would probably be the first to go.

Robledo

09-03-2002, 11:39 PM

According to Planetfootball.com, Betis and Sporting are in talks over his transfer. He's threatened to go on strike if the clubs Sporting don't agree a fee. After the Ronaldo saga , What is it with South Americans?!

Btw, he's on a Portuguese passport

BLAUGRANA

09-04-2002, 06:34 AM

Originally posted by Robledo
After the Ronaldo saga , What is it with South Americans?!

Btw, he's on a Portuguese passport

No kidding. Then there's the whole Kily saga raging over at Valencia. It's funny how trouble seems to follow so many South Americans around in Europe. Not of all of them though. J Zanetti has been a model professional.

I'm not thrilled about the Jardel news. It still sounds like more of a rumour than anything. I guess if the price were cheap enough. Also, the Portuguese passport makes matters easier.

FC Barca11

09-04-2002, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by Robledo
According to Planetfootball.com, Betis and Sporting are in talks over his transfer. He's threatened to go on strike if the clubs Sporting don't agree a fee. After the Ronaldo saga , What is it with South Americans?!

Btw, he's on a Portuguese passport

Heheh ;) yea i realize that now, after i read the planetfootball article. Soccerage is crap. When they report things, they do it haphazardly, always leaving out key details like "Real Betis and Sporting are tryin to work out a deal" They just said Jardel signed a pre contract....

nismo

09-05-2002, 06:51 AM

Originally posted by FC Barca11

Heheh ;) yea i realize that now, after i read the planetfootball article. Soccerage is crap. When they report things, they do it haphazardly, always leaving out key details like "Real Betis and Sporting are tryin to work out a deal" They just said Jardel signed a pre contract....
hehehe
soccerage is the national enquirer of the football world
they always have the need to make up stories to suit them, or leave out key parts like u said

Bier

09-05-2002, 11:37 AM

If Jardel enters the Primera with Betis we'll see what we've given away :(

nismo

09-06-2002, 05:03 AM

Hasselbaink - gone
Morientes - gone
Jardel - gone

so who's next on the barca hit list??
if there's someone it'll have to wait in Jan.

BLAUGRANA

09-06-2002, 06:19 AM

Jardel has left Portugal abandoning his club for Brazil. I'm sooooo
glad we didn't go after him. This is the sort of thing I hate. We don't need any nutjob's at Barca.

BLAUGRANA

09-06-2002, 06:21 AM

Well, i've read at two different sites that we supposedly have a pre-contractual agreement with the player. So, should we agree a deal with River, then he'd be ours. It sounds kinda illegal, but I think he'd be a great addition to the club and could play out on the left allowing Riquelme to move to the center. Here's to hoping.

Olesen10

09-06-2002, 06:45 PM

We'll I don't think we need an extra attacker. Saviola and Kluivert is a great team, and with Riquelme and Mendieta we have a really attack!

Bier

09-07-2002, 12:00 AM

When VG entered Barça's coaching zone the second time this summer I was sure he would bring Jan Venegoor of Hesselink in. He's one of the VG-boys just like Zenden or Cocu for example, since VG brought him to the national team. We'll see what happens this winter. I can imagine VG wants another striker.
But still I hope our catalan boy Dani improves as second strike power behind Kluivert.

VivaBarcaInter

09-07-2002, 03:39 AM

Even if Dani exceedes expectations, we still only have 3 actual strikers. That can't be a good thing. And while the Catalan youths produce some great players, unlike the rest of Spain they never seem to be forwards. So if Kluivert gets injured, where is the forward play going to come from?

FC Barca11

09-07-2002, 03:51 AM

Well if things go as planned, it'd probably be Jardel. Afterall, with the Copa Del Rey, the CL and La liga games, we'll need depth in our strikers.

VivaBarcaInter

09-07-2002, 03:53 AM

Hopefully. Even half a season with Jardel could win us at least the league. The man could arguably be the most natural goal scorer on Earth. Whatever problems there are, they must be sorted so we can get this guy. Plus, I'm assuming the Barcelona based fans would want a signing to counter Real signing Judas 2.

BLAUGRANA

09-07-2002, 06:09 AM

Originally posted by VivaBarcaInter
Even if Dani exceedes expectations, we still only have 3 actual strikers. That can't be a good thing. And while the Catalan youths produce some great players, unlike the rest of Spain they never seem to be forwards. So if Kluivert gets injured, where is the forward play going to come from?

