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Azerkid
07-01-2002, 07:40 PM
Congrats Lasse you reached your 100th post :D :thumbsup:

BLAUGRANA
07-01-2002, 10:10 PM
Good job Lasse, 100!

Sas would be 8 million pounds, not $. Yeah, he does want to come. He says he only wants to play for us or Real.

Roberto Abrego
07-02-2002, 04:27 AM
Originally posted by Olesen10
It would be stupid to swap Kluivert for Hasselbaink! Kluivert has a lot of succes on the Barca-squad right now, and is scoring a lot of goals. Why give up the leading goalscorer?
Kluivert is better i dont want the swap.

Roberto Abrego
07-02-2002, 04:27 AM
Originally posted by azulgrana


Yeah, but Alaves could be interested too.

Alaves are more interested in our Swedish GK Magnus Hedman.

Roberto Abrego
07-02-2002, 04:29 AM
Originally posted by azulgrana


Yeah, it definately would have to be one or the other. Also, if it were Joaquin it'd have to be a player plus cash deal.



we can send Alfonso or Macedo Nano.

Roberto Abrego
07-02-2002, 04:30 AM
Congrats Lasse.

Roberto Abrego
07-02-2002, 04:34 AM
Hasan Sas' agent Hakan Azman is believed to be meeting Barcelona representatives today to discuss if the Catalan club are interested in signing the Turkish international.

Sas, one of the stars of the World Cup, has been linked with a move to the Spanish giants after Arsenal and Roma lost interest in the player after Galatasaray slapped a 15 million-euros price tag on his head.

The player has also indicated that he would be interested in a move to the Nou Camp.

apparently the price is not 8m is 15me(thats like 12m aprox)


but still I hope we buy him he will be a great addition.

Roberto Abrego
07-02-2002, 04:56 AM
Originally posted by azulgrana
The Spanish press has named a few more targets.

Vicente for left back from Bayer Leverkusen. I don't like this one at all. He's supposedly gonna cost a bit too.

Hasan Sas. It'd depend on the price. He sounded cheap at 8 million pounds, but the price i've read has gone up a bit.

Alpay from Aston Villa. At only 6 million pounds I think he'd be a real bargain. I still would rather we went for a bigger name defensive signing, but Alpay is a good player at only 6 million pounds.


Alpay is better than Vicente.

BLAUGRANA
07-02-2002, 05:06 AM
I meant to type Placente. I'm always thinking of Vicente (Valencia left winger) for Barca though.

Olesen10
07-02-2002, 01:35 PM
Hasan Sas did a really good job at the WC! It would be good to have him, but where should he play? I don't think he want's to come to FCB and sit on the bench. His place is in the attacking midfield, right? If it is, he will have a rough time pushing Rivaldo out!! Maybe we could change the formation to 3-4-3:

-----------------------Bonano/Enke---------------------


-------Puyol------------Hofland?----------De Boer----


---Enrique-----Xavi--------------Mendieta--------Overmars---
---------------/Sas?------------/van Bommel?---/Joaquin?--


-------Rivaldo----------Saviola------------Kluivert----


This formation is based on who we have talked about and who is realistic...:)

I also think an other Turkish player did great at the WC, Ilhan. He had some great moves against Brazil and Korea!

Olesen10
07-02-2002, 04:23 PM
Man, some forums they practually fight. This is supposed to be a discussion site, not a "Fight Club"...:boo:

Looks like Rivaldo has some taxes he needs to pay...
http://www.opta.co.uk/article.asp?id=98475&clid=178&cpid=23&Title=RIVALDO+FACING+TAXING+PROBLEMS

It seems like that the deal with Ronaldo and RM could happen...:depressed
We should really go for him now! If not, how does this sound? Carlos-Figo-Zidane-Raul-Morientes-Ronaldo...:(

If we buy him, listen at this:
Puyol-Enrique-Mendieta-Overmars-Saviola-Rivaldo-Kluivert-Ronaldo...:D

BLAUGRANA
07-02-2002, 04:30 PM
Rivaldo better pay up!

I don't think Ronaldo will be coming back, he's too expensive. I think he wants to move to Real anyway. If he does, F* him!!! He owes Inter big time. Inter have stood by him through all his injury vodoo BS and this is how he repays them!!!!! If he leaves, I hope they make Real pay BIG TIME!!!

What's up with the Fight Club comment? You need me to go bash some heads for you!

Olesen10
07-02-2002, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by azulgrana
Rivaldo better pay up!

I don't think Ronaldo will be coming back, he's too expensive. I think he wants to move to Real anyway. If he does, F* him!!! He owes Inter big time. Inter have stood by him through all his injury vodoo BS and this is how he repays them!!!!! If he leaves, I hope they make Real pay BIG TIME!!!

What's up with the Fight Club comment? You need me to go bash some heads for you!

If you go to the Anger Forum - owen, larsson - You'll experience some people that just posts because they think they are smarter than everyone else.
The same with WC 2002 - Germany Brazil The Grand Final.
Especially Severus. He only want's to make enemies...

Olesen10
07-02-2002, 04:43 PM
I kinda like Ronaldo. All his fast moves and so on...But I see your point with Inter! It'll be tough for me if he moves te Real, I like him, but I love FCB!
BTW, if he moves to Spain, we WILL have the best league in the world!!

BLAUGRANA
07-02-2002, 05:29 PM
I cant' speak for other two, but Severus is cool. I think he likes all the drama. Plus, he's never wrong! :D I tell him that all the time. Really though, he's cool.

BLAUGRANA
07-02-2002, 05:30 PM
I think that La Liga, Serie A, the EPL and the Bundesliga are all pretty much on par in terms of league strength.

Olesen10
07-02-2002, 05:33 PM
He has some strange opinions some times, but I don't have anything against the guy, I just think he likes to discuss !

Olesen10
07-02-2002, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by azulgrana
I think that La Liga, Serie A, the EPL and the Bundesliga are all pretty much on par in terms of league strength.

Yes, but theres no other league who has worldstars on almost every team.

Roberto Abrego
07-02-2002, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by azulgrana
I cant' speak for other two, but Severus is cool. I think he likes all the drama. Plus, he's never wrong! :D I tell him that all the time. Really though, he's cool.


I agree with u Severus knows what he is talking about.

Roberto Abrego
07-02-2002, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by Olesen10
Hasan Sas did a really good job at the WC! It would be good to have him, but where should he play? I don't think he want's to come to FCB and sit on the bench. His place is in the attacking midfield, right? If it is, he will have a rough time pushing Rivaldo out!! Maybe we could change the formation to 3-4-3:

-----------------------Bonano/Enke---------------------


-------Puyol------------Hofland?----------De Boer----


---Enrique-----Xavi--------------Mendieta--------Overmars---
---------------/Sas?------------/van Bommel?---/Joaquin?--


-------Rivaldo----------Saviola------------Kluivert----


This formation is based on who we have talked about and who is realistic...:)

I also think an other Turkish player did great at the WC, Ilhan. He had some great moves against Brazil and Korea!

Besiktas president said Ilhan is not for sale.

Roberto Abrego
07-03-2002, 12:02 AM
Ronaldo is not going to Real Madrid is official.

Azerkid
07-03-2002, 01:03 AM
Hey, Azul? I havnt heard much the Denilson transfer are we still interrestd?

Olesen10
07-03-2002, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by Roberto Abrego
Ronaldo is not going to Real Madrid is official.

Is it? Great! If he's not going to Barca, keep him in Italy!!!

BLAUGRANA
07-03-2002, 09:31 AM
Hey Azerkid! Sup, long time no post! Of course Barca are interested. But interested and wealthy are two different things!!! :D

BLAUGRANA
07-03-2002, 07:22 PM
Riquelme could be ours. He'd be about 13 million pounds, which is a good price drop from the 22 million pounds we were rumoured to be willing to pay about 9 months ago. I think he'd be a good signing. He's only 24 too. It could happen in the next 48 hours.

Azerkid
07-03-2002, 09:07 PM
How much is Deni valued at? more than Riquelme?

Azerkid
07-03-2002, 09:10 PM
Those ridiculously rich Man U punks are interested in Kluivert, but i think it's just another silly rumour ;)

BLAUGRANA
07-04-2002, 05:22 AM
Who is Deni? Do you mean Dani (our striker) or Denilson?

BLAUGRANA
07-04-2002, 05:38 AM
Here's a La Liga transfer summary so far. It's from Soccerage.com. Notice one of the players listed in Barca's interests!!! :eek: :D :D :D We all want him and they list him. Can you guess/tell who I'm talking about!?!?! I've not read we were after him anywhere either. I swear, I have this power to make my transfer ideas become rumours and some even become actual transfers. Rio to United is one I was thinking about and now it could happen! Anyway, check this out:

SA Special: La Liga Transfer Market Update
News Archive



Javi Moreno is back in La Liga with Atletico, will Jose Mari follow? (AP)
07/03/2002. Here is a look at all the movers and shakers in La Liga as well as some of the deals that we may well see in the coming weeks.


Alaves:

In: Abelardo (Barcelona), Martín (Toledo), Epitié (Recreativo), Djolonga, Mario.

Out: Kike (Poli Ejido), Witschge (Ajax), Kanu, Coloccini (Atlético), Eggen, Lombardi, Herrera (Fulham), Brandán.

Interested: De Vlieger (Willem II), Benja (Elche), Dida and Ferri (Milan), Cambiasso (Real Madrid), Ameli, Walter Gracia, Tomic (Roma), Juanmi (Zaragoza), Cuéllar (Nástic), Pablo Lago (Las Palmas), Carini (Juventus), Dutruel (Barça).

Athletic de Bilbao:

In: Karanka (Real Madrid), Murillo, Gurpegi, Alaña, Arriaga, Aduriz, César (Racing), Luis Prieto (Eibar), Vélez.

Out: Cuéllar (Elche), Urzaiz, Alkorta, Ríos, Imaz, Sergio Vera.

Interested: Nagore (Atlético), Bolo (Rayo), Edu Alonso (Las Palmas), Rekarte (R. Sociedad), López Vallejo (Villarreal).

Atletico de Madrid:

In: Emerson (Deportivo), Sergi (Barcelona), Pinola (Chacarita Jrs.), Javi Moreno and Coloccini (Milan), Hernández (Rayo), Lardín, Cubillo and Luis (Xerez), Lawal (Córdoba), Njegus (Sevilla), Munteanu (Espanyol).

Out: Jesús (Deportivo), Toni (Elche), Diego Alonso (Valencia), Luque.

Interested: Rui Costa and José Mari (Milan), Esteban (Oviedo), Diego Alonso (Valencia), De Pedro (Real Sociedad), Lussenhoff (Tenerife), Urzaiz (Athletic), Simeone, Mendieta and Piojo (Lazio), Ibagaza and Novo (Mallorca), Kily (Valencia), Dani (Barcelona), José Ignacio and Acuña (Zaragoza), Riquelme (Boca), Víctor (Sevilla), Fernando Sales (Valladolid), Pablo Lago (Las Palmas).