I agree we need another striker. I still don't want Jardel. I don't like what's been going on with him now or for that matter in the past. He's had problems at every club he's played for!

Vennegoor of Hesselink is one that I like. However, while he's done very well for himself in Holland, I'm not so sure he'd excel at Barca. I've not seen play much though. I do like him from what i've seen.

We'll need a striker though. We'll have to see what happens. If BARCAPEOPLE is a huge success and Deportivo are faltering at the break, maybe we can land Tristan. I still would love to see him at Barca.

Bier

09-07-2002, 09:07 AM

If Kluivert and Dani get injured or booked so that they're not available at the same time, VG still has the possibility to play Luis Enrique or Saviola upfront with Riquelme and and one of those mentioned for upfront behind. Overmars is an option as well. In VG's system a player needs to be versatile. ;)
Still I wouldn't deny a world class striker like Jardel but he mustn't be too expensive.

Olesen10

09-07-2002, 11:48 AM

I think we have a great team. One of the best in several years IMO! Why change that with buying a diva like Jardel? Like Bier said, we could use Enrique in the front also. The reason VG tried him in that position is probably that he won't go for an extra attacker, which i think is good! Let's save some money...:)

Azerkid

09-07-2002, 02:08 PM

There are a few other players avalaible for next year that LVG could bring in like Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Djebril Cisse, Ilhan Mansiz, Rafael Van Der Vaart, and Mido ;)

We have plenty of choices for the striker position but again its all about the green :D

nismo

09-09-2002, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by Azerkid
There are a few other players avalaible for next year that LVG could bring in like Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Djebril Cisse, Ilhan Mansiz, Rafael Van Der Vaart, and Mido ;)

We have plenty of choices for the striker position but again its all about the green :D

I have a suggestion in a promising striker called Mantorras of benfica (maybe you might know him bier)
he's touted as the african and pele with close links to real
the best way to get back at real following the Figo-scandal would be to snatch him from under their noses, but first we must see if Mantorras is the real McCoy, or just an over-hyped player

Robledo

09-09-2002, 05:26 PM

I've heard Mantorras is the next big thing out of Portugal. He had a great season with Alverca before joining Benfica, but he hasn't been as prolific I believe.

With him being Angolan, wont he be jetting off to Africa every other week playing qualifers at ridiculous times?!?! Thats something Barca could do without

Of that list Azerkid put forward, I'd go for Cisse or Mido. Ibrahimovic is a disruptive influence, and isn't Van Der Vaart more of a left midfielder?

Bier

09-09-2002, 08:55 PM

Sure I know Pedro Manuel Torres (Mantorras) ;) :star:
He's indeed one of the most talented players I've ever seen and he'll make his way to european fame. He's an absolute inspiration for my personal play since I love to play skillful and with many tricks and Mantorras has them all. But he is not effective enough in front of the goal and thus no goalgetter yet. Not that he hasn't got the skills to become one, if not him I couldn't name another who has, but at the moment he is an excellent support striker. Therefor he needs a goalgetter alongside him ... Nuno Gomes at Benfica is the perfect solution seemingly, if our coach Jesualdo wouldn't only play with 1 striker who happens to be Nuno Gomes.
Still Mantorras is not fully developped and not ready for a team in a big league and thus I beg the big ones to leave their hands of him at least for the next two years. Real Madrid is said to be after him, if that move happened it could destroy his carreer ... just remember what happened to our Megatalent Edgar, he's hardly getting playing time at Malaga now. In addition I ask Jesualdo to play with two strikers ... I mean SLB have: Nuno Gomes, Mantorras, Sokota, Feher and Anderson (not the one who once was at Barça ;) ) and play with only one striker??? What's wrong? Our system or our transfer market-behavior?

The next great aspect of Mantorras is his character. He grew up in the streets of Angola, his parents died when he was still a child and he had to take care for his brother. Now that he made it to sportive and thus as well some financial success he did not forget where he came from. In the tender age of 19 he intends to built a football school and spends amounts of his wages for the kids in Angola who have the same destiny as he has. Therefor I will allways be a supporter of Pedro Mantorras no matter if his choice of clubs will be. He's one of those players to be proud of.

No doubt, in the end, that the only club I'd love to see him alongside Benfica is FC Barcelona. But hey, he's compared to the legendary Eusebio thus he must stay for the next 15 years at least. ;)

BLAUGRANA

09-10-2002, 02:53 AM

Originally posted by Robledo
I've heard Mantorras is the next big thing out of Portugal. He had a great season with Alverca before joining Benfica, but he hasn't been as prolific I believe.

With him being Angolan, wont he be jetting off to Africa every other week playing qualifers at ridiculous times?!?! Thats something Barca could do without

Of that list Azerkid put forward, I'd go for Cisse or Mido. Ibrahimovic is a disruptive influence, and isn't Van Der Vaart more of a left midfielder?

Van der Vaart is a left sided mid/winger. However, with all the goals he scores you'd think he was a forward. I still would love to see him at Barca though. He's part Spanish too.

nismo

09-10-2002, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by AZULGRANA

Van der Vaart is a left sided mid/winger. However, with all the goals he scores you'd think he was a forward. I still would love to see him at Barca though. He's part Spanish too.
maybe as a replacement for overmars perhaps.
He could certainly linkup with Kluivert for serious damage :thumbsup:

nismo

09-10-2002, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by Bier

No doubt, in the end, that the only club I'd love to see him alongside Benfica is FC Barcelona. But hey, he's compared to the legendary Eusebio thus he must stay for the next 15 years at least. ;)
Whatever the outcome, Mantorres sounds promising and an intelligent player and person. I hope he doesn't turn out like Ronaldo.

Robledo

09-10-2002, 09:13 AM

Serra Ferrer said he bid for the like of Chivu,Beckham,Giggs and Thierry Henry. Unfortunately none of those deals was pulled off, but imagine one of those players in the Barca lineup.

http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=108149&cpid=23&title=Barca+bids+for+Beckham+and+Giggs+revealed

Olesen10

09-10-2002, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by nismo

maybe as a replacement for overmars perhaps.
He could certainly linkup with Kluivert for serious damage :thumbsup:

If he scores as many goals as you say Zul, he would make a perfect left midfielder! Though I don't like the idea of Overmars being replaced 'cause he was one of the best at the CL last year...

BLAUGRANA

09-11-2002, 02:06 AM

Originally posted by Robledo
Serra Ferrer said he bid for the like of Chivu,Beckham,Giggs and Thierry Henry. Unfortunately none of those deals was pulled off, but imagine one of those players in the Barca lineup.

http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=108149&cpid=23&title=Barca+bids+for+Beckham+and+Giggs+revealed

With all the money that was spent when he was around has contributed to Barca's 120 million pound debt! :angry: I would love to have Beckham at Barca, but that'll never happen. Chivu too, and that's more likely.

nismo

09-11-2002, 03:49 AM

Originally posted by AZULGRANA

With all the money that was spent when he was around has contributed to Barca's 120 million pound debt! :angry: I would love to have Beckham at Barca, but that'll never happen. Chivu too, and that's more likely.
Barca would've been better off if Ferrer actually used the 120 mill quid to at least lure one of his attempted target.
I reckon Giggs would've been more likely than becks or henry if barca tried to get him instead of overmars in 2000. But the question is would giggs wanted to leave.

Juanele

09-11-2002, 04:12 AM

Originally posted by nismo

Barca would've been better off if Ferrer actually used the 120 mill quid to at least lure one of his attempted target.
I reckon Giggs would've been more likely than becks or henry if barca tried to get him instead of overmars in 2000. But the question is would giggs wanted to leave.

All Ferrer was able to do was provide input. He didn't actually purchase anybody. A common misconception is that people think that coaches (at least in Spain) make the purchases for transfers. Totally untrue, unless the coach is also the sporting director and president of the club. Do you think Del Bosque really wanted Ronaldo for Real Madrid? No. That deal was Perez all the way. Well the same thing applies with Gaspart and Barça's trasnfers. Van Gaal only got one guy he wanted, Mendieta. Riquelme is at Barça soley because of Gaspart.

Olesen10

09-11-2002, 10:52 AM

I agree Perez only bought Ronaldo for the publicity, RM really didn't needed him...
But I can't say I agree with you Juanele, that Riquelme only was a publicity deal. He has already scored some goals and IMO he's gonna be very important this season!
But it also seems that Mendieta is gonna be important. Like Zul said, LVG had a plan of bringing him in!