Barcelona:

In: Louis Van Gaal. Enke (Benfica), Arteta (PSG), Luis García (Valladolid), Alfonso (Olympique)

Out: Coco (Inter), Sergi (Atlético), Abelardo (Alavés) y Reina (Villarreal).

Interested: Lucio and Placente (Leverkusen), Juanfran (Celta), Carini (Juventus), Mendieta (Lazio), Shevchenko (Milan), Ramé (Girondins), Riquelme (Boca), Van Bommel (Feyenoord), Hasselbaink (Chelsea), Tristán (Depor), Crespo (Lazio), Verón (Manchester), Kily González (Valencia).

Betis:

In: Víctor Fernández. P. Niño, Crosa, Juan Jesús (Poli Ejido), Meli, Arzu, Fabao and Sebastián Romero (Córdoba), Valerio (Elche), Gálvez (Burgos)

Out: Merino (Recreativo), Bornes (Elche), Ikpeba (B. Dortmund), Valerio (Tenerife)

Interested: Acuña (Zaragoza), Alfonso (Barcelona), Oliseh (Borussia Dortmund), Marcos Assunçao (Roma), Marcos (Valladolid), Tote and Celades (Real Madrid), Sonck (Genk), López Ramos (Córdoba), Diego Alonso (Valencia), Molisevis (Parma).

Celta:

In: Miguel Angel Lotina, Luccin (PSG), Méndez (Vélez), Contreras (Osasuna), McCarthy, Kaviedes, Almunia (Eibar), Mena (Xerez), Sergio Cruz (Poli Ejido), Noguerol (Elche)

Out: Karpin y Maurice.

Interested: Orbaiz (Athletic); Gallardo (Sevilla); José Ignacio (Zaragoza), Fernando and Celades (Real Madrid), Javi Guerrero (Racing), Idiakez (Real Sociedad), Berger (Liverpool).

Deportivo La Coruña:

In: Jesús (Atlético), Manel and Jaime (Tenerife), D. Pirri and Aira (Sporting), Turu (Valladolid), Changui (Poli Ejido), Iván Pérez (Leganés), Fernando (Osasuna), Abreu
Bajas: Emerson (Atlético), Helder.

Interested: Karpin (Celta), Onopko (Oviedo), Tamudo (Espanyol), Deco (Oporto), Zago (Roma), Pablo Amo (Sporting), Ángel (Las Palmas), Peña (Valladolid), Acuña (Zaragoza).

Espanyol:

In: Juande Ramos, Xavi Roca (Villarreal), Maxi (Newell's), Fredson (Paraná)

Out: De Lucas, Mora, Aganzo (Valladolid), Munteanu (Atlético), Palencia (Cruz Azul), Pacheco (Inter)

Interested: Boukar (Yaoundé), Oliveira (Portuguesa), Luque (Atlético), Hedman (Coventry), Manninger (Arsenal), Esteban, Jaime and Boris (Oviedo), Arnau (Málaga), Idiakez (R. Sociedad), Keita (Lorient), Valbuena (Albacete), Mingo (Betis), Sousa (Real Madrid), Dutruel (Barcelona).

Malaga:

In: Iznata (Numancia).

Out: Pato (Córdoba), Zárate, Dorado, Larrainzar, Calandria (Olympique), Genilson

Interested: Cabrejo (Eibar), Diego Alonso (Valencia), Correa (Atlético), Olivera (Sevilla), Tote and Fernando (Real Madrid), Morales (Nacional).

Mallorca:

In: Gregorio Manzano, Lozano (Valladolid), Biagini.

Out: Serrizuela (Independiente), Roa, Engonga and Siviero.

Interested: Jesús (Atlético), David Cortés (Extremadura), Iván Campo y Julio César (Real Madrid).

Osasuna:

In: Javier Aguirre, Iván Pérez (Nástic), Arpón (Poli Ejido), Moha (Elche)

Out: Fernando (Deportivo), Contreras (Celta).

Interested: José Ignacio (Zaragoza), Rubén Reyes and Onopko (Oviedo), Manel (Deportivo) and Mara (Alavés)

Racing de Santander:

In: M. Preciados Bennayoun (Maccabi), Bachar (Hapoel), Vivar Dorado (Rayo), Rubén, Nacho,

Out: César (Athletic), Julio Alvarez (Real Madrid), Hans, Mazzoni.

Interested: Pusineri, Ameli and Romagnoli (San Lorenzo), Munitis (Real Madrid), Maciel (Racing Avellaneda), Cabrejo (Eibar), Esteban (Oviedo), Javi González (Athletic), Cubillo (Atlético), Pablo Lago (Las Palmas), Esteban (Oviedo), Luis Fernández (Betis), Luis Helguera (Udinese).

Rayo Vallecano:

In: Fernando Vázquez Camuñas and Mora (Getafe), Rabadán, Chércoles and Carlos (Rayo B), Michel II (Sporting), Segura and Urbano (Poli Ejido), Mario (Alcalá).

Out: Cota, Lopetegui, Alcázar, I. Iglesias, Mauro, Granov, Roy, Glaucio, Ferrón (Zaragoza), Hernández (Atlético), Vivar Dorado* (Racing), Arteaga

Interested: Corrales and Sousa (Real Madrid B), Pablo Lago and Samways (Las Palmas), Javi González (Athletic), Jaime (Oviedo), Tomic (Oviedo), L. Ramos (Córdoba), Badeer (Maccabi), Pepe Domingo (Salamanca), Jofre (Barça).

Real Madrid:

In: Miñambres, Portillo and Raúl Bravo (Real Madrid B), Cambiasso (River), Tote and Fernando (Valladolid), Julio Alvarez (Racing), Julio César (Benfica).

Out: Baljic (Galatasaray), Rivera, Karanka (Athletic) and Aganzo (Valladolid).

Interested: Vieira (Arsenal), Ronaldo (Inter), Crespo (Lazio), Owen (Liverpool), Lucio (Leverkusen), Nesta (Lazio), Shevchenko (Milán), Chivu (Ajax).

Real Sociedad:

In: Barkero, Guerrero and Aldeondo (Eibar), Asper, Collet, Demetrazde, I. Alvarez

Out: Jankauskas (Porto), Loren (retirado), Idiákez, Collet.

Recreativo de Huelva:

In: Quique Romero (Mallorca B), José Mari and Gallego (Córdoba), Kaiku (Levante), Merino (Betis), Moreno (Almería).

Out: Gallego (Córdoba), Castilla, Diego Camacho (Granada), Riaño (Atlético B), Bermejo (Hospitalet). Gallego, Oscar (retirado), Antoñito (Sevilla), Bornes (Betis), Mariano, David, Caco Morán, Ignacio, Dorado, Epitié (Alavés), Mariano (Cartagonova).

Interested: López Ramos (Córdoba), Moreno and Mena (Xerez), Cubillo (Atlético), Donovan (Bayer Leverkusen), and Aguilar (Murcia).

Sevilla:

In: Redondo (Elche), Marcos Vales (Zaragoza), Caballero (Figueres), Jaime (Conquense), Bakero, Ribera, Antoñito (Recreativo), Otero.

Out: Tabaré (Elche), Olivera, Njegus (Atlético), Taira.

Interested: Pablo (Alavés), Galván (Villarreal), Samways and Tevenet (Las Palmas), Pipa Estévez (San Lorenzo).

Valencia:

In: Xisco (Tenerife), Amarilla, Jonathan and Parri (Numancia), Diego Alonso (Atlético), Dorothée (Rennes).

Out: Ilie, Anglomá (retirado).

Interested: Gabri and Luis García (Barcelona), Reveillere (Rennes), Darío Silva (Málaga), Tamudo (Espanyol), Luque (Mallorca), Jardel (Sporting Lisboa), Ángel (Las Palmas), Casas (Betis).

Valladolid:

In: A. López (Numancia), Oscar Sánchez (Badajoz), Aganzo (Real Madrid), Julio Iglesias and Jon Ander (Tenerife)

Out: Lozano (Mallorca), Tote, Fernando, Cuathemoc, Eusebio (retirado), Turu Flores (Depor), Luis García (Barcelona), Veiga (Levante).

Interested: Rubén (Las Palmas), Sousa (Real Madrid B), Alfredo Castillo (Oriente).

Villarreal:

In: Belletti (Sao Paulo), Rubén Reyes (Oviedo), Reina (Barcelona), Schelotto*, Tasevski* (Elche), Jaime*, Quique Medina* (Salamanca), Javi Venta* (Tenerife).

Out: Xavi Roca (Espanyol), Pizzi, Craioveanu.

Interested: Pablo Amo (Sporting), Kleberson (At. Paranaense), José Ignacio (Zaragoza) , Gilberto (At. Mineiro), Víctor (Barcelona B), Josico, Ángel and Tevenet (Las Palmas).

psh03
07-04-2002, 12:02 PM
Buying Riquelme would be a stroke of genius. I wanted Napoli to sign him though. How much pressure would that be?

Olesen10
07-04-2002, 12:22 PM
I think Azer means Denilson...

BLAUGRANA
07-04-2002, 05:41 PM
That's what I thought. I read 22 million pounds somewhere a while ago, but I'm not sure. Probably would cost somewhere around his buyout clause price, whatever that is.

Azerkid
07-04-2002, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by azulgrana
Who is Deni? Do you mean Dani (our striker) or Denilson?

Deni? of course it Denilson, it's just my new nickname for him ;)

Azerkid
07-04-2002, 05:53 PM
I havent heard much about Veron coming to Barca, or Shevchenko.

Roberto Abrego
07-05-2002, 03:59 AM
Originally posted by psh03
Buying Riquelme would be a stroke of genius. I wanted Napoli to sign him though. How much pressure would that be?


I am sure that he wont go to Europe and play in Series B instead of the top flight

Roberto Abrego
07-05-2002, 03:59 AM
Originally posted by psh03
Buying Riquelme would be a stroke of genius. I wanted Napoli to sign him though. How much pressure would that be?


I am sure that he wont go to Europe and play in Series B instead of the top flight....


and we r getting even closer to a deal with him :)

Roberto Abrego
07-05-2002, 04:04 AM
Originally posted by Azerkid37
I havent heard much about Veron coming to Barca, or Shevchenko.


Sheva is staying at Milan,Galliani said ;)

Azerkid
07-05-2002, 04:10 AM
Originally posted by Roberto Abrego



Sheva is staying at Milan,Galliani said ;)

A typical post from a Milan fan :D

BLAUGRANA
07-05-2002, 04:30 AM
Originally posted by Azerkid37
I havent heard much about Veron coming to Barca, or Shevchenko.

They are both out of Barca's price range. Furthermore, I wouldn't want either of them at Barca, ESPECIALLY VERON!!! He's a mercenary! As far as Scheva goes, I can think of plenty of other forwards I'd rather have, some of whom would be better value for money. For instance, have you guys noticed yet the forward on that long post I left that's been linked with us? We've talked about him many times.

BLAUGRANA
07-05-2002, 05:00 AM
Looks like Riquelme is ours tomorrow! I think this is it. Notice the fee that the article gives. If that's the case, I think he'll be a real bargain!!! I'm not necessarily a big Riquelme fan, but this brings a :D to my face!!! I think he'll be a good signing. Also, I think at the price and comparing the two players, he's a much smarter buy than Kily would have been. Interesting to see if he's played wide left though. I know for Boca he plays just behind the strikers. Anyway, finally another transfer for us. Considering how much time and writing we've put into this thread, we deserve one.

http://www.opta.co.uk/article.asp?id=98732&clid=&cpid=23&Title=Barca+close+to+Riquelme+deal

Olesen10
07-05-2002, 11:05 AM
Well guys, I'm leaving for the sun, beaches and good football!! I'm going to Barcelona today!!!! Don't expect to hear from me for about 3 weeks, 'cause I'm in Spain...:D

Sounds good with Riquelme though!

So long!

BLAUGRANA
07-05-2002, 11:05 PM
If this is true, we are really splashin' the cash now. This from wldcup.com


FC Barcelona: first Riquelme and then Cannavaro
First Published: Jul 05, 2002


FC Barcelona want to follow up the purchase of Juan Riquelme with a coup for Fabio Cannavaro.

The Italian centre back is in the Catalan capital today and is expected to meet Barca president Joan Gaspart.

Barca are to confirm the signing of Boca Juniors play maker Riquelme soon and have now turned their attention to trying to wrest the Italian international defender from Parma AC.

Cannavaro has been the subject of intense interest from Inter, Juventus and Milan in recent weeks but Barca are now rivalling the Milan clubs to sign the Naples-born star.

The signing of Riquelme is expected to be confirmed on Monday. The deal was two years in the making for Barca with the Catalan giants spending £13 million to sign the 25 year old.







.

Azerkid
07-06-2002, 01:20 AM
Originally posted by azulgrana


They are both out of Barca's price range. Furthermore, I wouldn't want either of them at Barca, ESPECIALLY VERON!!! He's a mercenary! As far as Scheva goes, I can think of plenty of other forwards I'd rather have, some of whom would be better value for money. For instance, have you guys noticed yet the forward on that long post I left that's been linked with us? We've talked about him many times.

Is it Tristan? or is it Crespo?

Roberto Abrego
07-06-2002, 01:41 AM
Originally posted by Azerkid37


A typical post from a Milan fan :D


:D


but its true :)

BLAUGRANA
07-06-2002, 03:09 AM
IT'S TRISTAN OF COURSE!!! :D

BLAUGRANA
07-06-2002, 03:19 AM
Alfonso will bo on loan at Real Betis next season with an option for them to the buy the player at the end of said season. Smart move IMO as he wasn't a part of LVG's plans and we now don't have to pay his salary.

Azerkid
07-06-2002, 03:32 AM
Originally posted by azulgrana
IT'S TRISTAN OF COURSE!!! :D

Ahhahahaha I knew it :D

BLAUGRANA
07-06-2002, 03:33 AM
I'm surprised it took you so long!!!

Azerkid
07-06-2002, 03:59 AM
Originally posted by azulgrana
I'm surprised it took you so long!!!

Since i got it then where is my prize? :D

BLAUGRANA
07-06-2002, 04:00 AM
You haven't earned it yet. You need to go and bring him in to Barca, then you'll get your prize!

Azerkid
07-06-2002, 04:02 AM
Sure, let me call his agent and Gaspart ;)

BLAUGRANA
07-07-2002, 03:20 AM
Hasan Sas rumoured to be part of an exchange for Dani plus cash. I'd prefer a straight up exchange for Dani and we keep the $! :D

Azerkid
07-07-2002, 08:19 PM
me 2 :D

BLAUGRANA
07-08-2002, 01:26 AM
This from el Presidente Gaspart:

http://www.fcbarcelona.com/news/feature.sps?id=2048917&languageid=9

Azerkid
07-08-2002, 04:29 AM
Hmm..... Interesting ;), and im glad were always looking for quality players :D

BLAUGRANA
07-09-2002, 03:16 AM
Well, it looks like tomorrow is the big day! Riquelme should be ours for only $13 million. What a bargain!!! :D He could prove to be Rivaldo's long-term replacement.

BLAUGRANA
07-09-2002, 03:37 AM
Hopefully what Mr. Gaspart wants will happen! :D

Note that the article mentions two more departures. Hmmm. I wonder who. My guess would be Overmars and Gerard. We'll have to wait and see.

http://www.onefootball.com/index.phtml?page=fullstory&newsid=117585&0

Azerkid
07-09-2002, 05:53 AM
Riquleme will cost $11.2m and thats f7 million, so we save 2 million. His contract is gonna be 5 years f1.8 million.

BLAUGRANA
07-09-2002, 06:24 AM
Either way, it's better than the price we were willing to pay 9 months ago. That was double the current deal. If we sell Riquelme though, Boca will get 20% of the fee.

Azerkid
07-09-2002, 06:29 AM
yes you're right

BLAUGRANA
07-09-2002, 05:30 PM
http://www.fcbarcelona.com/home/default.sps?LanguageID=9

BLAUGRANA
07-09-2002, 05:35 PM
http://www.fcbarcelona.com/news/feature.sps?id=2048939&languageid=9

BLAUGRANA
07-11-2002, 03:51 AM
A lot of news today. Rivaldo could be on his way out. He says that he will not sign an extension until his current deal expires. I hope he changes his mind and sits down with Barca right now. If not, they may have to sell him. I don't blame them though. They'll lose him for nothing in a year if he doesn't resign. Hopefully the situation can be resolved. If he is sold, then Riquelme can stay due to the foreigner rule.

Speaking of which, why loan out Riquelme? They could loan out Geovanni or Rochemback instead.

Here's what LVG said today. Some transfer news here. Also, notice the formation he says they may use. I think a certain someone mentioned this formation in a previous thread.

http://www.fcbarcelona.com/news/feature.sps?id=2048983&languageid=9

BLAUGRANA
07-11-2002, 03:57 AM
I read a very fishy sounding rumour. 10 million pounds + Reiziger for Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink. It sounds great, but too good to be true I'm afraid. Too bad!

BLAUGRANA
07-11-2002, 05:03 PM
http://www.fcbarcelona.com/news/feature.sps?id=2049031&LanguageID=9

Roberto Abrego
07-11-2002, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by azulgrana
I read a very fishy sounding rumour. 10 million pounds + Reiziger for Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink. It sounds great, but too good to be true I'm afraid. Too bad!


I cant believe this

what will happen to Saviola if he came???

BLAUGRANA
07-11-2002, 11:16 PM
He'd ride the bench. Nah, he'd get his share of playing time. Saviola is one for the future though. Hasselbaink would be great though. He was amazing for Atletico last time he played in La Liga.

BLAUGRANA
07-11-2002, 11:58 PM
He could be on his way in a swap deal involving Rivaldo. You all know I'm not a Crespo fan, but this could happen. Real are interested too though. Hopefully they take Crespo so we don't.

Azerkid
07-12-2002, 02:19 AM
Oh great :rolleyes: Crespo? dont ge me wrong he's a good player but i would prefer JFH.

Roberto Abrego
07-12-2002, 02:22 AM
we cant do that swap Rivaldo is a mor complete player.

Azerkid
07-12-2002, 02:23 AM
Why swap? we could have a better advantage selling him.

Roberto Abrego
07-12-2002, 02:24 AM
Originally posted by azulgrana
He'd ride the bench. Nah, he'd get his share of playing time. Saviola is one for the future though. Hasselbaink would be great though. He was amazing for Atletico last time he played in La Liga.

yes I remember that season he was el "pichichi"

BLAUGRANA
07-12-2002, 02:54 AM
Originally posted by Azerkid37
Why swap? we could have a better advantage selling him.

Azer,
It's like i've been saying all along. If Rivaldo won't sign a contract extension, he needs to be sold/swapped/ pawned or whatever. Barca can't afford to "hope" he'll sign an extension. It would be bad for Barca to hold on to him until next summer when they could lose him for free. I think it's all up to Rivaldo.

Azerkid
07-12-2002, 03:04 AM
I know Rivaldo, if i tell him to stay he will :D

Roberto Abrego
07-12-2002, 03:09 AM
yeah right :rolleyes: :D



I hope he stays!

Azerkid
07-12-2002, 03:19 AM
Roberto, I'm well know in soccer businees around the world.

Roberto Abrego
07-12-2002, 03:22 AM
really :rolleyes:

Azerkid
07-12-2002, 03:25 AM
Are you interested in a contract?

Roberto Abrego
07-12-2002, 03:31 AM
yes!!!!:D

BLAUGRANA
07-12-2002, 06:22 AM
HEY!!!

Watch it guys. I tell LVG if it's cool to sign someone or not. If I don't like em, he can't sign em. Got that!?!?!?!?! :D

Roberto Abrego
07-13-2002, 02:54 AM
Who u think we will get rid of to leave space to Riquelme to play next season.....


i think we should sell Geovanni and u guys???

BLAUGRANA
07-13-2002, 04:51 AM
Perhaps Riquelme will be the one making way. We'll have to see. Saviola should be getting an Italian passport soon, so that will help the problem.

BLAUGRANA
07-13-2002, 05:05 PM
Well, the proposed Rivaldo-Mendieta swap is back in force. This one won't go away. It'll all be down to Rivaldo though. I think I'd take it so long as Barca doesn't have to fork over too much cash. I don't think Rivaldo will sign an extension, so it's better to get something than nothing.

BLAUGRANA
07-14-2002, 12:27 AM
According to a Sky Sports Spanish correspondent, the Rivaldo-Mendieta deal would be a straight swap. Also, he said that Barca have been shopping Rivaldo around for a year and a half. Mendieta would be LVG's wide right player if the deal goes through.

alex_10
07-14-2002, 12:47 AM
geovanni is great player,selling is out of question,about few months saviola will get italian passport(u see that before)and problem is settled
about rivaldo,dont sell him please!!!

Azerkid
07-14-2002, 02:17 AM
Originally posted by azulgrana
HEY!!!

Watch it guys. I tell LVG if it's cool to sign someone or not. If I don't like em, he can't sign em. Got that!?!?!?!?! :D

Gotcha Mr. Gaspart Jr. :D sorry Roberto the boss forgot to take his pills and now is yelling at everybody. :(

Roberto Abrego
07-14-2002, 03:24 AM
Originally posted by azulgrana
According to a Sky Sports Spanish correspondent, the Rivaldo-Mendieta deal would be a straight swap. Also, he said that Barca have been shopping Rivaldo around for a year and a half. Mendieta would be LVG's wide right player if the deal goes through.

this will be a very bad deal!

Azerkid
07-14-2002, 03:25 AM
I have reached 500 posts :D and I did on the board of the greatest team in the world ;) :D

Roberto Abrego
07-14-2002, 03:36 AM
congrats Azerkid!

BLAUGRANA
07-14-2002, 03:49 AM
Congrats Kid!!!