nismo

09-12-2002, 05:06 AM

Originally posted by Juanele

All Ferrer was able to do was provide input. He didn't actually purchase anybody. A common misconception is that people think that coaches (at least in Spain) make the purchases for transfers. Totally untrue, unless the coach is also the sporting director and president of the club. Do you think Del Bosque really wanted Ronaldo for Real Madrid? No. That deal was Perez all the way. Well the same thing applies with Gaspart and Barça's trasnfers. Van Gaal only got one guy he wanted, Mendieta. Riquelme is at Barça soley because of Gaspart.
ahh k
i always thought purchases were made in collaboration of coach and president. How is that supposed to work though, how would the president know who's best for the team when he doesn't have a day to day relationship with them on field
i also agree that ronaldo was bought purely for maketing purposes by perez. But Sometimes i think presidents act more like fans than a director :D

BLAUGRANA

09-12-2002, 05:45 AM

Originally posted by Juanele

All Ferrer was able to do was provide input. He didn't actually purchase anybody. A common misconception is that people think that coaches (at least in Spain) make the purchases for transfers. Totally untrue, unless the coach is also the sporting director and president of the club. Do you think Del Bosque really wanted Ronaldo for Real Madrid? No. That deal was Perez all the way. Well the same thing applies with Gaspart and Barça's trasnfers. Van Gaal only got one guy he wanted, Mendieta. Riquelme is at Barça soley because of Gaspart.

Yeah, that's right. I think it's a half and half situation. Half the players are brought in by the manager, the other half by the club president. I think the last time De La Pena came in is a good example. That was JG pandering to the fans. What's your take on Enke Juanele? My guess is that he was another LVG transfer. However, the way LVG's been relying on Valdes, maybe not. If I was a manager, no way I'd be letting the president bring in whoever. I'd have allowed Riquelme though, especially at the price we paid. :D

BLAUGRANA

09-12-2002, 05:46 AM

Originally posted by nismo

But Sometimes i think presidents act more like fans than a director :D

Or monkeys instead of directors.

Strike

09-13-2002, 02:29 PM

Have someone of you read that over jardel at soccerage?
It seems like sporting has splashed the contract with jardel
and he's now free. I wouldn 't buy him, but if he comes without
paying.....

Olesen10

09-13-2002, 02:58 PM

If we can get Jardel for free we should go for it. But don't buy him!

Bier

09-14-2002, 02:13 AM

Well, I read today that Jardel told Sporting he's not going to play for them anymore since he's ill. Now Sporting intend to loan hime to any brazilian club until the transfer market opens it's doors again in winter and then immediately to sell him to some big european club.
Well, if you ask me Jardel wants to play for Benfica ;) :D

FC Barca11

09-14-2002, 03:47 AM

haha, Jardel for free??? That actually wouldn't be a bad idea. But we'd have to make sure he's mentally stable before we do make a move.

Strike

09-14-2002, 08:52 AM

If I were the board of barca, I would sell Bonano and get Alex
Manninger on free. He is young skilled and had shown at arsenal
that he's better than SEAMAN, and he is for FREE. I think
if Frans hoek trains him, he will become a Supergoalie.

Robledo

09-14-2002, 12:15 PM

Can you see many clubs buying Bonano? I don't think he did badly last season anyway. Victor Valdes is looking quite good in goal.

Azerkid

09-14-2002, 03:32 PM

Florent Sinama-Pongolle another very talented striker and is very young and he's been linked to many teams

Robledo

09-14-2002, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by Azerkid
Florent Sinama-Pongolle another very talented striker and is very young and he's been linked to many teams

he signed for Liverpool along with Anthony Le Tellec last season. They're on loan to Le Havre

Azerkid

09-14-2002, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by Robledo

he signed for Liverpool along with Anthony Le Tellec last season. They're on loan to Le Havre

too bad, but i dont get how Liverfool have Owen, Heskey, Diouf, and still are looking for a striker :(

FC Barca11

09-15-2002, 02:12 PM

whatever happened to Robbie Fowler?

Robledo

09-15-2002, 03:18 PM

"God" as the Liverpool supporters called him is at Leeds United. He's injured at the moment

Olesen10

09-19-2002, 05:14 PM

I've read a rumor that Ronaldo rather wanted a move to Barca, but Van Gaal didn't want him. It seems that everything had been arranged between Gaspart and Ronaldo, but Van refused to have him.

It think Van Gaal has a problem with the crazy Brazilians...:D

hollowi

09-19-2002, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by Olesen10
I've read a rumor that Ronaldo rather wanted a move to Barca, but Van Gaal didn't want him. It seems that everything had been arranged between Gaspart and Ronaldo, but Van refused to have him.

It think Van Gaal has a problem with the crazy Brazilians...:D

Well I can't blame him. Ronaldo has already left the club once and he would've had many years to do so again! I read the thing too but I think that the possible signing of Tristan or Morientes is more valuable since Ronaldo costs like double these guys prices. LVG should anyway put his green on Spanish and Catalan players.