BLAUGRANA
07-14-2002, 03:57 AM
A report in Spain claims that Barcelona are tracking another Argentine starlet. Who is it? Can you guess guys??? Well, I'm gonna tell you. It's Andres D'Allessandro. After being priced out by Valencia of the transfer of Kily Gonzalez (THANK GOD), D'Allessandro is the new target. But wait, there's more good news! D'Allessandro's contract is up in June 2003, which means Barca could get him on a free then. Otherwise, they could probably get him before that at a very cheap price because River won't want to lose him for nothing (kinda like us and Rivaldo) and the Argentine Economy is still doing poorly and the club will probably want the money. ALSO, D'Allessandro has an Italian passport, so none of this non-EU player crap! I'm not a fan of too many Argentine footballers, but this kid like Riquelme and Saviola can be Barca greats. I've not seen him play much, but he sounds like the real deal. This could be a great offseason!

Roberto Abrego
07-14-2002, 04:11 AM
this is a great player with a very bright future I have seen him playing several times,he is great...

Azerkid
07-14-2002, 05:20 AM
If D'Alessandro comes, and Rivaldo goes at that same year in 2003 then he would replace him, if not then which of the starters gonna ride the bench?

Robledo
07-15-2002, 10:31 PM
Gaspart says the Rivaldo/Mendieta story is a load of crap

http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=99676&Title=%47%61%73%70%61%72%74%20%71%75%61%73%68%65%73%20%4D%65%6E%64%69%65%74%61%2F%52%69%76%61%6C%64% 6F%20%73%77%61%70%20%74%61%6C%6B

Roberto Abrego
07-16-2002, 02:22 AM
yes I have already saw that notice...


and i am glad that is just crap beacuse Mendieta is not as good as Rivaldo that is 200% much better than him.

Roberto Abrego
07-16-2002, 02:24 AM
Originally posted by Azerkid37
If D'Alessandro comes, and Rivaldo goes at that same year in 2003 then he would replace him, if not then which of the starters gonna ride the bench?



he will stay sometime at the bench :(

BLAUGRANA
07-16-2002, 02:47 AM
Originally posted by Azerkid37
If D'Alessandro comes, and Rivaldo goes at that same year in 2003 then he would replace him, if not then which of the starters gonna ride the bench?

Can you rephrase this question Azer? I'm not sure what you're asking.

BLAUGRANA
07-16-2002, 02:48 AM
Originally posted by Roberto Abrego
yes I have already saw that notice...


and i am glad that is just crap beacuse Mendieta is not as good as Rivaldo that is 200% much better than him.

Of course we'd all rather have Rivaldo. But wouldn't you rather swap him for Mendieta (who'd stay for at least 4 years after) than lose Rivaldo for nothing after next season??? I sure would.

BLAUGRANA
07-16-2002, 02:51 AM
Riquelme was officially unveiled to the press and hundreds of fans in Barcelona today. There was a large contingent of reporters. LVG said he was pleased to bring in such a talented player, but that he would have to work hard like the rest of the squad. Finally.

BLAUGRANA
07-16-2002, 02:52 AM
The rumour is picking up pace. I read a price of 13 million pounds. If that were to happen, Rivaldo would reportedly surely be sold.

BLAUGRANA
07-16-2002, 02:54 AM
Gaspart said today that Barca's future transfers would be Spanish. One site says that they are still after Portillo. I doubt that Real will sell him, much less to us.

Azerkid
07-16-2002, 03:27 AM
Originally posted by azulgrana


Can you rephrase this question Azer? I'm not sure what you're asking.

what i'm asking is will Alessandro play same position with Barca as Rivaldo does, if yes then he would be his replacement if Riva leaves but if we pick him up now while Riva is playing then who is gonna ride the benchto make room for Alessandro to start guys like Overmars, Luis E., and etc? or will Alessandro ride the bench?

BLAUGRANA
07-16-2002, 04:03 AM
Riquelme would replace Rivaldo, while D'Allessandro would play out on the left. If Rivaldo stays, he should keep his place in the side. Overmars would probably play wide right, otherwise it'd be Enrique. It would also come down to formation, but that's pretty much the way I understand it.

Azerkid
07-16-2002, 04:22 AM
Originally posted by azulgrana
Riquelme would replace Rivaldo, while D'Allessandro would play out on the left. If Rivaldo stays, he should keep his place in the side. Overmars would probably play wide right, otherwise it'd be Enrique. It would also come down to formation, but that's pretty much the way I understand it.

ok, thanks for the info.

Roberto Abrego
07-16-2002, 04:40 AM
He can play as a Forward...

Azerkid
07-16-2002, 05:21 AM
Then where does Saviola go?

BLAUGRANA
07-16-2002, 06:09 AM
Originally posted by Roberto Abrego
He can play as a Forward...

Who?

Jurzinho
07-16-2002, 12:19 PM
Riquelme might not even play next season and could be loaned out to another club because of the number of foreign players Barcelona have.

Azerkid
07-16-2002, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by Jurzinho
Riquelme might not even play next season and could be loaned out to another club because of the number of foreign players Barcelona have.

Sup dude, I see you getting used to WSB, its no different from footballcorner my nick on thier is Neftchi, well anyway Welcome!

Roberto Abrego
07-16-2002, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by azulgrana


Who?



D'alessandro

BLAUGRANA
07-17-2002, 05:13 AM
Originally posted by Roberto Abrego




D'alessandro

He'd play wide left.

Roberto Abrego
07-17-2002, 05:34 AM
yes

BLAUGRANA
07-17-2002, 05:23 PM
LVG says that Mendieta is the final piece of the jigsaw. He feels that Barca should go after even if it's not part of a Rivaldo swap deal.

Olesen10
07-17-2002, 05:28 PM
Hi guys!
I am in Spain! I just saw the Riquelme transfer in TV. Looks good!! In a Spanish newspaper they compared different players who play in Barca today, with earlier legends in the proud shirt. Riquelme with Ronaldo, Saviola with Maradona and Cocu with Cruyff Too bad with Mendieta though...See your later!

Bier
07-17-2002, 10:19 PM
hmmm ... I would compare Riquelme and Saviola the other way round. Saviola is a bigger goalgetter then Riquelme and thus to be compared to Ronaldo IMO. Meanwhile Riquelme is a passing genius and a wonder in skills ... just like Maradona.
Ehrrr ... whatever ... they are both in Barcelona now and will be the key to a glorious future. :star:

About the Rivo swap deal ... the only player I would maybe consider changing Rivo for is Nesta. :)

BLAUGRANA
07-18-2002, 12:27 AM
Originally posted by Bier


About the Rivo swap deal ... the only player I would maybe consider changing Rivo for is Nesta. :)

That's great Bier, but not realistic. Nesta is worth more and Lazio would never do the deal. Furthermore, we can't be too picky if we offload Rivaldo cause his contract is up in less than a year. Mendieta even up for Rivaldo would actually be a deal as I don't think Rivaldo is willing to sign a contract extension and could easily leave on a free in about 10 months. I say Barca give him 30 days to agree a new deal. If not they sell, swap, pawn or do whatever they need to in order to get something for him. It's all about the good of the club. None of us want Rivaldo to leave, but unless he's willing to extend his contract...

BLAUGRANA
07-18-2002, 12:28 AM
Read a crazy rumour that Barca are ready to meet Chelsea's 20 million pound price for JFH. I doubt it, but never say never.

BLAUGRANA
07-18-2002, 12:34 AM
While I think he's headed to Man Utd, it'd be great if he came to Barca. We could offer Christanval and cash. Sell Rivaldo and you'd have a lot of cash to use. It's a dream, but I can dream if I want to.

BLAUGRANA
07-18-2002, 05:32 AM
Rivaldo has refused to meet with Lazio's representatives. Now it looks like we'll lose him for nothing in less than a year unless he agrees to a new deal. I doubt Rivaldo will do this. It's too bad because I was hoping he'd retire at Barca. Hopefully he won't cause any problems for LVG this season.

Bier
07-18-2002, 11:37 AM
I think Rivaldo would renew his contract if Barça just tried ... was there any aproach of Barça yet?

Rivaldo himself appeared on VGs black list since he supposingly wouldn't play left wing. Now in a press conference he said he'd play whereever VG wants him to play because he wants to stay in Barcelona. If he wants to stay in Barcelona so badly for one year, then possibly also for some more years. :)

BLAUGRANA
07-18-2002, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by Bier
I think Rivaldo would renew his contract if Barça just tried ... was there any aproach of Barça yet?

Rivaldo himself appeared on VGs black list since he supposingly wouldn't play left wing. Now in a press conference he said he'd play whereever VG wants him to play because he wants to stay in Barcelona. If he wants to stay in Barcelona so badly for one year, then possibly also for some more years. :)

I don't know if they've approached him yet, but he has said he won't even discuss it until after this season which leaves Barca in a lurch.

He better play where LVG tells him too. I hope he stays for a few more seasons. A two-year extension to his current deal would be nice. His salary should go down though as he makes a lot.

Bier
07-18-2002, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by azulgrana
A two-year extension to his current deal would be nice.

Same opinion here ... Rivaldo belongs to Barça and nowhere else IMO and I'd as well love to see him end his career with Barça. :star:

BLAUGRANA
07-19-2002, 04:40 AM
But if he doesn't agree to stay soon, I say offload him.

BLAUGRANA
07-19-2002, 04:42 AM
Great News!!! Mendieta could be ours for this season!!! :D It's been reported that he would join on loan for this season with Barca and Lazio splitting his salary (already a deal) as well as Lazio paying Valencia the fee stipulated in his contract if he returns to Spain this year. WHAT A DEAL if this is true! Also, we could probably sign him on the cheap the following season!

If he comes, I think Barca will be in great shape for next season. Seriously guys, if we have Rivaldo, Kluivert, Mendieta, Riquelme and Saviola all in the same lineup! I really think that if the squad gels this season under LVG, they'll bring us trophy. Possibly the league! :D

Bier
07-19-2002, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by azulgrana
WHAT A DEAL if this is true!


I hope so ... but I can't believe that Lazio are so dumb. :D

Originally posted by azulgrana
If he comes, I think Barca will be in great shape for next season. Seriously guys, if we have Rivaldo, Kluivert, Mendieta, Riquelme and Saviola all in the same lineup! I really think that if the squad gels this season under LVG, they'll bring us trophy. Possibly the league! :D

Don't forget Luis Enrique mate :)

Hopefully the Champions League ;) :D

BLAUGRANA
07-19-2002, 05:38 PM
Today's news is even better!!! Valencia's President Orti says that the fee Valencia would recieve as part of the deal has been taken care of (waived is what I read, but I doubt it as Valencia are very stingy). All that's left according to Orti is for Valencia and Barca to agree a deal for Mendieta. Barca President Gaspart says they're in no hurry, but an agreement is imminent. The loan move would probably have an option for a permanent move after this season.