Olesen10

09-19-2002, 08:12 PM

Well yeah, it seems Brazilians are troublemakers wherever they go. (Rivaldo, Ronaldo, Jardel)
It would be good to see some more local guys after ten years with outlandish domination...

BLAUGRANA

09-20-2002, 03:52 AM

Here' s my take on the RUMOURED Salas-Puyol swap.

Some journalist was bored and took two scenarios and tried to combine them into one. First, there's the Puyol scenario. The club and he have yet to come to an agreement on a contract extension and this has alerted all of the top clubs in Europe to him. A whole slew of clubs have been linked with him for some time now, Juventus more than once. Next, you have the striker situation at Barca. It's no secret that LVG wants to bring in another striker, and a bigger name at that. Salas is that sort of player. Also, he plays for Juve who reportedly want Puyol. Also, he's competing with Trez, Del Piero and now Di Vaio for playing time at Juve, not to mention Zalayeta. He's probably on a big wage and therefore would be the perfect player to link with Barca for Puyol. I HIGHLY doubt that Barca would go for this. I only think they would if they absolutely could not come to an agreement with Puyol.

BLAUGRANA

09-20-2002, 04:21 AM

Guys, guys. Cmon here. Don't you see what's going on? Here's my take on the whole situation. LVG said Barca was offered Ronaldo (which they probably were). However, I HIGHLY doubt that Ronaldo wanted to come to Barca. While he spent the entire summer saying he wanted a return to La Liga, he clearly identified Real Madrid as his chosen destination. Also, his stupid lawyer is only making these comments for Ronaldo because the player was stung by LVG's criticism of the way he treated Inter coupled with the fact that the coach didn't want him anywhere near Barca. This is Ronaldo's response and way of getting back at LVG. Finally, his lawyer is just making Ronaldo look like a bigger ASS than he already has shown himself to be. He's putting Ronaldo in a very bad place with his new club, his new teammates and more importantly with the Real Madrid fans. What is this guy thinking?!?! He's obviously NOT!!!

nismo

09-20-2002, 07:14 AM

apparently he's gonna do an offensive goalscoring celebration to LVG when real and barca meet in november

i reckon he's gonna moon LVG

BLAUGRANA

09-20-2002, 07:30 AM

Originally posted by nismo

i reckon he's gonna moon LVG

Better than that hair or seeing him smile! :evil:

Olesen10

09-20-2002, 09:55 AM

Sounds really like a roumor to me...

hollowi

09-21-2002, 08:53 AM

Juventus hope to beat Manchester United and Roma for Barcelona fullback Carles Puyol.
The Spanish international is a major target for all three clubs, but Juve believe they hold a trump card in Chilean striker Marcelo Salas.

Barca are keen to bring the former Lazio ace to Spain and could offer Puyol in part-exchange.

The right-sided defender is also a target for United boss Sir Alex Ferguson and has admitted he'd like to play in England.

http://www.tribalfootball.com/september/engnews1210902.html

NEVER! Is van Gaal trying to play 2-5-3 or what!? If he sells the best defender we have, he's crazy. No-one would be crazy enough to sell Puyol, at least not van Gaal, not now. We don't have even enough defenders so why the hell would he sell one. Like Christanval is ok to sell, because we have a bunch of central backs but never a wing back! We need to get one, not to loose the last one!

I hope van Gaal keeps Puyol in the team, he is probably the best Spanish right back now, who would or maybe even could replace him. To van Gaal: Buy defenders, don't sell (except maybe the centrals).

BLAUGRANA

09-22-2002, 02:33 AM

Originally posted by hollowi

http://www.tribalfootball.com/september/engnews1210902.html

NEVER! Is van Gaal trying to play 2-5-3 or what!? If he sells the best defender we have, he's crazy. No-one would be crazy enough to sell Puyol, at least not van Gaal, not now. We don't have even enough defenders so why the hell would he sell one. Like Christanval is ok to sell, because we have a bunch of central backs but never a wing back! We need to get one, not to loose the last one!

I hope van Gaal keeps Puyol in the team, he is probably the best Spanish right back now, who would or maybe even could replace him. To van Gaal: Buy defenders, don't sell (except maybe the centrals).