This could be it!!!! :D

***About the Valencia fee. It would be only 2 million of the 8 million pounds right now and the other 6 million if the deal becomes permanent. Hopefully that's figured in to Lazio's final price. Actually, I just read they would pay that bit too. What were you saying Bier about Lazio being stupid? :D They're kinda looking that way now!

BLAUGRANA
07-19-2002, 05:41 PM
Barca reportedly faxed an offer to Bayer Leverkusen Friday morning for him. LVG is anxious to get players in by Monday when the full squad is presented. If we get him and Mendieta, look for someone to go.

Roberto Abrego
07-19-2002, 07:58 PM
Leverkusen's DT said that he dont want to sell more players he said that the team will not beas competittve as last season..

Bier
07-19-2002, 09:24 PM
Leverkusen say these things since they exist and in the end ever sell their players ;)

BLAUGRANA
07-19-2002, 09:43 PM
Fine by me. I just want Mendigol now.

Roberto Abrego
07-20-2002, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by Bier
Leverkusen say these things since they exist and in the end ever sell their players ;)


they have been saying thaty since loosing Bllack and Ze Roberto...

Roberto Abrego
07-20-2002, 01:05 AM
Originally posted by azulgrana
Fine by me. I just want Mendigol now.


i will prefer Rivaldo staying that Mendieta coming...

BLAUGRANA
07-20-2002, 03:46 AM
Originally posted by Roberto Abrego



i will prefer Rivaldo staying that Mendieta coming...

ROBERTO, please read my posts THOROUGHLY!!! It's no longer a matter of Rivaldo leaving and Mendigol coming in. It's now Rivaldo staying and Mendigol coming in playing with Rivaldo and the rest.

ALSO, if Rivaldo is UNWILLING to sign a contract extension meaning we could LOSE him next summer for NOTHING, don't you think we should sell him?!?!??? Or would you prefer that we keep him and lose him for nothing???

Azerkid
07-20-2002, 03:57 AM
We should get Mendi, and if possible sell Riva, and use the cash to sign another good player for a longer contract.

Bier
07-20-2002, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by Roberto Abrego

they have been saying thaty since loosing Bllack and Ze Roberto...

They have been saying it before those transfers as well. They said it when they lost Kovac to Bayern ... they said this when Beinlich left for Hertha BSC ... Believe me I know the german press and Leverkusens manager Rainer Calmund for longer then just since they reached the Champions League final. When they say these things that has nothing to say indeed. Leverkusen remain a small club after all and are happy with the money they can get for their players.


About Rivo ... I seriously don't wanna be under Gasparts skin in that case. Rivo is surely a key to success. But is it this worth, keeping him when we might lose him for nothing afterwards. I really don't know.

Robledo
07-20-2002, 01:20 PM
ha ha ha, anyone seen this story yet?


http://www.tribalfootball.com/july/spanishnews200702.html


Barca to give Rivaldo a free transfer THIS summer, with Man Utd and Real wanting to sign him up

However there is also talk in Marca that Fiorentino Perez is trying to sign up Rivaldo for next season when he is officially out of contract

BLAUGRANA
07-21-2002, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by Robledo
ha ha ha, anyone seen this story yet?


http://www.tribalfootball.com/july/spanishnews200702.html


Barca to give Rivaldo a free transfer THIS summer, with Man Utd and Real wanting to sign him up

However there is also talk in Marca that Fiorentino Perez is trying to sign up Rivaldo for next season when he is officially out of contract

Yeah, I saw it. I saw it on another website or two as well. I think that it could definately happen this summer. If he goes to Real Madrid though, that's it. I will hate him forever no matter what. It won't be as bad as what that greedy slug Figo did, but still.

BLAUGRANA
07-21-2002, 01:34 AM
Well, not quite. It depends on your source. I'll stick with Barca's official site and give you that info. Babangida, Traschorras, Sanchez and Tortolero were the players. For me, Babangida is big surprise as he scored 23 goals in Barca B last season and is still only 18. He's rated highly by other European clubs too.

Anyway, Sanchez will start training with Barca B in August and will be given a first team squad number to be available during the season if the manager needs him. The same goes for Torotlero.

With Babangida and Trashorras, the club is looking to transfer him so as to further his development as a player, whilst keeping a close eye on his progress. If a transfer is not possible he’ll stay with Barca B. This to me sounds like they mean loan moves and not actual transfers, which for me in the case of Babangida is good news.

Other Barca youth players mentioned were Santamaria, who will join the pre season trip to Switzerland next week and then the club will look to transfer him to another team. This to me sounds like a definate transfer and not a loan.

Finally, Fernando Navarro will join the first team squad training sessions on a regular basis in the same way as Víctor Valdés, Andrés Iniesta and Thiago Motta.

All of this is a reflection of Barca's current financial state of affairs as they are looking to trim the wage bill. That's why I wouldn't rule out seeing them let Rivaldo go now for free a year early as he makes over $6 million per year.

Roberto Abrego
07-21-2002, 02:45 AM
Originally posted by azulgrana


ROBERTO, please read my posts THOROUGHLY!!! It's no longer a matter of Rivaldo leaving and Mendigol coming in. It's now Rivaldo staying and Mendigol coming in playing with Rivaldo and the rest.

ALSO, if Rivaldo is UNWILLING to sign a contract extension meaning we could LOSE him next summer for NOTHING, don't you think we should sell him?!?!??? Or would you prefer that we keep him and lose him for nothing???



but the póint is that we should give rivaldo the money he wants!

BLAUGRANA
07-21-2002, 02:49 AM
Originally posted by Roberto Abrego




but the póint is that we should give rivaldo the money he wants!

NO WAY!!! ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! He should get what he currently earns at the most and should probably take a pay cut. Barca can't afford to pay that sort of salary.

BLAUGRANA
07-21-2002, 08:12 AM
Look for Mendigol to arrive in Barcelona tomorrow and be unveiled on Monday!!! :D :D :D :D :D

LVG is bringing in the right people IMO.

Robledo
07-21-2002, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by azulgrana


NO WAY!!! ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! He should get what he currently earns at the most and should probably take a pay cut. Barca can't afford to pay that sort of salary.


I agree, Barca should not be held to ransom . If he does move on next year, I very much doubt interested clubs such as Lazio would be able to afford his astronomical wages either (despite being a free agent). Italian clubs in particular are cutting down on costs to curb their financial problems (ie: look at Recoba/Vieri/Ronaldo case). The big spending/pay packet days could be over so I doubt Riva will be earning as much as he does now

Robledo
07-21-2002, 01:14 PM
Here's what Salgado says of the "Rivaldo to Real rumour" (soccerage.com)


Michel Salgado believes the world of football has gone mad if a player like Rivaldo can step off from Barcelona for nothing. "I don't believe in that sort of rumour", the Real Madrid defender said. "This is bulls*t from the media. However, if he was to walk away for free, it would mean our world has gone mad".

BLAUGRANA
07-21-2002, 08:25 PM
His name keeps coming up. It did again today. With Rivaldo gone, there could be something in this.

BLAUGRANA
07-22-2002, 03:16 AM
I wonder if Barca are still going to make a move or two in the transfer market. They are reportedly saving 11 million pounds by letting go of Rivaldo, so maybe they can bring in one more player. We'll see.

Robledo
07-22-2002, 03:47 PM
Maybe a small down payment for D'Allesandros services :D

Bier
07-22-2002, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by AZULGRANA
For me, Babangida is big surprise as he scored 23 goals in Barca B last season and is still only 18.
I think THIS is a big mistake. :( ... I had the possibility to watch a Barça B match at Ministadi last year and there I saw :star: Baba :star: the first time playing live and I must say I seldomly saw a player who impressed me that much in one single match. He has it all vision, pace, shots, killer instinct and he is a pure genius in dribbling ... he keeps a ball for minutes, making fools out of his oponents. He'll surely make his way ... sad that he does not seem to do that at Barça. :(

BLAUGRANA
07-22-2002, 04:42 PM
This from soccernet:

Monday, July 22, 2002
Barca transfer deals show changing financial picture
By Kevin Fylan

MADRID, July 22 (Reuters) - Barcelona's decision to release Brazilian forward Rivaldo with a year remaining on his contract may have had more to do with his personal relationship with coach Louis van Gaal than the club's desire to save money.
Transfer dealings at the Nou Camp over recent weeks offer a stark picture of the changing financial landscape in the Spanish game, though, as a club that has spent freely over recent seasons has been forced into a belt-tightening exercise.

In 1997, when van Gaal began his first spell in charge at the Catalan giants, the club shelled out over £41million to sign seven players, while another £25million was spent in 1998 and £17.8million in 1999.

In 2000, the club banked £35million from the sale of Luis Figo to Real Madrid but spent more than £50million in a massive rebuilding programme.

That was followed by an even bigger outlay of £57million 12 months ago, as another seven players were signed.

'When I was here last time there was money and Barcelona could sign any player that interested us,' van Gaal said in a recent newspaper interview.

'We also sold players for important sums. In the current climate you sign whoever you can afford. There's no spare money.'

MODEST SUMS

That economy drive has allowed the club to sign just three players over the pre-season, despite the departure of several leading figures.

Barca paid just over £3.8million to acquire half of Juan Roman Riquelme's contract from Boca Juniors, while goalkeeper Robert Enke came on a free transfer and Spanish international midfielder Gaizka Mendieta joined on loan from Lazio.

Rivaldo had a huge row with van Gaal over the coach's tactical formation back in 1999 and few doubt that the main reason behind the Brazilian's departure is the pair's poor relationship.

The decision will have the added benefit of saving Barcelona salary costs estimated in some newspapers to be as high as £7.6million for just one season.

The club have also given free transfers this summer to two more high earners, the Spanish international defenders Sergi and Abelardo.

Barcelona are not the only club to have been unusually subdued in the transfer market.

European champions Real Madrid, who broke the world transfer record twice in two seasons to bring in Figo and Zinedine Zidane for a combined cost of $122 million, have not signed a single player this year.

Real managed to clear a debt of more than £160million by selling off their training ground and Perez, anxious to avoid another slide into the red, has told his technical staff to axe seven players from the squad.

MONEY-MAKING POTENTIAL

But Real Madrid and Barcelona at least still have huge money-making potential.

The two giants of the Spanish game have their own separate deals for television rights, running from 2003 to 2008 and worth around £3.2million each a season.

Real recently signed a three-year shirt sponsorship deal with Siemens Mobile reportedly worth over 30 million euros.

Barcelona, meanwhile, added drinks manufacturers Coca-Cola and Damm to their list of main sponsors over the summer, deals that will bring in 12 million euros.

The rest of Spain's first division clubs are currently negotiating a new deal for TV rights to run from 2003.

According to recent reports in Spain, that new agreement is likely to net the remaining 18 clubs between £152million and £190million a season, around the same level they currently receive.

With uncertainty still surrounding the issue, though, most clubs are exercising caution in the transfer market.

A recent survey in sports daily As suggested that spending is down around 60 percent from last year, with only Atletico Madrid and Deportivo Coruna laying out significant sums.

Atletico paid around £9.5million to bring in Javi Moreno from AC Milan, while Deportivo have spent over £12.7million on Paraguayan midfielder Roberto Acuna and Portuguese centre-back Jorge Andrade.

Those sort of sums, commonplace last year, have become the exception -- at least for now.

'I believe there will be still be a lot of signings around the $12-18 million mark,' Deportivo Coruna president Augusto Lendoiro said in a recent interview with Marca.

'They won't come quite as often but as soon as this uncertainty over TV rights is over there will be signings on that scale.

'It is obvious that clubs are going to have to cut costs, though.'

Bier
07-22-2002, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by AZULGRANA
That economy drive has allowed the club to sign just three players over the pre-season, despite the departure of several leading figures.

Barca paid just over £3.8million to acquire half of Juan Roman Riquelme's contract from Boca Juniors, while goalkeeper Robert Enke came on a free transfer and Spanish international midfielder Gaizka Mendieta joined on loan from Lazio.


So much to the reliability of that source: LUIS GARCIA! :)

Well ... in the end I don't think we got financial problems ... we're just getting more intellegent. ;)

nismo
07-23-2002, 03:42 AM
Originally posted by azulgrana
For me, Babangida is big surprise as he scored 23 goals in Barca B last season and is still only 18.

hey is the babangida's of former ajax younger brother?? because if he is anything like his brother, he's an incredib;y fast player, and is up there with henry and owen as the fastest of europe.

BLAUGRANA
07-23-2002, 04:43 AM
Originally posted by nismo

hey is the babangida's of former ajax younger brother?? because if he is anything like his brother, he's an incredib;y fast player, and is up there with henry and owen as the fastest of europe.

I think that he is his younger brother. Who knows though, maybe the name Babangida is very common in Nigeria. :D

nismo
07-23-2002, 07:27 AM
fair enuff :D

Bier
07-23-2002, 10:13 AM
Yeah he is his brother ... I read that somewhere when Barça signed him at the tender age of 16. :)

nismo
07-23-2002, 10:27 AM
well i hope he has a much better time than his brother, who i think is going thru difficult times with his club vitesse arnhem

Olesen10
07-23-2002, 12:23 PM
I found a new computer, going home tomorrow...

Just "read" a Spanish newspaper, they had a poster with the whole team, but I could not spot Rivaldo, I looked further, and there was printed Adiós Rivaldo...:cry: And then i saw that Riquelme should take over the number 10 shirt... LVG should have kept Rivaldo, I now it is not realistic but he should!!! The brazilian style will now be gone. I now you say that we have got a much younger and better player (Riquelme), but no one can pass, move and score like Rivaldo IMO. If we kept him, we could have an attack with Kluivert, Rivaldo, Saviola, Mendieta, Enrique and Riquelme. Now that Rivaldo is out, it does not sound that good. Okay, good but not genius. If we had him and the others we have now, we could beat RM! I know a team can only have 4 not european players, and that was probably also a reason, but what a dream!

Robledo
07-23-2002, 12:49 PM
It looks as though Bernd Schneider is staying at Bayer Leverkusen despite the intense speculation over a projected Barca move.

He said he had recieved no contact from Barca either

http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=100552&Title=%53%63%68%6E%65%69%64%65%72%20%73%74%61%79%69%6E%67%20%70%75%74

BLAUGRANA
07-23-2002, 04:56 PM
still hasn't signed an extension with Betis. It'd be nice if we went for him, but I'm sure that won't happen.

BLAUGRANA
07-24-2002, 04:43 AM
Barca are rumoured to be looking at Sevilla's Jose Reyes as a replacement for Rivaldo. He's only 18 and has also been rumoured to be a target of Real Madrid and Arsenal. He hasn't accepted Sevilla's latest contract extension offer.

nismo
07-24-2002, 06:50 AM
barca should go for joaquin as i feel he's got what it itakes to succeed figo as the best winger in la liga.

BLAUGRANA
07-24-2002, 08:14 AM
Originally posted by nismo
barca should go for joaquin as i feel he's got what it itakes to succeed figo as the best winger in la liga.

I'd love to see him come in. OR, we could always bring Simao back!!! :D

Bier
07-24-2002, 04:39 PM
Wanna see an impressive Riquelme-action ???

http://personales.com/argentina/buenosaires/antigallinas/videos.htm

Most of this videos do not work ... but the mpeg file (second from the bottom of that list is downloadable as a zip. file ... It's an impressive trick by Riquelme ... I think I already watched it a thousand times and tried it sometimes when playing footy myself with my mates. I even made it. :star: :)

Riquelmes fansite http://romy10.com.ar has opened a Barcelona section now with Fotos and wallpapers. :star:

Bier
07-24-2002, 06:20 PM
from http://www.atleticozone.com :

Luis Garcia to Atlético

In the next hours Luis Garcia is expected to sign for Atlético. The left winger will sign a contract for four seasons.

Both clubs are said to have agreed on the transfer yesterday. Atlético will pay the transfer fee of Luis Garcia over 3 seasons starting after this season. This is a good solution for Atlético who have to be carefull with spending their money.

Luis Garcia was expected to do the pre-season with Barcelona but Van Gaal told him he didn't need him anymore after the arrival of Mendieta.

nismo
07-25-2002, 05:56 AM
Originally posted by AZULGRANA


I'd love to see him come in. OR, we could always bring Simao back!!! :D
or better bring back figo lol:mad: :evil: :smoking:

BLAUGRANA
07-25-2002, 06:14 AM
Originally posted by nismo

or better bring back figo lol:mad: :evil: :smoking:

The only way I'd take Figo back is if he apologized to the fans, the president, and the players he left behind. Also, it'd have to be on a free transfer and he'd have to take a wage cut.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!! That greedy b@st@rd would never agree to any of it.

Robledo
07-25-2002, 04:17 PM
Reports in Spain and Italy say Barca are ready to bid for Placente (again). Juan Pablo Sorin and Juanfran have also been mentioned if they don't get him.

I kinda feel sorry for Bayer though, they would have an awesome team if they'd kept all their best players (Emerson,Ballack,Kovac,Ze Robeeto etc).

I think Barca need a left back. Who would play left back now? Puyol? De Boer? Christanval? They would torn apart by players with pace (ie: Joaquin). Get Placente in!

Plus he has an Italian passport, so this would overcome the 4 non EU problem.

Kleberson also mentioned, but I highly doubt it because he doesn't possess an EU passport

Bier
07-25-2002, 06:54 PM
If we don't sign another defender, I think Cocu will play left back. Van Gaal likes versatile players and has no problem with using them in new positions (remember Zenden? ;) ) ... that's why I thought that might happen. ;)

BLAUGRANA
07-26-2002, 12:11 AM
Originally posted by Robledo
Reports in Spain and Italy say Barca are ready to bid for Placente (again). Juan Pablo Sorin and Juanfran have also been mentioned if they don't get him.

I kinda feel sorry for Bayer though, they would have an awesome team if they'd kept all their best players (Emerson,Ballack,Kovac,Ze Robeeto etc).

I think Barca need a left back. Who would play left back now? Puyol? De Boer? Christanval? They would torn apart by players with pace (ie: Joaquin). Get Placente in!

Plus he has an Italian passport, so this would overcome the 4 non EU problem.

Kleberson also mentioned, but I highly doubt it because he doesn't possess an EU passport

I'm not yet convinced about Placente. The passport helps though. Bayer will want a mountain of money.

nismo
07-26-2002, 04:03 AM
Originally posted by Robledo


Kleberson also mentioned, but I highly doubt it because he doesn't possess an EU passport
apart fromt the established stars in brazil NT, kleberson was the one that impressed me the most, he was much better than juninho when big phil gave him the chance. kleberson would be better than rochemback, getting forward, winning the ball, and getting on the socre sheet IMO, so maybe barca could kick out that german-samba half caste and get this pocket rocket into the side instead:D

BLAUGRANA
07-26-2002, 04:34 AM
Originally posted by nismo

apart fromt the established stars in brazil NT, kleberson was the one that impressed me the most, he was much better than juninho when big phil gave him the chance. kleberson would be better than rochemback, getting forward, winning the ball, and getting on the socre sheet IMO, so maybe barca could kick out that german-samba half caste and get this pocket rocket into the side instead:D

Sounds like he's headed to the EPL though.

nismo
07-26-2002, 04:49 AM
i doubt the minister of housing and labour would issue him a work permit since he hasn't played in 75% or more of brazil matches for the past few years.
it's really beaurcratic process if you're not a regular NT player or EU-passport holder.

Robledo
07-28-2002, 03:29 PM
Looks like another Barca youngester is on his way out next year after the club decided not to offer him an improved deal. Betis and Celta are interested in signing him

Robledo
07-28-2002, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by nismo
i doubt the minister of housing and labour would issue him a work permit since he hasn't played in 75% or more of brazil matches for the past few years.
it's really beaurcratic process if you're not a regular NT player or EU-passport holder.

No doubt he will be turrned down by the Department Of Employment the 1st time, but if an EPL club appeals the decision I'm confident they would be sucessful in obtaining a work permit. It's happened with a few players already. I think Villa had problems with Juan Pablo Angel and Southampon with Pahars. Failed 1st time, but successful the 2nd time. Besides Gilberto Silva who has just moved to Arsenal has only recently become an established international player and he's had no problems getting a permit

The Department Of Employment's criteria is to not accept players that would not improve the English game. I highly doubt they'd turn down a World Cup Winner

BLAUGRANA
07-29-2002, 12:21 AM
Azulgrana being myself. Certain clubs are looking on as they feel Diego Tristan could be sold by Deportivo. Deportivo say he's not for sale, but there have been rumours about him being sold for months now. You all know i'd like to see him partner Kluivert up front.

Chivu's contract with Ajax is up in 12 months. His current buyout clause is 12.5 million pounds. I hope LVG takes notice and goes for him. He would solve any defensive questions about the left side and could eventually move into the center. He'd be great on the left in a 3 man defense.

nismo
07-31-2002, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by Robledo


No doubt he will be turrned down by the Department Of Employment the 1st time, but if an EPL club appeals the decision I'm confident they would be sucessful in obtaining a work permit. It's happened with a few players already. I think Villa had problems with Juan Pablo Angel and Southampon with Pahars. Failed 1st time, but successful the 2nd time. Besides Gilberto Silva who has just moved to Arsenal has only recently become an established international player and he's had no problems getting a permit

The Department Of Employment's criteria is to not accept players that would not improve the English game. I highly doubt they'd turn down a World Cup Winner
you never know, these english hooligans could be jealous of kelberson due to england's loss against brazil :D
but ur right a world cup winner would surely get the nod, except i reckon with kelwberson it'll take an appeal or two

nismo
07-31-2002, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by AZULGRANA
Azulgrana being myself. Certain clubs are looking on as they feel Diego Tristan could be sold by Deportivo. Deportivo say he's not for sale, but there have been rumours about him being sold for months now. You all know i'd like to see him partner Kluivert up front.