Like my previous post said, I think it's just the journalists working overtime. Anyone know when Puyol's contract is up anyway? Barca could cash in on him eventually if they don't agree to a deal, but the player has quashed speculation of him playing elsewhere thus far and that's a good sign. Also, it's not LVG who negotiates contracts with players, so it'd hardly be his fault if anything crazy happens.

Olesen10

10-01-2002, 04:47 PM

It seems like we might be going for Salas. He's to old IMO.
See planetfootball.com:
http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=112477&cpid=23&title=Salas+green+light&clid=178

BLAUGRANA

10-02-2002, 12:50 AM

Originally posted by Olesen10
It seems like we might be going for Salas. He's to old IMO.
See planetfootball.com:
http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=112477&cpid=23&title=Salas+green+light&clid=178

Yeah, read that. He's actually 27 and not 29. We could get him on loan which may be the better option. See how he does, then take him if he plays well for us.

relejado

10-02-2002, 08:29 AM

I don't think we need salas. as long as lucho, kluivert and saviola score goals, we don't need an extra man on the salarylist.

Strike

10-02-2002, 10:13 AM

relejado you re right with that, but we'll playing champions league
and la liga that costs enorm power, and what do we if kluivert or saviola get injuried.
first: dani is injuried.
second: dani is not kluivert and I think salas are even better than dani. But if Louis go for an Striker i would go for: Tristan, Maakay,
or someone same. I think to sign one striker is ok, not seven as real madrid but still one.

My wishes: Alessandro, Van der Vaart, Chivu....

nismo

10-02-2002, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by AZULGRANA

Yeah, read that. He's actually 27 and not 29. We could get him on loan which may be the better option. See how he does, then take him if he plays well for us.
especially with the cash shortage it would be logic to get him on loan
maybe get a defender on loan as well, i'm thinking someone versatile like West, but he's a bogey, a bit loopy in the head, so maybe someone else, any suggestions?

relejado

10-02-2002, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by Strike
relejado you re right with that, but we'll playing champions league
and la liga that costs enorm power, and what do we if kluivert or saviola get injuried.
first: dani is injuried.
second: dani is not kluivert and I think salas are even better than dani. But if Louis go for an Striker i would go for: Tristan, Maakay,
or someone same. I think to sign one striker is ok, not seven as real madrid but still one.

My wishes: Alessandro, Van der Vaart, Chivu....

yes I agree, we are a little bit short of strikers for both competitions (laliga and CL) but I think, the reason for salas's desire to leave juve is because he don't have a first team place guaranteed (with di vaio as first partner for trezeguet). kluivert is undoubtly nr. 1 for LVG as long he is not injured. so salas woudn't play regularly at barca either and his motivation would sink at barca too.

don't forget overmars guys, as soon he's fit again i hope he gets another chance under LVG, he's not at the end of his carrer though. plus LVG is a big admirer of geovanni, he can bring some striking power to the barca offens.

why don't we try to get portillo. with morientes,raul and ronaldo
real has enough worldclass strikers and it would be hard for him to compete with them. his chance for firstteam football would be higher with barca.

nismo

10-02-2002, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by relejado

yes I agree, we are a little bit short of strikers for both competitions (laliga and CL) but I think, the reason for salas's desire to leave juve is because he don't have a first team place guaranteed (with di vaio as first partner for trezeguet). kluivert is undoubtly nr. 1 for LVG as long he is not injured. so salas woudn't play regularly at barca either and his motivation would sink at barca too.

don't forget overmars guys, as soon he's fit again i hope he gets another chance under LVG, he's not at the end of his carrer though. plus LVG is a big admirer of geovanni, he can bring some striking power to the barca offens.

why don't we try to get portillo. with morientes,raul and ronaldo
real has enough worldclass strikers and it would be hard for him to compete with them. his chance for firstteam football would be higher with barca.
Yes, but woult Perez depart with him
he just signed a long term contract a while ago and i don't know if he'll be willing to move across spain, evem if he could get more first team football

BLAUGRANA

10-02-2002, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by relejado
I don't think we need salas. as long as lucho, kluivert and saviola score goals, we don't need an extra man on the salarylist.

I definately think we need someone eventually. We are a bit short in the depth department in terms of out and out strikers.

Originally posted by Strike
relejado you re right with that, but we'll playing champions league
and la liga that costs enorm power, and what do we if kluivert or saviola get injuried.
first: dani is injuried.
second: dani is not kluivert and I think salas are even better than dani. But if Louis go for an Striker i would go for: Tristan, Maakay,
or someone same. I think to sign one striker is ok, not seven as real madrid but still one.

My wishes: Alessandro, Van der Vaart, Chivu....

Hey Strike. How's it going? Long time no see.

About D' Alessandro, he's rumoured to be a target of ours again. His fee is pretty high as it's rumoured to be 25 million euros, but I think that may be a bit exaggerated. I'm sure River Plate would be willing to part with him for less as they probably need the cash bad. Also, LVG is supposedly wanting the player himself, not just Gaspart or the club. That's good news.

Originally posted by relejado

yes I agree, we are a little bit short of strikers for both competitions (laliga and CL) but I think, the reason for salas's desire to leave juve is because he don't have a first team place guaranteed (with di vaio as first partner for trezeguet). kluivert is undoubtly nr. 1 for LVG as long he is not injured. so salas woudn't play regularly at barca either and his motivation would sink at barca too.

don't forget overmars guys, as soon he's fit again i hope he gets another chance under LVG, he's not at the end of his carrer though. plus LVG is a big admirer of geovanni, he can bring some striking power to the barca offens.

why don't we try to get portillo. with morientes,raul and ronaldo
real has enough worldclass strikers and it would be hard for him to compete with them. his chance for firstteam football would be higher with barca.

I agree with your take on the Salas situation. I don't think he'd be a regular and probably wouldn't be much happier with us. He'd get more playing time, but I don't know if it'd be enough. LVG is very direct though and so long as Salas knew that coming in, maybe it wouldn't be too bad in terms of a loan deal. Otherwise who knows, maybe LVG prefers Salas to Kluivert or Saviola. I sure as hell hope not!!!

Overmars should definately get a chance when he comes back. I think LVG will use him right away to give us more width on the left. However, he still won't solve our striker shortage.

Portillo would be nice, but I doubt we'd be able to prize him away from Real. Morientes would be the likeliest option. I dont' think either of them want to leave Real at the moment though and it may take them riding some pine for a while before either changes their mind.

Olesen10

10-02-2002, 07:53 PM

The latest games Enrique has played some sort of striker, and it seems like he's getting used to that positon. So with Lucho, Kluivert, Saviola and Dani (when off injuries), I think we have a strong attack. We might could use one more, but we shouldn't go spend much money on a star, when we already have a good attack. If we should have another striker, we should go for a youngster IMO!
And first of all we should concentrate about the defense.

Robledo

10-02-2002, 07:58 PM

If El Matador does come, then Geovanni or Rochemback will have to be sold on or loaned. The 4 non EU player rule again comes into play

BLAUGRANA

10-03-2002, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by Robledo
If El Matador does come, then Geovanni or Rochemback will have to be sold on or loaned. The 4 non EU player rule again comes into play

I doubt he's coming anyway.

nismo

10-03-2002, 05:31 AM

Anyone knows if LVG plans to be active either selling or buying in the January transfer window??
does he have any certainties at the moment

BLAUGRANA

10-03-2002, 06:31 AM

Originally posted by nismo
Anyone knows if LVG plans to be active either selling or buying in the January transfer window??
does he have any certainties at the moment

D' Alessandro is a rumour. I read that the club and LVG are interested in him.

There is also a non-Barca related rumour out there that I would like to see become related. Lazio have reportedly not paid there players in months. Jaap Stam is supposedly none to pleased with this and wants to become a "free agent" (Bosman for you non-Yanks). He's supposedly hired a lawyer to try and free him up by the winter transfer window. Now, if this whole thing is actually true (which I doubt it is, though not entirely unbelievable), I think Barca should get him. Although he's getting older, he's doing quite well in the Serie A with Lazio. Barca need another CB and on a free transfer I wouldn't turn him down.

relejado

10-03-2002, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by AZULGRANA

There is also a non-Barca related rumour out there that I would like to see become related. Lazio have reportedly not paid there players in months. Jaap Stam is supposedly none to pleased with this and wants to become a "free agent" (Bosman for you non-Yanks). He's supposedly hired a lawyer to try and free him up by the winter transfer window. Now, if this whole thing is actually true (which I doubt it is, though not entirely unbelievable), I think Barca should get him. Although he's getting older, he's doing quite well in the Serie A with Lazio. Barca need another CB and on a free transfer I wouldn't turn him down.

i'm a little bit sceptical about getting stam. we already have andersson, de boer and cristanval as CB's so I'd rather see a left back comming. plus Jaap Stam is like a Tank in the defense, his body is suited to the premierleague and the Serie A but not for the fast-playing spanish league, correct me if i'm wrong, but with his bullish style of play he would be to slow for LA LIGA, no ?

soccer fanatic

10-03-2002, 11:26 AM

I don`t think he is the best option, but knowing the financial situation he is definetly worth considering. I don`t know if Barca is prepared to pay his salary and if Stam is interested in playimng in Spain. I think for Barca he will be prepared to make an exception.He is very good and will contribute something to the current Barca defence. De Boer is slow to, he is doing quite well. And De Boer and Stam will get some training together for the NT. Everybody wins!