Chivu's contract with Ajax is up in 12 months. His current buyout clause is 12.5 million pounds. I hope LVG takes notice and goes for him. He would solve any defensive questions about the left side and could eventually move into the center. He'd be great on the left in a 3 man defense.
Tristan would be a good buy, i reckon someone like Nisteelroy or Ronaldo would be better (did u read on kluivert's icon.com site, he even mention ronie in his fantasyXI!! :D)) but that just me daydreaming again:angel:

Robledo
08-01-2002, 03:26 PM
The Jardel rumour is resurfacing yet again.


Barcelona make offer for Lisbon ace Jardel
tribalfootball.com - August 1, 2002

Barcelona have made an offer for Sporting Lisbon striker Mario Jardel.
According to Portuguese radio, Barca have tabled an official bid for the Brazilian to play the coming season on-loan at the Nou Camp.

Sporting have rejected the report, but radio TSF insist the offer was made yesterday morning.

Jardel announced last week he wasn't prepared to continue playing in Portugal after a messy separation from his wife, Karen Ribeiro.

On loan? I doubt Sporting would allow that

DRUMan
08-02-2002, 12:53 AM
I heard that you want Jardel on loan for 1 year...

Bier
08-02-2002, 09:23 AM
Jardel is a natural born goalscorer and I'd love to have him at Barcelona. But not on loan. :) We need him to be fully ours. I don't want him to score tons of goals to then leave again. To f'cken Sporting.

Robledo
08-02-2002, 03:05 PM
Looks like Jardel is on his way. Van Gaal has been quoted as saying he would like him at the Camp Nou.

"It is certain that the club is interested in Jardel"

"The good players have always interested me. Jardel, I tried to buy at Ajax and later with Barcelona"

"Jardel could play in Barcelona but that does not mean we are going to make an offer for him, I am not saying that"

Robledo
08-02-2002, 03:50 PM
An agreement has been reached with D'Allesandro!

Barcelona reach River agreement over D'Alessandro
tribalfootball.com - August 2, 2002

Barcelona have secured an agreement for River Plate ace Andres D'Alessandro.
The young playmaker is rated the hottest talent in South America and was also tracked by Manchester United, Leeds and Juventus.

The deal was struck this week between Barca representatives and River and will see D'Alessandro move to the Nou Camp in a year's time.

The two clubs now must settle on a transfer fee for the youngster - though Barca are in no hurry and will take their time over negotiations.

Looks like Barca is turning from a Dutch - to an Argentine colony:D

nismo
08-03-2002, 09:47 AM
yeah i read that , it's very good news, he's going to be an excellent additon to an already impressive team.

hey Zul, if you're reading this, this is what i'm talking about, poaching youth talent :D:evil:

Olesen10
08-03-2002, 12:03 PM
I'm back! Haven't posted lately, sorry...What a game! I think we have found the best replacement for Rivaldo!!!

And for those who don't know me, I've just had a trip to Spain where i visited Nou Camp...Before that I used to post here (see this thread and others at this board through...) And now I'm back...BTW, welcome to the WSB!!! Stick around here!

Soon you'll all have the possiblity to see pictures from the grand el Nou Camp, okay some are with me and the grand el Nou Camp, but what the heck...

Like old Arnold once said: I'll be back!

Bier
08-03-2002, 05:03 PM
Welcome back then, mate. :) Camp Nou is a dream, eh? Though I've seen it several times myself I can't wait to see your pics. ;)

Olesen10
08-03-2002, 11:24 PM
I just took a look at the pics...They are not presspics...:)And some of them are with me in the front :alien:, well most of them are with me in the front...But I've got one of the field, all the trophys and some others without me.
I'll scan them as soon as possible!

Olesen10
08-03-2002, 11:29 PM
What's up with the D'Alessandro rumor? Is he ours, or is it just another silly rumor like Ronaldo going to RM?


Oh, BTW. If you want to, you can take a look at my website. It's in danish, but maybe you know some danish mates you can refer it to...
www.fcbarca.tk

Bier
08-04-2002, 12:40 AM
Your website's cool ... though I don't understand too much ... my site is about Benfica (the only english talking Benfica site in the net ;) ) http://come.to/eagleweb

Hmmm ... however ... back to the topic ... from what I heard we've reached an agreement with D'Alessandro for next season and so long have time to negotiate a transfer fee with River ... so he's close to be ours next year. :)
About Ronie ... I will only believe this when I see him in Real Mierda's shirt. ;)

Olesen10
08-04-2002, 11:05 AM
I don't know much about Benfica, but your website looks good!

Man a dream to see Ronaldo in the proud shirt again! But that's not gonna happen...:(

Bier
08-04-2002, 01:42 PM
Never mind we're after Jardel ... he's da bomb ... maybe the best goalgetter in the world at the moment .. would be great if we could get him. :star:

Olesen10
08-04-2002, 09:17 PM
Yeah, back to reality...Jardel, he's with Benfica allright?

Bier
08-04-2002, 10:46 PM
Nope ... actually he's with Sporting ;) ... the more convincing must my praising words on him be. Believe me as a Benfiquista this guy really humps on my nerves with Sporting since he's the kind of guy that always scores the important goals (42 in league this year) and saves his team maybe 20 points or more. My biggest wish thus is once to have him at one of my sides for that I don't have to worry his goals anymore. ;)

Olesen10
08-05-2002, 11:08 AM
It's always important to have a true goalscorer. Van Nistelrooy is one of the best I can think of, maybe Hasselbaink. Kluivert has scored goals, but not as many as we would like him to score. Actually I think Saviola scored more goals than him last season. We need a guy who scores in almost every match, a forward.

Bier
08-05-2002, 03:17 PM
Kluivert scored 18 and Saviola 17 in last year's Primera. I'd be perfectly happy if they both could make it 20 ... They are an explosive strike force anyway. :star: :)

Azerkid
08-05-2002, 07:41 PM
Roy Makaay rumour is buzzing around and it is said he could come to us if Depo lets him go on a respectable fee.

Azerkid
08-05-2002, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by Olesen10
It's always important to have a true goalscorer. Van Nistelrooy is one of the best I can think of, maybe Hasselbaink. Kluivert has scored goals, but not as many as we would like him to score. Actually I think Saviola scored more goals than him last season. We need a guy who scores in almost every match, a forward.

What about Van Hooijdonk? It would be possible to aquire him for a right price ;), i dont think he very expensive but he is aging (31).

Roberto Abrego
08-06-2002, 12:22 AM
I think Kluivert scored more goals....

I think it will be hard to sing JFH

It will be easier to buy Eidur Gudjohnsen...he will probably leave Chelsea...

Azerkid
08-06-2002, 12:25 AM
He's a good player but i dont think he will adapt in Spain, and i dont see him playing in Spain since Sunderland are after him.

Roberto Abrego
08-06-2002, 12:27 AM
I dont think he will sign for Sunderland.....


I dont think he will sign for Barcelona either...

but I am sure he can adapt himself to La Liga!

Roberto Abrego
08-06-2002, 12:39 AM
It would be exellent to buy him...


but I prefer Tristan!

Azerkid
08-06-2002, 03:40 AM
You cant be sure because last year was his "breakout year" and
we have to wait and see if he is for real.

Roberto Abrego
08-06-2002, 06:03 AM
He is a very talented player he is capable of adapting to any league in Europe....


but I am sure FC Barcelona wont buy him :(

Olesen10
08-06-2002, 12:50 PM
I know it sounds like a silly rumor, and it probably is, but I've just read, from what i think as pretty reliable website, bold.dk (ball.dk in english), that Ronaldo arrives to Milano today to discuss his future with Inter. The website says that he want's to go to another club, and Marca wrote yesterday that Barca are interested i him, and for every offer RM makes, Barca will put 1.5 $ dollar more in for his signature. It maybe a rumor, but I like it!!

Get him back LVG! Then we would have the best team, much better than RM. Figo are not good anymore, Zidane's getting older and Raul can't anything without them. We've got young Riquelme and Saviola, the lion Puyol and a fine goalscorer in Kluivert. Think what team Ronaldo and Kluivert would make...

:ronaldo:
http://alonsoherrero.tripod.ca/ronaldo_barcelona_v_compostela.avi

Check the videoclip out! That's why he's called "El Phenemeno"!

BLAUGRANA
08-06-2002, 04:30 PM
Jardel

Wouldn't be a bad move if the price was right. I'd prefer Kluivert and Saviola to him though. I think if we go for a striker, it should be a real goal poacher (not that Jardel isn't). It should also be someone who can compete or even displace our current strikers. Jardel would be good cover though. However, it looks like LVG is giving Dani a real look this preseason.

Ronaldo

If he goes anywhere it'll be to Real Madrid and not here. I hope Inter make Real pay through the @ss if they get him. I'd tell Real I want Raul in exchange. :eek: See how they like that!! :evil:

D'Alessandro

Sounds like this one could happen in the next year or so. I'm not a big fan of the Argies, but this kid sounds like the real deal. If we could get him on the cheap, it'd be even better. Either way, his resale would be amazing. Then we'd have all the Argie prospects except Aimar and Cavenaghi.

Bier
08-06-2002, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by AZULGRANA
I'd tell Real I want Raul in exchange. :eek: See how they like that!! :evil:

:D Great idea :star: I'd give it a try. I expect Perez to be freak enough to seal that deal. :D

BLAUGRANA
08-07-2002, 04:49 AM
Chelsea reportedly turned down a bid of 10 million pounds plus Michael Reiziger from Barca for JFH. I think that he would be a good buy at that price and I'd prefer him to Jardel. JFH was leading scorer the last time he was in La Liga with Atletico Madrid. I also read that it was just the 10 million pounds.

Roberto Abrego
08-07-2002, 06:11 AM
yes I prefer him too his more comple also...

Juanele
08-07-2002, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by AZULGRANA
JFH was leading scorer the last time he was in La Liga with Atletico Madrid.

He was third leading scorer in the League (if that's what you meant). Salva was the Pichichi.

JFH would be a good pickup but only if Van Gaal wasn't the coach (hence, he doesn't fit into VG's system).

Robledo
08-07-2002, 12:43 PM
Did anyone else see this? Kluivert quoted on the Official Newcastle United Web Site as saying:

"I was aware that Newcastle United wanted me a couple of years ago, but at that time I was very happy at Barca and wanted to stay so I don't know how far the interest went.

"But things change. And I've been at Barcelona for five years now, so who knows what will happen in the future?

"I know Newcastle are a greart club and a good team, and my team-mates in the national team who have played for Mr Robson say he is a good coach and also a fantastic man."

"I'd consider any offer that came in, and if Newcastle were still interested in me, then why not?

BLAUGRANA
08-07-2002, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by Juanele


He was third leading scorer in the League (if that's what you meant). Salva was the Pichichi.

JFH would be a good pickup but only if Van Gaal wasn't the coach (hence, he doesn't fit into VG's system).


He'd fit in just fine. Why has LVG publicly stated he'd want him if he didn't think he'd fit in?

BLAUGRANA
08-07-2002, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by Robledo
Did anyone else see this? Kluivert quoted on the Official Newcastle United Web Site as saying:

"I was aware that Newcastle United wanted me a couple of years ago, but at that time I was very happy at Barca and wanted to stay so I don't know how far the interest went.