BLAUGRANA

10-03-2002, 04:21 PM

The whole point was that if he was on a free. I'm not suggesting we pay the 16 million pounds Lazio did (or still haven't actually). The condition was being on a free transfer. I think he'd be fine in La Liga. I think the EPL is faster than La Liga anyway. Nadal is still a decent defender in La Liga as is Hierro and they aren't track stars by any means. Besides, I don't think Stam is too slow. Also, he is playing very well for Lazio and has since his transfer from United, where he played well too. In fact, it was only about a year ago that Lazio were willing to spend 16 million pounds on him. I think if he became available on a free due to the situation I mentioned above, it'd be foolish not to try and land him.

VivaBarcaInter

10-03-2002, 09:24 PM

Stam is actually quite pacey. He always seemed fast playing for Man U, I don't remember too many people burning him for pace. Plus, having experience , height, and sheer mass would make him a good defender for us. Can't be any worse than some of the "defenders" we've had recently.

10-03-2002, 11:55 PM

No.........................though he comes with a reputation as being a goal scorer ,"el matador',he is someone who never truly lived up to his billing since he outshone Micheal Owen in England and looks like a sad shadow of himself since ................at lazio he tended to dissapear aganist big names (Arsenal,and Real) ,submitting little to the game............at juve he started brightly aganist Celtic in Turin with a burst of speed down the right and a perfect supply to Trezuguet ,but sadly that was the only input he really did make as injury ravegaded him since.Though Barca needs goals I don't think he is the answer as he and Saviola play almost alike and have(had) the same kind of bill and whilest Salas never did live up to his billing ,the "Marodonna'esque" Saviola is and thus far in the season seems to finally be comming into his own and looking an all round good buy with his runs from deep,his golden touch and his all round game.Salas would add little to Barca as he and Saviola are simalar in style and for his price tag a defender could be bought.............................
What we need in a striker is someone who will add something extra that Saviola,Kluviert,Luis do not already add................................

PS-Van Gall did a good thing by not buying Ronaldo who still can't play!

ItalianBoy

10-04-2002, 12:34 AM

After you give us Riquelme its a deal.

Azerkid

10-04-2002, 01:29 AM

Originally posted by VivaBarcaInter
Stam is actually quite pacey. He always seemed fast playing for Man U, I don't remember too many people burning him for pace. Plus, having experience , height, and sheer mass would make him a good defender for us. Can't be any worse than some of the "defenders" we've had recently.

I totally agree with you :thumbsup:

nismo

10-04-2002, 04:28 AM

Stam's not that bad despite his age
Bergkamp reckon he's the toughest defender to play against in EPL.
He could form a vintage partnership with de boer reflecting the KNVB defence if he came to barca

nismo

10-04-2002, 04:34 AM

Originally posted by 10
No.........................though he comes with a reputation as being a goal scorer ,"el matador',he is someone who never truly lived up to his billing since he outshone Micheal Owen in England and looks like a sad shadow of himself since ................at lazio he tended to dissapear aganist big names (Arsenal,and Real) ,submitting little to the game............at juve he started brightly aganist Celtic in Turin with a burst of speed down the right and a perfect supply to Trezuguet ,but sadly that was the only input he really did make as injury ravegaded him since.Though Barca needs goals I don't think he is the answer as he and Saviola play almost alike and have(had) the same kind of bill and whilest Salas never did live up to his billing ,the "Marodonna'esque" Saviola is and thus far in the season seems to finally be comming into his own and looking an all round good buy with his runs from deep,his golden touch and his all round game.Salas would add little to Barca as he and Saviola are simalar in style and for his price tag a defender could be bought.............................
What we need in a striker is someone who will add something extra that Saviola,Kluviert,Luis do not already add................................

PS-Van Gall did a good thing by not buying Ronaldo who still can't play!
do we even have enuff money to buy salas?? salas is good, but i don't know if getting him will help the team overall
i'm with you that the money would prolly be better spent acquiring a defender.