"But things change. And I've been at Barcelona for five years now, so who knows what will happen in the future?

"I know Newcastle are a greart club and a good team, and my team-mates in the national team who have played for Mr Robson say he is a good coach and also a fantastic man."

"I'd consider any offer that came in, and if Newcastle were still interested in me, then why not?

I think Kluivert was just being nice cause it was the Official Toon site interviewing him. I don't think he'd make a move to Newcastle. No offense Robledo, but I only think he'd move to England if it were to United, the Arsehole or Liverfool.

Robledo
08-07-2002, 05:10 PM
none taken Azul !!! You're probably right ! But I think he'd consider a move to St James' once he sees our wonderful stadium and fans. Majestic! Bah, we don't need him anyway!

Btw, I'm going to the Barcelona match tonight. In about 1 hours time actually!!! :D :D :D

My 2 favourite teams in action ! it's not often that comes along, so I better make the most if it

BLAUGRANA
08-07-2002, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by Robledo
none taken Azul !!! You're probably right ! But I think he'd consider a move to St James' once he sees our wonderful stadium and fans. Majestic! Bah, we don't need him anyway!

Btw, I'm going to the Barcelona match tonight. In about 1 hours time actually!!! :D :D :D

My 2 favourite teams in action ! it's not often that comes along, so I better make the most if it

I think Newcastle is really becoming a big club and is headed in the right direction. I think the improvements to the capacity of St. James Park were very smart. I'm sure it still doesn't meet the demand of the Toon Army.

About the match, YOU LUCKY B@ST@RD!!! :D

Robledo
08-08-2002, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by AZULGRANA


I think Newcastle is really becoming a big club and is headed in the right direction. I think the improvements to the capacity of St. James Park were very smart. I'm sure it still doesn't meet the demand of the Toon Army.

About the match, YOU LUCKY B@ST@RD!!! :D

May I retract my last statement about Kluivert and Newcastle :D

Yeah, Azul , we're definitely heading in the right direction. Sir Bobby is building a team for the future . We only have 2 players in the entire squad over the age of 30 (Alan Shearer, Gary Speed). IMO we've got one of the best YOUNG squads in Europe, (Jermaine Jenas, Craig Bellamy, Kieron Dyer, Titus Bramble, O'Brien, Shay Given .....I could go on. You may not recognize these names, but you will in time.)

The average age of the squad would be 23 years old without Shearer and Speed. Hopefully in a few years time, SBR legacy of building for the future wil prosper with trophies.

Anyways, back to Barca........................:D

BLAUGRANA
08-08-2002, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by Robledo


May I retract my last statement about Kluivert and Newcastle :D

Yeah, Azul , we're definitely heading in the right direction. Sir Bobby is building a team for the future . We only have 2 players in the entire squad over the age of 30 (Alan Shearer, Gary Speed). IMO we've got one of the best YOUNG squads in Europe, (Jermaine Jenas, Craig Bellamy, Kieron Dyer, Titus Bramble, O'Brien, Shay Given .....I could go on. You may not recognize these names, but you will in time.)

The average age of the squad would be 23 years old without Shearer and Speed. Hopefully in a few years time, SBR legacy of building for the future wil prosper with trophies.

Anyways, back to Barca........................:D

Retract your statement??? :confused:

I'm quite familiar with all of the players you've mentioned. I watch the EPL every week as it's the only big league I can watch (other than the Bundesliga). I wish La Liga and the Serie A would get back on over here. Anyway, I know all of those players pretty well. I'm surprised Dyer is still around. I think they brought in Jenas as a possible replacement should Dyer leave. Given is amazing.

Robledo
08-08-2002, 12:45 AM
lol , sorry, I meant rethink what I said about Kluivert wanting to join Newcastle after that performance! I doubt he'd want to come now! :D

Yeah, I'm not that surprised Dyer is still around tho. He commands a huge transfer fee (20m+), and with the current state of football in Italy, the likes of Inter (who were linked with him in the past), can no longer afford these figures. Maybe Man U could afford him, but they have enough midfielders there alredy like the 28m flop Juan Veron

Jermaine Jenas and Dyer are different sorts of players. JJ can defend and attack,and is very similar to Patrick Vieira in a way. JJ and Dyer would be a perfect blend in central midfield this season (But SBR will choose the experienced Gary Speed unfortunately)

Roberto Abrego
08-08-2002, 01:16 AM
Dyeris overvalue....

Robledo
08-08-2002, 01:20 AM
Yes ! To stop the other ' big clubs' from getting him! The price tag keep them away:D

BLAUGRANA
08-08-2002, 01:20 AM
Originally posted by Roberto Abrego
Dyeris overvalue....

Maybe a little, but not much. When healthy, he's one of the best wingers out there.

Robledo
08-08-2002, 01:25 AM
I agree Azul, on form he can tear defences apart and is great to watch!

Whilst he can play anywhere across the midfield, he is a central midfielder. He played there for Ipswich, and now plays in this role for Newcastle (he only played on the wing when we had injuries)

Olesen10
08-08-2002, 02:47 PM
Man I'm looking forward to see the new fcbarcelona.com website's look! (Not to change the subject, Azul and Robledo...)

But we won! And it seems like we're getting better!

BLAUGRANA
08-08-2002, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by Olesen10
Man I'm looking forward to see the new fcbarcelona.com website's look! (Not to change the subject, Azul and Robledo...)

But we won! And it seems like we're getting better!

Me too. The new website looks cool. I hope they will have details about how to become one of the second tier club members on the website.

nismo
08-08-2002, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by Robledo
I agree Azul, on form he can tear defences apart and is great to watch!

Whilst he can play anywhere across the midfield, he is a central midfielder. He played there for Ipswich, and now plays in this role for Newcastle (he only played on the wing when we had injuries)
true that
Dyer flying on the flanks is a joy to watch. i still remeber the match where he tore leeds to shreds and left harte in his trail. But being injury prone is a major downside and i couldn't see him make a real impact against barca as well.

Azerkid
08-09-2002, 01:14 AM
BTW guys I don't know if you guys heard or mentined this but after the Newcastle game Paddy Kluivert said, " A few years ago when Newcastle made an offer to me I declined becasue i was happy at Barca, but if they still are interested then why not???"

I got this from Skysports news.

BLAUGRANA
08-09-2002, 05:25 AM
Originally posted by Azerkid
BTW guys I don't know if you guys heard or mentined this but after the Newcastle game Paddy Kluivert said, " A few years ago when Newcastle made an offer to me I declined becasue i was happy at Barca, but if they still are interested then why not???"

I got this from Skysports news.

Yeah, we already heard that bit. He said it to the Official Newcastle website, so I don't put to much stock into it. What was he gonna say, "I'd love to play for Man Utd." I think if Kluivert ever goes to England, he'll go to either United, the Arsehole or Liverfool.

BLAUGRANA
08-09-2002, 04:43 PM
According to Soccerage he is. I hope so. IMO he hasn't been necessarily really good or really bad for us. However, I think if we sold him and put the money towards someone like Chivu it would be a very smart investment in the future. Barca shelled out 7 million pounds for him. I think we'd get at least that much back, possibly a bit more. He's still young and hasn't been a flop or anything.

Now I just read he's available on loan too. Maybe a better option. If he impresses somewhere on loan, his value should be higher in the end and we'd save on his wages for this season.

BLAUGRANA
08-11-2002, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by AZULGRANA
According to Soccerage he is. I hope so. IMO he hasn't been necessarily really good or really bad for us. However, I think if we sold him and put the money towards someone like Chivu it would be a very smart investment in the future. Barca shelled out 7 million pounds for him. I think we'd get at least that much back, possibly a bit more. He's still young and hasn't been a flop or anything.

Now I just read he's available on loan too. Maybe a better option. If he impresses somewhere on loan, his value should be higher in the end and we'd save on his wages for this season.

Christanval says LVG and the club's directors don't want him to go. He also said that LVG wants him to play right back (I would assume that's so Puyol can move to the middle). I still would rather we sold Christanval, but now probably isnt' the best time.

Olesen10
08-11-2002, 06:41 PM
I don't get why Christianval shall play right back. He couldn't take over Puyols place! If he should, he will have to do a hell lot better this season than he did last season! And if it happen, god forbid it, then Puyol should take over Luis Enrique's position!? That doesn't make any sense...I hope LVG keeps the right side the way we had it last season, and concentrate about the left side, that's were we'll have do a lot better!

Azerkid
08-11-2002, 08:17 PM
I say sell Christinval, and use that money to get Hofland or Chivu

BLAUGRANA
08-12-2002, 04:37 AM
Originally posted by Olesen10
I don't get why Christianval shall play right back. He couldn't take over Puyols place! If he should, he will have to do a hell lot better this season than he did last season! And if it happen, god forbid it, then Puyol should take over Luis Enrique's position!? That doesn't make any sense...I hope LVG keeps the right side the way we had it last season, and concentrate about the left side, that's were we'll have do a lot better!

Nice to see you Lasse.

Puyol would move to the CB position if Christanval goes out to the right.

I think both the left and the right sides are fine for now, especially in the midfield. I would like to see some more depth at the fullback positions though.

nismo
08-12-2002, 03:10 PM
do guys still have reiziger??
anyways, i don't like puyol playing at RB. he was so good there, why change it if it's not broken?
christanval should still play at CB IMO, until a new a better defender can be found. someone from the youth team perhaps?

Juanele
08-12-2002, 04:44 PM
HABRÁ REFUERZO ANTES DEL 31 DE AGOSTO
Van Gaal hará otro fichaje
Luis F. Rojo Barcelona

Van Gaal asegura que está contento con su actual plantilla, pero realizará un nuevo fichaje antes de que se cierre el plazo de inscripción el próximo 31 de agosto. El técnico asume que con los jugadores que tiene podría afrontar la temporada, pero no con total garantía. Van Gaal sabe que hay unas posiciones en las que es necesario reforzarse. El primer agujero está en la banda izquierda. Necesita un lateral o un interior. Aunque la marcha de Sergi y Coco hacen pensar que la prioridad es un lateral, Van Gaal considera que con los actuales defensas que tiene podría improvisar laterales. Fernando Navarro, Puyol, De Boer, Reiziger, Motta y el propio Cocu pueden actuar en esa posición a pesar de que el único lateral izquierdo nato es el primero.

Más problemas tiene en la posición de interior. Para esta demarcación tiene a Cocu y Motta, pero el primero empieza a ser imprescindible como pivote junto a Xavi. Por su parte, Overmars es un extremo y tiene muchas dificultades defensivas. La llegada de un interior izquierdo o, en su defecto, un lateral con mucho recorrido se hace casi imprescindible.

La otra opción es la de un delantero. Van Gaal cuenta con numerosos jugadores que pueden actuar en punta, pero no tiene un auténtico goleador. Kluivert está jugando como el hombre más adelantado, pero en estos años y a pesar del gra